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From: Pierrette Guenette <memerepete@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 4:31 PM
To: Angela Huff
Subject: 331 Tropical Isles construction
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August 22, 2019,
Good afternoon,Angela,
In response to your e-mail dated August 6, 2019. The permits were for a cement slab, carport and garage ( shed ). `
Tropical Isles Board members of 2017 came to our house to inspect what we were planning to build before the cement jQ
slab was approved and poured. A plan for the construction was provided to the 20.1-7=Boaii&member-sran-d was
,una_- Dim �usLy-tsig.ae�a.nd-appravedbby;the 2"i�fi7"I�olr"dWe—rnbers. In order to be approved for a building permit we were
required to provide written permission from Tropical Isles Park. Your office should have a copy of this signed approval
along with a sketch of the proposed construction which was also provided to Tropical Isles Board members of 2017.
The cement slab was poured on March 26, 2018 by Carlos, a Tropical Isles maintenance worker after receiving a permit
from St -Lucie County ( permit # 1801- 0407 ). The cement slab was inspected and approved in April/18 by St -Lucie
County Building Department. From the time the cement was poured to the time the construction on the carport and
shed began in 2019 there was never a complaint from the Tropical Isles Board as to the size or measurements of the
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Architectural Engineer. efore being issued a building permit. Multiple inspections were done on the construction
process and every timethere was an inspection, the inspector asked to see the Architect plans and therefore the posts 1
and beams were . - d and approved accordin bo the A - , M— a ba# ioi�;"A i' la +'rF '► ed t�is
# a -- atca st efure�ap 'a pt < asts -an� exe - tt p4rre`. Our carport posts are 1 foot from
the .property line and our shed is 12 feet from the neighbours house and 2 fe"et from the property line and that was all
on the.sketch given and approved by the Tropical Isles Park.
* Concerning.the'crosed breezeway and the door at the back of the breezeway. -We temporarily closed -off the
breezeway with a door to lock the shed because we -are away for 6 months. There will be..a 4 feet breezeway which will
follow the Architect plan.
* The.breezeway will be 4 feet wide: The sketch for the'shed (garage) and carport were provided to the 2017 Tropical
Isles Board members and signed and approved by those members and they never asked for the dimensions of tbe.shed
'(garage) or carport or the building materials. Those- members, were more concerned that we didn't go out of our ,
p-roperty•line with the cement extension. The cement extension is 6 feet wide on the neighbour's -side and measures 17
.feet wide in line with the back of our house. We did not'alter the cement size .from the time of the pouring back in
March, 2018 : Contrary to the accusations from -the 2018-19 Tropical Isles Board members we did not alter or expand
our cement. Towards March,2019, as per the Architect plans, We had to. -cut our existing cement slab into six (6) -24" X
24 " square holes and each 24" deep to put rebars, in,and pour cement over them for more carport postxeinfgrcement.
-This cement pouring must have confused the 2018-19 Board members into thinking that wehad altered the size of our
cement slab.
* We asked the Architect for a lettt�- modify the plans for the splices in the c rt area. A letter will be provided.
, t,i Upica Isi, mfn m•urri req"utre setb c feet he ara-s y-g m . Tropical Isles never
1 ✓ told us of this setback when they verified and approved our construction plan back in 2017 nor did we :see this rule in
their Rules and Regulations or their Prospectus. Did Tropical Isles provide your office with a copy of this setback and if
so can you e-mail us a copy please? LA I)
* We feel that we are unfairly caught between arguments involving decisions made by the 2017 Tropical Isles Board
members and the objections from the 2018-19 Board members as to the approval of our construction. If the present
Board feel that a bad decision was made at that time, they shouldn't have us pay for it. The Park should have clear a
precise Rules and Regulations for new construction and make them publicly available especially when Board members _
can change every year.
As to the St -Lucie Building Department, they dem ded Architect plans before giving us a building permit. We hired
an Architect and those plans were approved by the B 'Iding Dept. The construction process was inspected and QU
approved by your Building Dept. inspectors as the co truction work carried on. Those inspections were done and .
followed diligently according to Architect plans. No that 90% of tfe construction work -is done, both Tropical Isles and
,the St- Lucie Building Department is accusing us of rongdoing and are asking us to pay the cost of modification to our
construction. This is unjust and unfair.. :-
Thank You
Pierrette Gue nette and Lionel Guenette l
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application or the construction documents do not conform to the requirements of pertinent
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applications for the construction of, or addition or renovation to, any school or educational
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PLANNING
DEVELOPMENT
August 6, 2019
ST. LUCIE COUNTY
BOARD OF COUNTY
Angela,
CONMSSIONERS
With regards to 331 Tropical Isles Circle. The following issues must be corrected
CHRIS DZADOVSKY
with revisions to plans or engineers approval to be compliant with FBC.
CHAIRMAN
1) A revision to the plans for the location of the posts & beam for carport. Post & beams
DISTRICT 1
are placed further out from original plans.
2) A revision for closing in breezeway and added door in the back where a 4" breezeway
ANTHONY BONNA
should be.
VICE-CHAIRMAN
3) A revision that shows accurate dimensions of breezeway, garage, and Slab extension.
DISTRICT 2
4) Engineer's letter or revision that provide details for rafter splices in carport area.
LINDA BARTZ
DISTRICT 3
Respectfully,
FRANNIE HUTCHINSON
DISTRICT 4
David Johnson
CATHY TOWNSEND
Chief Building Inspector
DISTRICT 5
Planning & Development Services
Building & Code Regulation
772-462-1865
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ela Huff �!
To: Pierrette Guenette
Subject: Permit 1902-0441
Good afternoon Mr. Guenette,
Please accept this response to your e-mail dated July 22, 2019 regarding the permit for your carport and garage.
I have researched.this matter and have found the following answers:
* Do they have the right to object to the construction when it is almost finished?
* Yes, the co-op can object to the construction.
*Does the Park overrule the building permits from the County?
*No, however, the county does not enforce deed restrictions.
The Building has also researched this permit and has found the following issues must be corrected with revisions to the
plans or engineer's approval to be compliant with the Florida Building Code:
*A revision to the plans for the location of the posts and beam for the carport. The post and beams are placed further
out than shown on the original plans.
*A revision for closing in the breezeway and added door in the back where a 4" breezeway should be.
*A revision that shows accurate dimensions of breezeway, garage and slab extension.
*An engineer's letter or revision that provide details for rafter splices in carport area.
The Zoning department will require a revised plot plan as part of the revision showing all existing and proposed
structures. It has been determined the side setback for Tropical Isles must meet a minimum required setback of 15ft
structure to structure.
Please show the next structure on the revised plot plan.
If I can be of any further assistance please do not hesitate to contact me.
Thank you,
Ange [a Huff
Zoning Technician
Building and Code Regulation
(772) 462-2134
huffa@stlucieco.org
St. Lucie County Building and Code Division Is committed to great service and your feedback /s important to us.
Please tell me how we're doing.
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Angela Huff
From: Pierrette Guenette <memerepete@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 2:08 PM
To: Angela Huff
Subject: Fwd: Building Permits for 331 Tropical Isles Fort Pierce Email contact from St. Lucie
County, FL
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Begin forwarded message:
From: Pierrette Guenette <memerepete@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Building Permits for 331 Tropical Isles Fort Pierce Email contact from St.
Lucie County, FL
Date: July 23, 2019 at 1:53:44 PM EDT
To: Angela Huff <huffa@stlucieco.org>
Good afternoon Angela,
Tropical Isles Park through their lawyer, John Carrigan had us go through a mediation telephone
conference on July 17, 2019. The letter that I am e-mailing you are statements that the lawyer
made -at the conference and that I requested he send those to us to show to the St -Lucie Building
Department.
As I mentioned in my e-mail to you yesterday, we covered the whole shed with tarpon to protect
it from the elements while we were away and covered the breezeway between the house and the
shed since we have our stuff in the shed and the shed door hasn't been installed.
Sincerely'
Pierrette Guenette and Lionel Guenette
On Jul 23, 2019, at 9:12 AM, Angela Huff <huffastlucieco.org> wrote:
Good morning Mr. Guenette,
Thank you for contacting me. I will ask Code Enforcement to go to your property and
inspect to make sure the structures are complying with the minimum required
setbacks. Meanwhile please e-mail me the copy of the lawyer's letter.
I will be in contact with you soon.
Thank you,
Ange(a .Cuff
Zoning Technician
Building and Code Regulation
(772) 462-2134
huffa@stlucieco.org
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Flom was your service? Please contact, Melissa Brubaker, Supervisor,
at brubakerm@stlucieco.ora to submit your suggestions, comments and feedback.
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Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 4:00 PM
To: Angela Huff <huffa@stlucieco.org>
Subject: Building Permits for 331 Tropical Isles Fort Pierce Email contact from St. Lucie
County, FL
Message submitted from the <St. Lucie County, FL> website.
Site Visitor Name: Lionel Guenette
Site Visitor Email: memerepete@hotmail.com
Cement slab permit - 1801-0407
Carport and garage (shed )permit - 1902-0441
Tropical Isles mobile home park had given us a signed approval for our new
construction which we provided to the County Building Department to receive a
building permit. Since we are snowbirds and are away from Florida for 6 months
we covered the construction with tarpon until our return. Our building permit is
still ongoing and the work is 90 % complete. Although building inspections have
been done with measurements on the permits as proof of the true size of the shed
and carport, we received a letter from the Park's lawyer accusing us of building
the cement slab, carport and shed larger than requested and the letter also states
that the Park wants us to demolish the whole thing. They want us to go back to an
aluminium carport and to return it to the original size. We checked the Rules and
Regulations of the Park and there is no size specification for sheds or carport or
construction materials preferences. Do they have the right to object to the
construction when it is almost finished? Does the Park overrule the building
permits from the County? We need some help. Can your Department do
something about this problem or give us advice on what to do about it. If you
need more information or see a copy of the lawyer's letter,please e-mail me.
Sincerely,
Lionel Guenette
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communications will be subject to public disclosure unless an exemption applies to the communication. If you received
this email in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete all materials from all computers.
Please Note: Florida has very broad public records laws. Most written communications to or from County officials
regarding County business are p
ublic records available to the public and media upon request. It is the policy of St. Lucie
County that all County records shall be open for personal inspection, examination and /
or copying. Your e-mail communications will be subject to public disclosure unless an
exemption applies to the communication. If you received this email in error, please notify
the sender by reply e-mail and delete all materials from all computers.
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available to the public and media upon request. It is the policy of St. Lucie County that all County records shall be open for personal inspection, examination and /
or copying. Your e-mail communications will be subject to public disclosure unless an exemption applies to the communication. If you received this email in error,
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ATTORNEYS AT LAW
ROYAL PALM FINANCIAL CENTER TRANSOCEAN BUILDING
SUITE 101 SUITE 309
DEBORAH L. ROSS* 789 SW FEDERAL HIGHWAY 1701 HIGHWAYAIA JACOB E. ENSOR*
DAVID B. EARLEt STUART, FLORIDA 34994 VERO BEACH, FLORIDA 32963 JOHN P. CARRIGAN*
ELIZABETH P. BONAN* SAMANTHA L. SIMPSON
(772) 287-1745 (772) 563-9555
t CERTIFIED CIRCUIT CIVIL MEDfATOR BOARD CERTIFIED IN CONDOMINIUM*
& PLANNED DEVELOPMENT LAW
** Settlement Communication **
July 18, 2019
Via Email (memerepete@iotmail com)
and U.S. Mail
Lionel and Pierette Guenette
149 William St. Apt# 5
Sturgeon Fails, Ontario
Canada, P2B 3N8
Re: Tropical Isles Co -Op, Inc./Guenette
Property Address: 331 Tropical Isles Cir.
DBPR Arbitration Case No. 2019=02-0721
Dear Mr. and Ms. Guenette:
As you know, our firm serves as counsel for Tropical Isles Co -Op, Inc. (the "Cooperative"), and
the purpose of this letter is to respond to your email dated July 17, 2019 inquiring "what you
want us to do to the work that is already done and approved by the County". I interpret your
email as an offer to comprise, and therefore will respond in kind. The Cooperative requests that
you modify the improvements to the dwelling in accordance with the plans and description
provided to the Cooperative on the Exterior Change to Home Approval Request dated December
8, 2017. This includes, but is not limited to:
1. Returning the carport to its original size and construction, including an aluminum roof
and removal of the structural posts along -the property boundary line used to expand the
carport.
2. Not installing the proposed new garage door on the she
3. Returning the existing shed to its original size and construction as specified in your
original plans.
4. Ensuring the items identified in your plans as the "new concrete" and "new shed" are
constructed are in accordance with the measurements provided on the schematics
attached to the approved Exterior Change to Home Approval Request dated December 8,
2017.
MAILING ADDRESS: POST OFFICE BOX 2401 • STUART, FLORIDA 3499S
FACSIMILE (772) 287-8045 • WWW.REBLAWPA.COM
Lionel and Pierrette Guenette
July 18, 2019
Page 2 of 2
The Cooperative further requests that any modifications or new building permits from St. Lucie
County be provided to the Board of Directors prior to the start of construction, so that the
Cooperative can confirm your plans are in accordance with the approved Exterior Change to
Home Approval Request dated December 8, 2017.
In addition, the Cooperative is seeking reimbursement of its attorney's fees and costs incurred to
date, which will can provide to you if we reach an agreement on resolving the carport and shed
issues identified above.
Should you have any additional questions or concerns, please let me know.
NOTICE: This correspondence constitutes an offer to compromise subject to FRE 408 and
Fla. Stat. 90.408.
Regards,
Esq.
cc: Board of Directors
CONSENT IN LIEU -OF MEETING OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS
` OF
TROPICAL.ISLES CO-OP, INC.
Inc., a
The undersigned, constituting all of the Directors of Tropical Isles Co-option set
Florida not -for -profit corporation, declare that the action expressed in the Res t date of the
forth
below.is takenby all .of the Directors of the Association as of the lates_ - . - ,
Directors' signatures.
rovesld sapproves the following
RESOLVED, that the Board hereb app ..
described addition or alteration to the M ile Home and/or Lot submitted Y y
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RESOLVED FURTHER, this Consent Resolution may be executed in one or
more counter
parts, arts, and including by facsimile or electronic transmission, s' each o which
shall be deemed an -original- and all of which together shall be c
same Resolution.
Director's. Signature:
Printed Name:._
Date:
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CONSENT IN LIEU•OF MEETING OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS
OF
TROPICAL ISLES CO-OP, INC.
The undersigned, constituting all of the Directors of Tropical Isles Co-op, Inc., a
-Florida not -for -profit corporation,. declare that the action expressed in the Resolution set
forth below.is takbn by all .of the Directors of the Association as of the latest date of the
Directors' signatures. ,
RESOLVED, that the Board. hereby -approvesldishpproves the , following
described aadltiori or alteratign td•the Mobt Home aVor Lot, submitted by
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insert(name of Reside ) � '
RESOLVED FURTHER, this Consent Resolution may be executed In one or
more counterparts, and including .by facsimile or' electronic transmission, each of which
shall be deemed an "original and all of which together shall be considered one in the":
same Resolution.
Director's. Signature:
-Printed Name:
Date:
331 Tropical Isles construction
Pierrette Guenette
Thu 2019-08-22 4:30 PM
To: huffa@stlucieco.org <huffa@stlucieco.org>
Sent from my iPad
August 22, 2019,
Good afternoon Angela,
In response to your e-mail dated August 6, 2019. The permits were for a cement slab, carport
and garage ( shed ). Tropical Isles Board members of 2017 came to our house to inspect what
we were planning to build before the cement slab was approved and poured. A plan for the
construction was provided to the 2017 Board members and was unanimously signed and
approved by the 2017 Board members. In order to be approved for a building permit we were
required to provide written permission from Tropical Isles Park. Your office should have a copy
of this signed approval along with a sketch of the proposed construction which was also
provided to Tropical Isles Board members of 2017.
The cement slab was poured on March 26, 2018 by Carlos, a Tropical Isles maintenance worker
after receiving a permit from St -Lucie County ( permit # 1801- 0407 ). The cement slab was
inspected and approved in April/18 by St -Lucie County Building Department. From the time
the cement was poured to the time the construction on the carport and shed began in 2019
there was never a complaint from the Tropical Isles Board as to the size or measurements of
the cement slab.
* As to the location of the posts and beams for the carport, they are according to the building
plans. We had to hire an Architectural Engineer before being issued a building permit.
Multiple inspections were done on the construction process and every time there was an
inspection, the inspector asked to see the Architect plans and therefore the posts and beams
were inspected and approved according to the Architect plans. We also recall that you, Angela
informed us that a carport is not a structure and that the posts can be erected on the property
line. Our carport posts are 1 foot from the property line and our shed is 12 feet from the
neighbours house and 2 feet from the property line and that was all on the sketch given and
approved by the Tropical Isles Park.
* Concerning the closed breezeway and the door at the back of the breezeway. We
temporarily closed off the breezeway with a door to lock the shed because we are away for 6
months. There will be a 4 feet breezeway which will follow the Architect plan.
* The breezeway will be.4 feet wide. The sketch for the shed (garage) and carport were
provided to the 2017 Tropical Isles Board members and signed and approved by those
members and they never asked for the dimensions of the shed (garage) or carport or the
building materials. Those members were more concerned that we didn't go out of our
property line with the cement extension. The cement extension is 6 feet wide on the
r-,
neighbour's side and measures 17 feet wide in line with the back of our house. We did not
alter the cement size from the time of the pouring back in March, 2018 . Contrary to the
accusations from the 2018-19 Tropical Isles Board members we did not alter or expand our
cement. Towards March,2019, as per the Architect plans, We had to cut our existing cement
slab into six (6) -24" X 24 " square holes and each 24" deep to put rebars in and pour cement
over them for more carport post reinforcement. This cement pouring must have confused the
2018-19 Board members into thinking that we had altered the size of our cement slab.
* We asked the Architect for a letter to modify the plans for the splices in the carport area. A
letter will be provided.
* As to the Tropical Isles minimum required setback of 7.5 feet on the side yard as you
mention. Tropical Isles never told us of this setback when they verified and approved our
construction plan back in 2017 nor did we see this rule .in their Rules and Regulations or their
Prospectus. Did Tropical Isles provide your office with a copy of this setback and if so can you
e-mail us a copy please?
* We feel that we are unfairly caught between arguments involving decisions made by the
2017 Tropical Isles Board members and the objections from the 2018-19 Board members as
to the approval of our construction. If the present Board feel that a bad decision was made at
that time, they shouldn't have us pay for it . The Park should have clear and precise Rules and
Regulations for new construction and make them publicly available especially when Board
members can change every year.
As to the St -Lucie Building Department, they demanded Architect plans before giving us a
building permit. We hired an Architect and those plans were approved by the Building Dept.
The construction process was inspected and approved by your Building Dept. inspectors as
the construction work carried on. Those inspections were done and followed diligently
according to Architect plans. Now that 90% of the construction work is done, both Tropical
Isles and the St- Lucie Building Department is accusing us of wrongdoing and are asking us to
pay the cost of modification to our construction. This is unjust and unfair.
Thank You
Pierrette Guenette and Lionel Guenette
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