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ST. LUCIE COUNTY, FLORIDA
Regular Meeting
May 21, 2021 Convened: 7:34 AM
Adjourned: 10:00 AM
1.CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 7:34 AM by Mr. Hensley. He read the Mission
Statement at the bottom of the agenda.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Carl Hensley, Chair
John Culverhouse, Vice Chair
Harvey Alligood
Jerry Buechler
Jeff Emmeluth
Gwen Morris
Barry Mucklow
Richard Pancoast
Steven Reuther
Jake Sanders
Ed Lounds
Robert Lynch
Hector Rodriguez
Douglas Bynoe
Mark Gotz
MEMBERS ABSENT:
OTHERS PRESENT:
Jennifer Hill Kara DePasquale Roger Jacobsen
Gino Butto Patrick Dayan Don West
Michelle Lanchez Leslie Olson Dan Allison
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Howard Tipton Amy Griffin Doug Baber
Kara DePasquale John Frank John Tikanich
2.PUBLIC COMMENT
No member of the public spoke.
3.APPROVAL OF APRIL 16th MINUTES
After a motion was made by Mr. Lounds and seconded by Mr. Rodriguez, the minutes
were unanimously approved.
4.OLD BUSINESS
Ms. Hill reminded the Committee that the priority of the meeting was to make a
recommendation, if that was their wish, to the Board of County Commissioners.
Because of the timing of the meetings, this would be the time it should be done.
INMATE MEDICAL
Mr. Baber, Human Resources Director, updated the Committee on the new inmate
medical vendor at the Jail and the amount spent this year, before he answered
questions. Mr. Gotz started discussion on the expenses, population, and programs. Mr.
Mucklow asked about the budget threshold. Mr. Baber reported on the task force and
objectives. Ms. Hill added information. Ms. Morris started dialog on length of stay in
Jail. Mr. Lounds started conversation on the current budget amount. Reserves were
discussed after Mr. Reuther’s question. Mr. Gotz asked about Jail population, a
performance review, funding, and staff. The new provider started March 30th. It will
take time for them to learn and correct issues. Mr. Baber gave some illustrations of
improvements.
DRAINAGE FUNDING & CHALLENGES
Mr. Dayan, Public Works Assistant Director, gave a summary of the history of the
stormwater funding and request for 2022. Homeowners are always surprised at the
cycle time to clean the 1,000 miles of swales. Mr. Gotz started discussion on state
funding. Capital verses operational costs, millage rates, catching up on delayed projects,
Harmony Heights project, sales tax projects, and the American Rescue Plan were
discussed.
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ROADS UPDATE
John Frank, Assistant Road and Bridge Manager, offered to answer questions. They get
approximately $600,000 per year plus sales tax money for repaving. Ms. Hill responded
to Mr. Alligood’s questions to start discussion regarding millage rates and funding.
Mr. Mucklow asked if there had been improvement in the cycle time. Mr. Frank
explained the procedure. Optimal would be 15 years. We were at 75 and now closer to
32‐33 years. That means the road would still have to be torn up and replaced. Focusing
resources where they have the most benefit and preventing future higher costs, is the
intended strategy.
Mr. Gotz asked if resurfacing was done by staff or contracted out. All resurfacing is
contracted. Orange Avenue project, catching up, pot holes, bridges, size of staff, and
percent of the budget to outside contractors were topics of discussion.
Ms. Olson, Planning & Development Services Director, gave information on a $150,000
grant that her department received to plan for growth.
5.NEW BUSINESS
Ms. Hill explained that the information in the Suggestion handout attached was sent by
members and divided by category. She also passed out the attached Draft Resolution to
the Committee.
Mr. Hensley started the discussion regarding their recommendation. The first topic was
infrastructure. Reserves, CARES Act funding, debt, Strategic Plan, maintenance funding,
and wording for the recommendation were questioned.
Mr. Alligood summarized the discussion and talked about priorities. Mr. Pancoast, Mr.
Gotz, and Mr. Lounds gave their opinions. Mr. Alligood read and explained the revised
wording. After a motion and second the first section was approved.
Ms. Hill explained the options for the second section, Inmate Medical. Wording was
discussed. Mr. Lounds started conversation on Jail pods. Mr. Hensley asked about the
services of the new provider for the Jail medical services. Jail population, the judicial
system, and medications were discussed. After discussion and revisions, each part of the
section was approved or removed.
The third section, regarding overtime, was discussed. Positioning of staff during COVID
and budgets for staff were part of the conversation. Mr. Tipton informed the Committee
of some positions they are unable to fill. History of staffing levels were given. After a
motion by Mr. Gotz, a second by Mr. Reuther, and brief comments, the motion to
approve the third section was defeated 6 to 8.
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Mr. Gotz suggested they recommend the millage rate be lowered 1 mill because of
Federal money and new construction. After discussion on sustainability, CARES funding,
revenue and sources, costs, services, catching up, and getting ahead of population
growth, the motion was defeated 2 to 11.
6. OTHER ISSUES
Mr. Hensley asked the members to hold any other issues for the June meeting.
7. ADJOURNMENT
Mr. Hensley thanked the Committee and staff.
Mr. Lounds made a motion that the attached approved recommendation be sent
to the Board of County Commissioners. His motion was unanimously approved.
Mr. Hensley adjourned the meeting at 10:00 AM.
Respectfully submitted by: Brenda Marlin
The next CBC meeting is scheduled for Friday, August 20, 2021, at 7:30 AM, at
the Fenn Center.