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ST. LUCIE COUNTY BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT
ST. LUCIE COUNTY, FLORIDA
September 28, 2005
REGULAR MEETING
MINUTES
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Richard Pancoast, Bob Bangert, Buddy
Emerson, Ron Harris, and Diane Andrews.
OTHERS PRESENT: Hank Flores, Development Review Planner III;
Heather Young, Assistant County Attorney, Linda Pendarvis, Planner; and
Veronica Torres, Senior Staff Assistant.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Mr. Pancoast led the Pledge of Allegiance.
Announcements:
No announcements.
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Public Hearing Robert and Gail Sheets
File No.: BA-05-021
Petition of Robert and Gail Sheets for a Variance from the Provisions of
Section 7.04.01(A), of the Land Development Code, to allow the
construction of a carport which would encroach a maximum of 10 feet into
the minimum front setback of 25 feet required in the RS-3 (Residential,
Single-Family – 3 du/acre) Zoning District for property located at 1301 West
First Street.
The Sheets would like to construct a carport on the front of their home,
which would encroach a maximum of 10 feet into the required front setback
of 25 feet. The proposed carport would replace a previously existing
carport located in another location on the property.
Staff has reviewed this petition and determined that it does not conform to
the standards of review as set forth in the Land Development Code and
may be in conflict with the Comprehensive Plan. Staff is, therefore,
recommending denial of the requested variance.
Mr. Harris asked if the board has ever granted a variance similar to this
before for a carport.
Hank Flores replied not that he could recall but they may have.
Public Comment
Mr. Robert Sheets stated he had an existing carport which was in
compliance. It was an aluminum structure and the hurricanes took away.
He is trying to build a carport and the only way he can do it with his existing
roof is to come out from the front of his house and make a drive through. It
would be more substantial and better looking for the neighborhood. The
problem is that his existing carport went 307 feet behind his house luckily it
didn’t hit anything else. He could put aluminum back up but it won’t be as
substantial and won’t look as good. All his neighbors in the surrounding
area are all for it and had no problem with it.
Mr. Harris asked if that was a single carport that was there previously.
Mr. Sheets replied that it was a double car. He wanted to add that he has
knee problems and is having therapy at this time. He just had knee
surgery. The existing carport that he had before was open more and had
more rain coming in. This carport would be closer to the house and he
would not have to walk on the wet concrete as much, it would be a lot safer
for him.
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Mr. Bangert asked if Mr. Sheets realized with this carport he would be just
as susceptible in the next hurricane. In high winds they go even faster than
mobile homes.
Mr. Sheets said he will put trusses, tie it down and put a lot more anchors
with the aluminum carport. In fact, he is going out to the house with the
trusses and has four columns across the end of it to hold it down. Yes it
could go but it is a lot more substantial than an aluminum carport.
Mr. Pancoast stated that with the building code at this point it should be
okay.
Hearing no further comments in favor or in opposition to the petition,
Chairman Pancoast closed the public portion of the meeting.
Public Comment Closed
Mrs. Andrews made motion.
After considering the testimony presented during the public hearing,
including staff comments, and the Standards of Review as set forth in
Section 10.01.02 of the St. Lucie County Land Development Code, hereby
move that the Board of Adjustment approve the Petition of Robert and Gail
Sheets for a Variance from the Provisions of Section 7.04.01(a), of the St.
Lucie County Land Development Code, to allow the construction of a
carport which would encroach a maximum of 10 feet into the minimum front
setback of 25 feet required in the RS-3 (Residential, Single-Family – 3
du/acre) Zoning District, because the new carport would be more
substantial and Mr. Sheets has a handicap and he would benefit from a
carport that is much closer to the house.
Mr. Harris seconded the motion.
Motion passed with a 4-1 vote, Mr. Bangert against.
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Public Hearting Jarry Lewis
BA-05-022
Petition of Jary Lewis for a Variance from the Provisions of Section
7.04.01(A), of the St. Lucie County Land Development Code to allow for the
continued use of a swimming pool screen enclosure which encroaches a
maximum of 1 foot into the minimum side setback of 6 feet required in the
PUD (Planned Unit Development – (Spyglass at The Reserve) Zoning
District.
The subject property is located at 8732 Bally Bunion Road. The variance
sought arises from the desire of the applicant to continue the use of a
swimming pool screen enclosure without having to relocate it at
considerable expense. Mr. Lewis had a screen enclosure constructed
around his swimming pool. When the pool contractor conducted a final
survey, it was determined that the screen enclosure encroached 7 inches
into the setback.
Staff has reviewed this petition and determined that it does not conform to
the standards of review as set forth in Section 10.01.02, St. Lucie County
Land Development Code. Staff is, therefore, recommending denial of the
requested variance.
Mrs. Andrews asked if the owner of Lot 46 which would be on the side of
the encroachment did that person respond. She did not know what the
address was.
Hank Flores stated the address of Mr. Lewis is 8732 and there was an
address of 8728 that was in favor of the variance. He was not sure if that is
next door or not.
Mrs. Andrews commented that it looked like they were jumping 4 numbers.
That is what she wanted to verify. If that is true, that neighbor has no
problem with it.
Mr. Pancoast commented that the screen over the pool got put up and it is
7 inches over the line.
Public Comment
Jary Lewis stated it was obviously not intentional. He didn’t think it was 7
inches. He does not have surveying equipment. He did measure the best
he could the closeness to the neighbor’s house and it comes to 11 feet and
9 inches measured to the steel cage. They obviously don’t have 6 feet
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twice it didn’t quite make 12 feet. This is the first pie shaped lot going
around the small curve there. Something didn’t get set exactly right with the
house. If you look at the site plan submitted before the house was built it
shows it is across that line, he did not know if that was a mitigating
circumstance or not. It was approved for building that way unfortunately
and neighbors on both sides approve.
Mr. Keller is at 8728 and he said he faxed it in saying he approved. Mr. Lai
on the other side asked Mr. Lewis to personally drop his letter at the post
office that serves this building Saturday morning because he was just down
for a couple of days and headed for Boston. Mr. Lai asked him if he would
get it to the board. Both recommended approval
Mr. Harris asked Mr. Lewis who verified the pool would fit before the
construction began? Who verified that the pool would fit within the setback
before the construction was done.
Mr. Lewis said it was done as part of building the house, part of the overall
development. He hadn’t moved from northern Virginia at the time this
happened. He could not answer his question.
Mr. Harris asked if the builder laid out the pool.
Mr. Lewis said the builder or his subcontractor, the pool builder.
Mr. Harris asked if Mr. Lewis has had a final survey to certify the actual
amount of encroachment.
Mr. Lewis replied that he believed so. He has a drawing that shows it is 5.4
feet. When he went to closing on the house.
Hank Flores said there was a letter in the packet from the pool company
saying, “Upon final survey Advantage Pool Builders discovered that the
pool deck had a Five. Four (5.4) side set back.
Hearing no further comments in favor or in opposition to the petition,
Chairman Pancoast closed the public portion of the meeting.
Public Comment Closed
Mr. Bangert made a motion.
After considering the testimony presented during the public hearing,
including staff comments, and the Standards of Review as set forth in
Section 10.01.02 of the St. Lucie County Land Development Code, hereby
move that the Board of Adjustment approve the Petition of Jary Lewis for a
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Variance from the Provisions of Section 7.04.01(a), of the St. Lucie County
Land Development Code to allow for the continued use of a swimming pool
and screen enclosure which encroach a maximum of 1 foot into the
minimum side setback of 6 feet required in the PUD (Planned Unit
Development – (Spyglass at the Reserve) Zoning District, because the
board has approved other similar cases with greater encroachment and the
close neighbors have no complaints.
Mrs. Andrews seconded the motion.
Motion passed unanimously.
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Public Hearing Julian Bryan and Associates, Inc.
BA-05-023
Julian Bryan and Associates, Inc. for a Variance from the Provisions of
Section 7.05.02(A) (9), of the St. Lucie County Land Development Code, to
allow the construction of a permanent dead-end street, which will have a
length of approximately 2,000 feet and exceed by 1,000 feet the maximum
length of 1,000 feet allowed for property located on the South side of West
Midway Road, approximately ¼ mile west of South 25th Street.
The applicant has proposed the development of a Planned Unit
Development, which would contain a Permanent Dead-End Street, with a
length of approximately 2,000 feet. The Land Development Code permits
the construction of Permanent Dead-End Streets, but limits the length of the
street to 1,000 feet. If the variance is approved, it would allow for the
proposed street to exceed by approximately 1,000 feet the maximum length
of 1,000 feet allowed.
The variance sought arises from conditions that are not unique and peculiar
to the land involved, but rather from the proposed design of the project.
The developer of the project may be able to meet the requirements of the
Land Development Code regulations by redesigning the proposed project.
This Board has, however, approved similar variances in the past with other
developments.
Staff has reviewed this petition and determined that it does not conform to
the standards of review as set forth in the Land Development Code. Staff,
therefore, recommends denial of the requested variance.
Chief Emerson asked how many units are in the proposed development.
Hank Flores replied there are 120.
Public Comment
Julian Bryan stated that there are two significant things that impact their
inability to provide a shorter cul de sac that would be within the 1000 foot
rule.
First is the vegetation that they are trying to save; they monitor it very
closely. The environmental preservation committee deliberation over an
ordinance they passed the last several months regarding the preservation
of uplands and upland set aside. They met on multiple occasions on the
property with Amy Mott in determining where is the best and most
appropriate location for tree and wildlife preservation. That really drove
their site plan. They could have shortened the cul de sac by placing the
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road across the canal at midpoint of the property east and west but that
would have split the preserve into two parcels separated by a roadway.
Staff was very much opposed to that.
Another significant issue is the number of crossings that the drainage
district would like to see occur over the canal because of the interruption of
the flow of the canal. If they had placed it on one location they could have
put it in east end or the west end but it still would have led to a cul de sac of
greater length than the code allows.
The last thing is their inability to access through this property to the south,
east and west into any other public street because either development is
completed and built out, or the property is platted. There is no platted street
that abuts them. To the east there is some undeveloped land but they have
approached those property owners; they were unwilling to sell and would
not entertain an offer. So they feel like they were boxed in.
Only about 60 of the 120 homes will be in this particular portion of cul de
sac. They recently spoke to the environmental department and agreed to
place an emergency access out to the west that would be at the south end
of western most preserve which would then in an emergency scenario
reduce the length of that cul de sac to about 1,500 feet. What that would
require is that they provide emergency access out onto Christensen and
gain an easement at a later date over that portion of Christensen because
to complicate matters a little bit Christensen has just submitted a petition to
the adjacent owners on the west side to make the road private. They have
indicated however that they would be willing to give them an easement over
it for purposes of emergency access. That would then give them three
ways out of the property.
Mr. Pancoast asked if the emergency exist that he was speaking about now
is it not the one they have on their survey at this point.
Mr. Bryan replied that is was not. The board has an access onto
Christensen just north of the canal and this would be perhaps 500 feet
south of the canal.
Mr. Pancoast asked if this would be a third potential exist.
Hearing no further comments in favor or in opposition to the petition,
Chairman Pancoast closed the public portion of the meeting.
Public Comment Closed
Mr. Harris made motion to approve.
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After considering the testimony presented during the public hearing,
including staff comments, and the Standards of review as set forth in
Section 10.01.02 of the St. Lucie County Land Development Code, I hereby
move that the Board Of Adjustment approve the Petition of JULIAN
BRYAN AND ASSOCIATES, INC. for A variance from the Provisions of
Section 7.05.02(A)(9), of the St. Lucie County Land Development Code, to
allow the construction of a permanent dead-end street, which will have a
length of approximately 2,000 feet and exceed by 1,000 feet the maximum
length of 1,000 feet allowed, because previous board action and developer
did work with county to preserve uplands that did dictate the layout of the
roadway.
Mrs. Andrews seconded the motion.
Motion passed with a 5-0 vote.
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Public Hearing Vito and Joan Fede
BA_05-025
Petition of Vito and Joan Fede for a Variance from the Provisions of
Section 7.04.01(A) 7.04.01(A), of the St. Lucie County Land Development
Code to permit the construction of a carport, which would encroach
approximately 2 feet into the minimum 7.5 foot side setback required in the
PUD (Planned Unit Development – Savanna Club) Zoning District for
property located at 3155 Columbrina Circle.
The Fedes would like to construct a carport on the side of their home, which
would encroach a maximum of 2 feet into the required side setback. The
need for the requested variance is created by the desire of the Fedes to
have extra room on the side of their home to accommodate Mr. Fede’s
wheelchair.
Staff has reviewed this petition and determined that it does not conform to
the standards of review as set forth in the Land Development Code and
may be in conflict with the Comprehensive Plan. Staff is, therefore,
recommending denial of the requested variance.
Mrs. Andrews asked if the board had approved any other variances in this
neighborhood.
Hank Flores replied a few years ago, perhaps 8 or 9 years ago they had a
couple in Savanna Club for carports.
Chief Emerson asked what kind of carport was it.
Hank Flores stated the applicant was present but he thought it would be
similar to others out there.
Mr. Harris asked if a survey was received with this package.
Hank Flores stated that he did not believe so.
Public Comment
Mrs. Joan Fede stated that recently they had to purchase a larger van for
her husband’s electric wheelchair. It cannot come up under the carport as it
is situated. They need 2 feet more on the side to put the overhang so they
can come up under the overhang so her husband can get out of the van
and up to their home. It will be all aluminum construction and the same
kind of construction as they had before, except it will be up to code.
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Savanna Club did not have any problem with it and their neighbors on
either side did not have any problem with it. Mrs. Fede commented that
she is just trying to give her husband the best quality of life.
Hearing no further comments in favor or in opposition to the petition,
Chairman Pancoast closed the public portion of the meeting.
Public Comment Closed
Ron Harris made a motion.
After considering the testimony presented during the public hearing,
including staff comments, and the Standards of Review as set forth in
Section 10.01.02 of the St. Lucie County Land Development Code, hereby
move that the Board of Adjustment approve the Petition of VITO AND
JOAN FEDE for a Variance from the Provisions of Section 7.04.01(A)
7.04.01(A), of the St. Lucie County Land Development Code to permit the
construction of a carport, which would encroach approximately 2 feet into
the minimum 7.5 foot side setback required in the PUD (Planned Unit
Development – Savanna Club) Zoning District, because they do have
community support and Mr. Fede does have a disability.
Chief Emerson seconded the motion.
Motion passed with a 5 – 0 vote.
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Public Hearing Raymond and Gloria Black
BA-05-026
Petition of Raymond and Gloria Black for a Variance from the Provisions
of Section 7.04.01(A) of the Land Development Code to allow a single-
family lot, which would lack a maximum of 6 feet of the minimum 30 feet
required for road frontage in the AR-1 (Agricultural, Residential – 1 du/acre)
Zoning District, and for a Variance from the Provisions of Section
7.04.01(A) of the Land Development Code to allow a single-family lot, which
would lack a maximum of 24 feet of the minimum 150 feet of lot width
required in the AR-1 (Agricultural, Residential – 1 du/acre) Zoning District
for property located at 4820 Christensen Road.
The Blacks would like to subdivide their 2.25 acre lot into two separate lots.
The subject property is 150 feet in width and has 150 feet of road frontage.
One lot would have road frontage of 24 feet and, therefore, have a deficit of
6 feet of the 30 feet required. The other lot is proposed to have a lot width
of 126 feet and, therefore, have a deficit of 24 feet of the 150 feet required.
All other lots requirements would be met.
Staff has reviewed this petition and determined that it does not conform to
the standards of review as set forth in the Land Development Code. Staff
is, therefore, recommending denial of the requested variances.
Mrs. Andrews asked what the cutout on south west corner was making the
cutout which would otherwise be a rectangular piece of property.
Hank Flores stated he believed it was a parcel that was cut out some years
ago.
Mr. Pancoast commented from the aerial it looks like a house with some
citrus trees on the parcel.
Mrs. Andrews commented that it must not be in conformance with the
zoning code.
Hank Flores stated that it is a non conforming lot of record.
Mr. Bangert asked if this is on same dead end road as the two other cases
the board had before.
Hank Flores replied no, it is on the other side. The other project was on the
south side of Midway, west Midway. This project is on the north side of
west Midway. Christensen is dead end to the north. There is an out road,
Divine Road but did not believe it was an actual right of way.
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Mr. Pancoast said a couple of them go out to the east on a dirt trail but was
not sure what that counts as.
Mr. Harris stated that was a county road. Divine Road is a substandard right
of way.
PUBLIC COMMENT
Mr. Pancoast asked Mr. Black if he wanted to divide into two single
separate properties.
Mr. Raymond Black stated the first part out at the road would be 1 acre and
he would have a little over 2 acres in the back. The reason he would like to
do so is that his kids are gone; he did not need the acreage anymore. It is
a hardship to maintain it, he suffers from emphysema. He can’t keep the
property the way it should look. He did have a buyer for the property and
he did have a contract on it depending on the decision of the board. He
would like to sell the property and bring up to standard. In the back he does
have some damage from the last year’s hurricanes and insurance didn’t
cover everything.
Hearing no further comments in favor or in opposition to the petition,
Chairman Pancoast closed the public portion of the meeting.
Public Comment Closed
Chief Emerson asked what the future land use designation was for that.
Hank Flores stated it is Residential Suburban, generally that allows the
maximum of 2 dwelling units per acre.
Chief Emerson stated it has a current AR zoning the plans for future land
use designation of RS. The plans for the future say that it could potentially
take more units than it currently has per acre.
Hank Flores replied possibly twice as much.
Chief Emerson stated his general opinion is that AR-1 zoning designation is
specifically given to protect agricultural properties and lower densities in a
given area that is why it is zoned that way. Through the County’s
Comprehensive Plan and the future land use element the county plans for
future growth in certain areas. In this case its future land use allows for
greater densities. He did not see any reason not to support his request.
Chief Emerson made motion to approve.
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After considering the testimony presented during the public hearing,
including staff comments, and the standards of review as set forth in
Section 10.01.02 of the St. Lucie County Land Development Code, hereby
move that the Board of Adjustment approve the petition of Raymond and
Gloria Black for a variance from the Provisions of Section 7.04.01(a) of the
St. Lucie County Land Development Code to allow a single-family lot, which
would lack a maximum of 6 feet of the minimum 30 feet required for road
frontage in the AR-1 (Agricultural, Residential – 1 du/acre) Zoning District,
and for a variance from the provisions of Section 7.04.01(a) of the St. Lucie
County Land Development Code to allow a single-family lot, which would
lack a maximum of 24 feet of the minimum 150 feet required in the AR-1
(Agricultural, Residential – 1 du/acre) Zoning District, because the County’
Comprehensive Plan does have a future land use element which allows for
greater density for the subject property and it is a reasonable request on
that basis.
Mr. Bangert seconded the motion.
Motion passed 5-0 in favor.
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Public Hearing Kenneth and Sandy
Carrier
BA-05-027
Petition of Kenneth and Sandy Carrier for a Variance from the Provisions
of Section 7.04.01(A), of the St. Lucie County Land Development Code to
permit reconstruction of a single-family home which proposes a lot
coverage by buildings of 3,032 square feet, thereby exceeding by 4.5
percent (392 square feet) the maximum 30 percent lot coverage by
buildings allowed in the RS-4 (Residential, Single-Family – 4 du/acre)
Zoning District for property located at 238 Bermuda Beach Drive.
The Carriers single -family home was damaged during the recent
hurricanes and they would like to reconstruct it larger than allowed. The
subject property is 8,800 square feet in size and the zoning allows
maximum lot coverage of 2,640 square feet (30 percent) by buildings. The
proposed home would have lot coverage by buildings of 3,032 square feet
or 34.5 percent, thereby exceeding by 4.5 p percent (392 square feet) the
maximum lot coverage permitted.
Staff has reviewed this petition and determined that it does not conform to
the standards of review as set forth in the Land Development Code and
may be in conflict with the Comprehensive Plan. Staff is, therefore,
recommending denial of the requested variance.
Hank Flores stated staff just wanted to note that this is one of several
variances in the same neighborhood.
Public Comment
Mr. Kenneth Carrier stated that they had substantial damage and they want
to reconstruct so that they may not have this hardship again.
Mr. Pancoast commented that the good news is that the building codes are
such now that next time he should be in a lot better shape. Unfortunately,
what was built 20 or 30 years ago they found a lot of things wrong. It will
get better.
Hearing no further comments in favor or in opposition to the petition,
Chairman Pancoast closed the public portion of the meeting.
Public Comment Closed
Mrs. Andrews made motion to approve
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After considering the testimony presented during the public hearing,
including staff comments, and the Standards of Review as set forth in
Section 10.01.02 of the St. Lucie County Land Development Code, hereby
move that the Board of Adjustment approve the Petition of Kenneth and
Sandy Carrier for a Variance from the Provisions of Section 7.04.01(A), of
the St. Lucie County Land Development Code to permit reconstruction of a
single-family home which proposes a lot coverage by buildings of 3,032
square feet, thereby exceeding by 4.5 percent (392 square feet) the
maximum 30 percent lot coverage by buildings allowed in the RS-4
(Residential, Single-Family – 4 du/acre) Zoning District, because this board
in recent months has approved two similar petitions where the variance
was even greater; one was 6.12 percent and 8.75 percent and both were on
the same street.
Mr. Bangert seconded the motion.
Motion passed 5 – 0 in favor.
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Public Hearing Harbor Federal Savings Bank
BA-05-029
Petition of Harbor Federal Savings Bank for a Variance from the
Provisions of Section 9.01.01(E) 0f the St. Lucie County Land Development
Code to allow the construction of a ground sign which will exceed the
maximum height of a sign allowed in the CN (Commercial, Neighborhood)
Zoning District for property located at 5100 Turnpike Feeder Road.
The Land Development Code restricts the height of signs to a maximum of
10 feet on properties with a residential Future Land Use classification. The
subject property had an existing 20 foot high sign that was destroyed during
last year’s hurricanes. Harbor Federal would like to replace the sign with a
new sign with a maximum height of 14 feet 3 inches in a new location.
The variance sought arises from conditions that are unique and peculiar to
the land involved, but do not constitute a hardship as defined in the Land
Development Code.
Staff has reviewed this petition and determined that it does not conform to
the standards of review as set forth in the Land Development Code and is
in conflict with the Comprehensive Plan. Staff, therefore, recommends
denial of the requested variance.
Mr. Harris asked if the board had anything like this before, in the last 10
years.
Hank Flores replied not in the last 9 years; there have been other sign type
variances, not similar to this. They are more for size of the sign versus
height of the sign. Generally they are for new signs versus replacing an
existing sign.
Mr. Bangert asked if there was any reason why they wanted a sign that is
50% bigger than allowed. A new sign ordinance was just completed and
signed in this county. Is the staff recommendation based on the old or new
ordinance?
Hank Flores commented that according to Linda Pendarvis the provisions in
the sign code for this type sign have not changed.
Public Comment
Gina Neilli stated they wanted to put up a newer and a nicer sign. In
December they submitted their new sign for permitting but because the
county is backlogged it took a while to find out it was not in compliance.
They wanted to move the sign to a new location; they did receive a minor
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adjustment for a minor site plan for that new location. At that time they
resubmitted to permitting and found out the sign was too big.
Their sign company spoke to the zoning department personnel four different
times and was told that a 20 foot sign was permitted here. Based on that
they fabricated the sign. Hence their predicament, the sign is already made
and fabricated; it is 14 feet, 3 inches. If anyone has been past the sight
they know there is a large frontage there. It is heavily wooded on either
side of them so they want to move the sign closer to the road so it is more
visibility for their tenant who is also attached to their building and for their
customers.
Chief Emerson asked if the entire thing they are looking at in their
production sketch is prefabricated. All of it or just the sign elements within
the structure?
Ms. Gina Neilli said sign is done.
Chief Emerson asked if it was just the sign elements and was it a one piece
assembly.
Ms. Gina Neilli replied that it was. The reader board is a separate
component. The frame is actually one piece but then as you can see you
have three separate components. The sign face, the reader board and then
the tenant sign face.
Mr. Pancoast asked if the problem with the sign was the potential future use
of the property if it changed to Residential Urban.
Hank Flores statedthe sign code is if you have a future land use
classification of residential it limits the height to 10 feet, but if it had a
commercial land use it is 20 feet.
Mr. Pancoast commented what is now commercial property if that area is
commercial that sign would be okay.
Hank Flores said that it still has a residential future land use.
Mr. Pancoast stated the likelihood that someone would want to build a
house on Kings Highway or Turnpike Feeder Road is pretty slim.
Hank Flores stated that is why it is zoned Commercial/Neighborhood so
lower intense commercial type use.
Ms Neilli wanted to state that Harbor Federal has been around a long time,
they own 16 properties in St. Lucie County. The properties are kept in very
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good shape and this sign looks better ascetically than their previous sign
which was a pylon sign. As we all know pylon signs did not survive in the
hurricanes, monument signs held up a lot better. It is a safer sign and it
and will be safer for the employees to have this size sign.
Public Comment Closed
Mr. Bangert made a motion to approve.
After considering the testimony presented during the public hearing,
including staff comments, and the Standards of Review as set forth in
Section 10.01.02 of the St. Lucie County Land Development Code, hereby
move that the Board of Adjustment approve the Petition of Harbor Federal
Savings Bank for a variance from the Provisions of Section 9.01.01(e) of
the St. Lucie County Land Development Code to allow the construction of a
ground sign which will exceed the maximum height of a sign allowed in the
CN (Commercial, Neighborhood) Zoning District, because in this whole
area it is mostly commercial and not residential in that neighborhood. It is
becoming more commercial all the time. He would much rather see this
kind of sign Harbor Federal is presenting here rather than the numerous
and uncounted 1 and 2 foot signs allowed all over the place on every
street corner we have in the county as they blow around and look terrible.
Mr. Harris seconded the motion.
Motion passed with 5-0 vote.
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Public Hearing Cherokee Park, Inc & Fellichio Family
BA-05-030
Petition of Cherokee Park, Inc. and the Fellichio family (Steven Ball,
Agent), for a Variance from the Provisions of Section 7.04.01(A), of the
Land Development Code, to allow the construction of a mid-rise
condominium, which will encroach approximately 40 feet into the side
setbacks of 64 feet required per the building spacing formula for property
located on the East side of South SR A-1-A on South Hutchinson Island,
directly north of Shuckers Restaurant and south of The Princess
condominium.
The applicant would like to replace a previously existing bed and breakfast
with a high-rise condominium consisting of 6 livable floors and 12 units.
The pre-existing structure has already been demolished after being heavily
damaged by the hurricanes of 2004. According to the documentation
submitted by the applicant, the proposed structure would be approximately
78 feet in height as determined by the regulations for building height in the
Land Development Code. Applying this figure in the building spacing
formula results in a setback requirement of 64 feet from the south and north
sides of the building to the property line.
The variance sought arises from conditions that may be unique, but do not
necessarily qualify as a hardship as defined in the Land Development
Code. The need for the requested variance is created by the desire of the
applicant to construct a mid-rise condominium on the site of a previously
existing 2 story bed and breakfast facility. The previous use of the property
could be reconstructed in the same location as long as the applicant met
current building codes regulations.
Staff has reviewed this petition and determined that it does not conform to
the standards of review as set forth in the Land Development Code and
may be in conflict with the Comprehensive Plan. Staff is, therefore,
recommending denial of the requested variance.
Mrs. Andrews stated at the request of Mr. Grande she went by and looked
at the property and the stakes where the building would be.
Public Comment
Ben Fillichio stated he wanted to thank the board for giving him the
opportunity of coming back before the board again. He was representing
his family who has owned and operated the Hutchinson Inn for the past 15
years. After the last meeting in July he immediately went back to the
architect to see what kind of changes they could make to address the
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board’s concerns as well as the concerns of their neighbors at the Princess.
He also held meetings with the residents of the Princess to get their
comments and input as well. His first reaction was to take the original
building that they presented at the last meeting shift the entire building
toward Shuckers that would give them additional space between their
property and the Princess. He realized that would be a band aid and would
not be a sufficient enough change. They decided to lower the building
down to 7 floors; by doing so it enabled them to shift the entire building 20
feet to the west.
This change addressed some of the concerns of the board members as
well as some of the Princess. His first reaction was to shift the property
toward Shuckers. Lower the building and move 20 feet to the west
concerns of board members. By shifting the building 20 feet to the west he
felt they had addressed Mrs. Andrews’s concern as far as the canyon
effect. The building will no longer be in line the Princess or with Shuckers it
will be offset and in front of the property.
By lowering the building and getting an additional foot from the property line
he feels that they have addressed the concern that Mr. Pancoast had about
the height of the building. Also, the Princess was concerned that they
would be blocking the ocean and river views. By moving it the 20 feet they
will no longer be blocking anything. As Mrs. Andrews said they hired an
engineer to go out and stake the footprint of the building so the residents of
the Princess could get on their balconies and look down and see that this
building will in no means impede or block any of their views.
He knew the 4 or 5 feet that they have picked up by moving the building is
irrelevant as far as the building formula but over the last 8 weeks when he
met with some of the people of the Princess there was a misinterpretation.
There is a concrete wall that separates their property with theirs and most
of the people thought that the concrete wall was the property line itself. In
essence there is 8 feet additional of the Princess’s property on their side of
the wall. Now with them shifting and lowering the building this new building
will be 32 feet from the concrete wall. Keep in mind there will be an
additional 140 feet from the concrete wall to the Princess itself giving them
175 feet of separation. It would be a little unrealistic to think that he is
going to be able to address everybody’s concerns and the Princess’
residents as well. He feels that his family has shown a lot of concern, they
have lowered the floor of the building, and they have lost 2 of their 14 units
which represents 15 % of their building. He was sure the representative of
the Princess will get up and say that all of these changes and modification
still does not alter the fact that they still do not meet the county formula.
That is why he feels this is truly a hardship that because of the shape of this
property this property cannot or will not ever address this formula. He does
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hope that his family has made the necessary efforts to address the issues
which concerned you in the last meeting and justifies your approval of the
requested variance.
Mrs. Andrews asked if Mr. Fillichio was saying that the proposed building is
now so much further west that it is west of the western most portion of the
Princess.
Mr. Fillichio replied yes.
Jane Cornett, stated she is the attorney representing the Princess
Condominium. As you can tell and as Mr. Fillichio mentioned there was a
prior public hearing on the same property. There was a much larger group
in attendance. There are many who would have liked to be in attendance
but for a large variety of reasons they simply could not attend.
In the packet she was sure was noted that more than 400 of the neighbors
at the Princess Condominium sent in letters indicating their opposition to
this variance. One of the things that many of them pointed out to you is that
the variance is still a very major variance. It is not a minor change that has
been requested, it is a very major one.
We have talked a lot both now and in the past about the uniqueness of this
property. It is unique because it is small, that is what is unique about it. It
is no smaller or different in configuration than it was when these folks
acquired this property 15 years ago. The same piece of land as they
bought at that time.
The codes haven’t changed. The codes are the same today as there were
at the time the property was acquired. This side setback ratio relative to
the building has always been in place. So it has always been reasonable for
people of the Princess to anticipate that any structure on this building would
be a two story structure. That is what can be constructed no mater how it is
configured on the property; whether it is a matter of replacing the bed and
breakfast which they have indicated they don’t wish to do. Not that they
can’t do; or if it is a matter of placing it in a different configuration.
One of the things that she noted in the application of Mr. Ball, the
representative of the property owner is that he has acknowledge on page 6,
paragraph 15 that they could build a narrow structure. His only justification
for not doing that is that he claims it would be an ugly structure. That is
strictly a matter of opinion and there are a lot of places where you will find
structures that are narrow; and can be constructed in an attractive fashion.
Her own building is on the St. Lucie River and it is a very narrow building.
She hopes it is not ugly, it has been there for 30 years and she thought it
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was a pretty attractive structure. The applicant has acknowledged that
there are other alternatives.
One of the things attorneys like herself is suppose to do is talk about the
law. She was sure everybody knows what the requirements of St. Lucie
Code are because the board has been sitting for many months hearing
these kinds of cases. One of the issues in the code has to do about the
question of what is a hardship.
She was going to do what attorneys do best and tell the board about a
case. The case of Maturo versus the City of Coral Gables and is found in
So. 2nd, 619, 455, which is the recorders that attorneys look at. This gives a
definition of a hardship. A hardship required for a variance will be found
only where the property is virtually unusable or incapable of yielding
reasonable return when used pursuant to zoning regulations and the
hardship peculiar to the property.
The law has said that a hardship that is something that arises when you
have no other reasonable use of the property. To try to make a
determination and to guide them as to whether or not there were other
reasonable uses she retained and architect and his name is, Jack Ahern.
Mr. Ahern is admitted in the State of Florida and in the State of California.
He is a member of AIA with is a licensing organization for architects and
she provided a copy of the letter for board members One of the questions
she asked Mr. Ahern was could you build something on this site to
accommodate condominiums units that would not be ugly?
Mr. Ahern made the following comments. A narrow building could be
constructed on this property that would not require a variance and would
accommodate anywhere between two (2) and twelve (12) condominium
units, depending on the size of each unit. The buildings would not
necessarily be ugly. There are a variety of architectural approaches that
can be used to make a narrow building aesthetically pleasing. Admittedly,
that is not what they want but the point is they have that as an option. They
cannot meet the legal standard to show what a hardship is. It just is not
there.
At the prior hearing Chief Emerson inquired if the Princess itself was in
compliance and they could not answer that. In Mr. Ahern’s letter states
even though the Princess was built prior to the date of the building height
requirement as it exists today. The Princess went up in 1983 that is what
they can tell from the plans, it does comply. In fact the setback for the
building is greater. It is not a matter of them saying we don’t meet the
requirements but you should. The Princess does in fact comply with those
requirements.
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Copies of the case was submitted to the county attorney and recording
secretary. The copies of the case that she cited that explains the legal
standard for determining that a hardship does exists and also a copy of Mr.
Ahern’s letter that indicates that there are other things that could be
constructed on this property; it might not be what the applicant desires to
build or as large but it is still a reasonable use of the property. A
reasonable use of this property exists and the folks at the Princess are
entitled to expect that those codes and requirements be upheld by the
board. They were always there it is not like the codes changed and the
property was subject to it they acquired it after. That is just not the
situation. They respectfully request that these major variances be denied.
Mr. Tony Fillichio stated fifteen years ago he bought the Hutchinson Inn and
it was called the Bates Motel when he bought it. It was a dump. Fifteen
years later it was called the jewel of the Island. The fact that it was said
that he could go back into the business, he would love to go back into that
business. He loved every day of it and every minute of it. He and his wife
and a great group of people worked there.
He did not get enough money from the insurance company to go back in
business. He would have been back in business and started all over again.
This is not his choice. His choice is to make sure a beautiful building is
placed on that property because he was very proud of it. It was a great
place to own and be part of it for the years that he was there.
He did not want to see this happen. This is not what he wanted. He waited
months before he made a decision of going into business. Financially he
could not go back in business because he could not afford it, to start all
over again and to work as hard as he did for the 15 years that he was there.
Everyone of the people who looked down on him every day knew what a
great place that it was. He was part of their entertainment all day long. His
place was their entertainment and you knew how well he kept it up. It was
in mint condition, it was one of the prettiest places on the island. The place
that they are going to build is also going to be one of the prettiest places on
the island because he is behind it. He wants to see something nice; he
would not sell it down.
He loved what he was doing, he misses it tremendously and he is not going
to give it up that quickly. He could have sold out and went on with his life
and forgot all about it. His son is taking it over because he cannot do it
anymore. He did not have the drive to do it anymore. He lost something
that he really misses.
Mr. Bangert said it mentions nothing about costal construction line. Is this
within the coastal construction line?
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Hank Flores stated Linda Pendarvis was the reviewer on the project and
said that it was, west of the 78 coastal construction line.
Mr. Grande stated that he was speaking as Chairman of the President’s
Council of Hutchinson Island. As you know the President’s Council is an
umbrella organization. Their membership is virtually all of the homeowners
associations and condominium associations on the island and quite a
number of the local businesses.
This past spring the President’s Council heard a presentation for this
particular project at two separate meetings. The project was approved by
their membership as a potential new neighbor unanimously. That quite
frankly included the vote of the Princess representative to their council.
This piece of property has the ocean to east; the owners to the south and
west continue to support this project strongly. To the south is the
Schuckers restaurant which is attached to a four story condominium. The
Princess is a 20 story building with approximately 200 units really
questioning a 7 story building of 12 units and there is more than 175 feet
between the two buildings.
He wanted to address a couple of the things that Ms. Cornett brought up.
They could build a two story project there and actually without any
approvals they could build three stories over parking, so the difference of
what they could build and what they are asking for is really not that great.
This property is unique but not so much because it’s small but because it is
narrow. Based on the size of the property they are actually proposing to
build now fewer units than allowed by their density.
While it is true that the Princess may comply with the current side setback
requirement keep in mind that this particular property and the Princess
property have 125 foot height limit. The Princess could not be rebuilt today
or they would be asking for 75 feet variance on their height. So what you
are looking at if you remember the original graphic it is actually the Princess
that would be overpowering next to this building; as opposed to this building
having any impact whatsoever on the Princess. This application brings us
the lowest possible density, the fewest possible trips impacting the roadway
out on Hutchinson Island and the most positive impact on the property
values out there. The Presidents’ Council strongly suggests approval for
the requested variance.
Mrs. Andrews asked if it is a three floor structure and multi-family it still
requires you to abide by the spacing formula. If she reads Section 7.04.00
purpose of this section is to ensure the minimum distance between any
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multi-family except to and three family structures, hotel, or motel two floors
or greater and any other building.
Hank Flores stated generally anything with more than four units or any
building with four units in it or more must follow the building spacing
formula.
Mr. Steve Bartelstone stated his practice has large land development
component. He is on the 6th floor; it looks directly on the proposed
Windward Grande project. He has walked the site and looked down on the
site from his balcony. This project will directly affect his unit, it will block his
view. The view is the primary reason he and his wife purchased a unit in
this building, on this side of the building.
He was not anti-development, he represents many developers. He
represents developers who are working on projects in Palm Beach, Florida,
in Nantucket, Rhode Island, in Connecticut so that is not something he
lightly do but he is just opposed to this development on this site. He
attended the last hearing and he listened with an open mind the proposal by
the developers. He has listened to the developers argument has reviewed
their plans but he has concluded the current proposal isn’t significantly
better than the last proposal.
It is inconsistent with the zoning regulations and the plan of development for
this area. The word to describe this proposal is unresponsive. The
developer did not come back with a significantly reduced request for a
variance as suggested by one member of the board. He is still requesting a
variance of approximately 40 feet or 63% of the side yard requirement. If
you look at the report that was filed by the engineer it is really not just one
variance that is being sought and he thinks in that respect that application
is misleading there is really four separate elements of the zoning
regulations that this request violate.
The developer did not consider townhouses, or low rise multiple units as
suggested by another member of the board. The developer did not
consider a different shape to the building which is more consistent with the
shape of the lot as suggested by one of the other owners of the Princess
condominium. It was suggested by the engineer that they went out and
hired. This project overburdens this small and narrow lot. The new
proposal doesn’t request the most minor variance to allow a reasonable use
of this property but the maximum variance he thinks he can get away with
to increase this profit. He listened intently at the last hearing to discussion
by members of this board about this proposal, they could not respond any
further because that portion of the hearing was held after the public portion
had closed. Frankly he listens with dismay to certain members of the board
that disregarded the law and supported the proposal.
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The supporters of the proposal did not come up with one factor recognized
by the courts for the granting of a variance in determining a hardship exists.
The fact that the developer is a nice guy they don’t dispute but it is
irrelevant. The fact that his business was destroyed by the hurricane is also
irrelevant. Whether the Princess could be built or not be built today is also
irrelevant. The Princess when it was built complied with all zoning
regulation. The fact that the businesses community would like to have
more customers on the island is also irrelevant. The fact that a real estate
agent testified that he believed that this could possibly affect their values is
also irrelevant. The claim that this property might otherwise be used for a
project that they like even less is irrelevant.
What is relevant is whether this request for a variance meets the
requirements of the zoning regulations and the decision of the Florida
courts. The answer to that question is a resounding no. The definition of
hardship is not to be found in Webster’s dictionary or an architectural book
as suggested by the application. It is to be found in the law as set forth in
the zoning regulations and the decision of the Florida courts. Those
decisions of which you have the leading case in front state that a variance
can only be granted if there is a hardship unique to the particular property
which is created with the zoning as applied to that property would prohibit
any reasonable use of the land. The hardship cannot be self created. The
hardship can not be just economic. By his own admissions there are other
uses that can be permitted on this land.
They have suggested at their own expense an alternative suggestion
compliant in all respects with zoning that permits reasonable use of this
land. It may not be the use that gets the developer the most money but not
one of them is assured they can use their property in a manner to get them
the most money. We are all subject to zoning and the various restrictions
that zoning implies. What the developer has essentially requested amounts
to this board rezoning his parcel. You have been entrusted to apply the law
consistent with the zoning regulations and decisions of the court. The
threat that if you reject this proposal you may not like the next one as well;
is the typical developer’s canard which he recites when his application
cannot stand scrutiny. Is it likely that given the value of this land as it sits
on a prime piece of development property worth in excess of four million
dollars can economically be developed for anything that is not a quality
project? That is the threat that was utilized by the developer in his
meetings with the residents of the Princess. They don’t buy into that threat
and neither should the board.
It appears that the real issue here is that the applicant and certain members
of the board don’t agree with the requirements that the legislative body has
imposed on development in this area through the adoption of spacing
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formulas. That is the province of the legislative body not the Board of
Adjustment. The Board of Adjustment does not have the power to change
this by your discretion by finding hardship where none exists.
What will happen if the board approves this variance? They will appeal,
everyone will spend a lot of money, the project will be delayed, the court will
overrule the board and the developer may miss the market. Is that in
anyone’s interest?
If the board is inclined to somehow vote for this variance he would like to
mention a couple of other issues you need to consider. We have no
quarantines that once this variance is granted this developer will complete
the project. The developer can flip this project tomorrow. Since the
variance is not personal to the developer once the variance is granted what
is their guarantee that a different developer with a different project won’t
precede? What authority does this board have to require this developer to
build this building, to build this particular building in the area where he is
setting forth he plans to do that in accordance with the site plan. What
authority does this board require that this particular building be built? His
point is
that once you grant the variance you have no control over what happens
and they are at risk.
Finally, the Florida courts have also stated that the adjacent owners, like
him have a right to rely upon the zoning that is in place and variance should
not be granted except in extreme circumstances. He has relied on this
current zoning in purchasing his unit as have others who have purchased
their units in the Princess.
This building will undoubtedly affect and his view, his enjoyment of the pool,
the pool deck, the spa and the other recreational areas and in additional
they presently have a right to build other structures on the undeveloped
portion of their land, next to this site which could also be adversely affected
by this project.
The value of their property as a result will negatively be affected. He
respectfully asks the board to do its duty, follow the report of its
professional, find this use inconsistent with the development code and the
comprehensive plan, find no hardship, keep their trust, enforce the laws
required by the Florida courts and reject this application.
Gary Hartson stated in the packet there is a letter that was sent by Joe
Long. Joe Long is the president of the Island Dunes Oceanside I
Condominium in his last paragraph he states; again he is on the Board of
Directors and he never met the gentlemen that was speaking for the
Presidents’ Council and he also reiterates that his vote or opinion on this
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project was not sought and the president of the council does not speak for
them.
He did not know how many of the other condominium associations fall into
this situation but he knew that he and his neighbors they don’t agree with it
so he was sure that there would be other condominium complexes.
Contrary to the other two speakers for the Princess he was not a lawyer
and he is not a builder. He is permanent resident of the Princess
Condominium in Jensen Beach, Florida. He is also on the Board of
Directors because he is a concerned resident of this area. What he likes
about Jensen Beach and what he likes about this panel is what you have
done over the past 20 years with your interpretation of the laws, the
regulations, and the building codes that leads to the structures on lands
such as they are discussing now. He is a laymen in these situations but he
feels comfortable because even in the process of this morning he watched
the board look at the regulation on the books, look at the zoning and taken
it down to a minute idea of 6 inches. To this situation it is minor but that is
how you define it. He was happy that the board does that because that tells
him that the regulations that have been in place in this county for the past
20 years will not lead us into some of the mistakes that have been made in
other areas of Florida considering building such as this that they were
discussing today. As a member of the Board of Directors for the Princess
Condominium Association he wanted to make it crystal clear to this board
their stance which is the same stance that he takes as a permanent
resident of the Princess Condominium in Jensen Beach, Florida that please
just apply the rules and uphold the laws and the building codes that are
currently on the books, no more, no less.
Mark Schenburg commented that the letter from the architect that has
looked at the site and claims that you can build between two and twelve
condominium units. It is clearly a blanket statement from someone who
could not have looked at this site great depth. They have looked at it for 1
year now and tried many different configurations and short of going with a
penciled in 25 or 30 foot wide building the full 125 feet height you are not
going to get more than a couple of units with any kind of function. Even
then you are looking at a function of units that are just row houses. They
would go much further east than they have now thereby blocking a lot
more views than what are being claimed now and which he still didn’t
understand the angles and the sun studies he did not see how views are be
blocked like they are being claimed. He wanted to point out these are not
threats as has been pointed out it is more of a way of showing what this
developer is looking to do the best possible building on this site. They
could go in a different configuration that would be detrimental to the site.
This developer has been refreshing to work with and in his perspective this
is someone from the beginning wanted the highest quality building as
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opposed to someone who is just trying to get the maximum profit out of it. It
has been real refreshing for him to be working with this particular developer.
Let us hope that this beautiful building does get built.
Public Comment Closed
Chief Emerson asked Heather Young what responsibility does this board
with regards to interpretations of Florida court case law when making
variance decisions.
Heather Young stated that the board was bound by Florida law. The case
that the attorney for the Princess Condominium is relevant in describing
what a variance is under Florida law. The facts might be a little bit different
if you read the case history on it, it talks about regular lots versus the shape
of this lot but it is a valid description of what the courts consider what a
hardship to be under Florida law. She felt that they had talked about
hardship issues in past cases not necessarily today but previous meetings
and petitions that the board has had. It is not necessarily the economic
hardship almost anything that someone does one way versus another way
is going to have an economic impact so you are looking at the reasonable
use of property and that is one of the standards that you see in the Land
Development Code it talks about whether you reasonably use the property
is permitted or whether a hardship is exist. You have all been those
standards many time, they are sent out in your package and that is what
staff looks at. It is not really your place to interpret or disagree with Florida
law but Florida law is relevant obviously in making your decision.
Mrs. Andrews stated as she has said earlier she did go by the site and also
looked at the web site and must say the building itself is. It does not belong
on this site. She look at the 175 feet between the proposed building and
the Princess and she saw that it was approximately 50 feet more than the
distance between two twelve story buildings that are currently going up on
North Hutchinson Island then she figured that is not really relevant because
that is the Princess’ setback. Most of that 175 feet is on the Princess
property.
The first meeting she was concerned about establishing precedent so she
wanted to look at other properties that might claim a precedence if this
variance was approved. She was not sure what the status is on South
Hutchinson but she is more familiar with north Hutchinson Island. She had
identified three vacant lots in the 125 foot zone that likely would and could
claim precedent if this variance was granted. Unlike the Hutchinson Inn
parcel they are rectangular in shape but they are narrow 200 feet or less. If
I were an owner of any of these parcels she would be watching the out
come of this hearing with bated breath. A favorable outcome would
immediately at least double of the value of her property but more
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importantly she or her agent would be knocking at Growth Management’s
door with architect’s plans in hand in the very near future and would be
demanding equal treatment and there goes spacing formula. She to the
rest of the is which also 3 floor condo and not go on spacing formula and
courts and convinced cannot approve
Chief Emerson - Heather is a variance is granted does it set a precedent it
is appropriate to look at something different is not automatically under a
PUD every one exactly the same that this somewhat rare standard but it is
not an automatic guarantee it is not automatic and you need to apply the
facts in that case.
Mrs. Andrews made motion to deny.
AFTER CONSIDERING THE TESTIMONY PRESENTED DURING THE
PUBLIC HEARING, INCLUDING STAFF COMMENTS, AND THE
STANDARDS OF REVIEW AS SET FORTH IN SECTION 10.01.00 OF
THE ST. LUCIE COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, I HEREBY
MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT DENY THE PETITION OF
CHEROKEE PARK, INC. AND THE FELLICHIO FAMILY (STEVEN BALL,
AGENT), FOR A VARIANCE FROM THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION
7.04.01(A), OF THE ST. LUCIE COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE,
TO ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF A MID-RISE CONDOMINIUM,
WHICH WILL ENCROACH APPROXIMATELY 40 FEET INTO THE SIDE
SETBACKS OF 64 FEET REQUIRED PER THE BUILDING SPACING
FORMULA, BECAUSE....
Because a variance of this type has never been before and we are a barrier
island and would like to continue and the case law
Heather not a hardship
Mr. Harris seconded the motion
Mr. Pancoast said the staff works in black and white and the board can
bend the rules and you have seen earlier this morning. They usually try to
help people out. The setback is way too much if 20 feet but 40 feet plus is
beyond him. Many other people over the years and the desire of the people
here they want to maintain the quality and sometimes they disagree and
that is gone and what they have left they have to save smarter people than
him has gotten them where they are today he loved the Inn when it was
there he is saddened by the loss but at this point looking
Chief he did not believe there is a grey are to the black and white
surrounding no grey they don’t bend the rules it is how they interpret the
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rules. He does not think they stray into grey area would go straight to the
courts that is their counsel job. He is only one vote the site conditions and
constitute impair their neighbors not a canyon effect and he has made
some concessions.
Pancoast he agrees most of this case they are so close that he can’t get
passed.
Harris said the vote is pretty overwhelming
Agenda Item #9
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE REGULAR BOARD OF
ADJUSTMENT MEETING OF August 24, 2005.
Mrs. Andrews made motion to approve minutes.
August 24, 2005 approved unanimously.