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BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
ST LUCIE COUNTY, FLORIDA
BOCC Regular Meeting
October 1, 2013 Convened: 6:03 PM
Adjourned: 11:05 PM
I. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 6:03 PM by District No. 2, Chair Tod Mowery
Attendee Name Title
Tod Mowery District No. 2, Chair
Frannie Hutchinson District No. 4, Vice -Chair
Status Arrived
Present
6:03 PM
Absent
Chris Dzadovsky
District No. 1
Present
6:03 PM
Paula A. Lewis
District No. 3
Present
6:03 PM
Kim Johnson
District No. 5
Present
6:03 PM
Faye Outlaw
County Administrator
Present
6:03 PM
Bob Bentkofsky
Deputy County Administrator
Present
6:03 PM
Daniel S. McIntyre
County Attorney
Present
6:03 PM
Katherine Barbieri
Asst. County Attorney
Present
6:03 PM
Marie Gouin
Office of Management & Budget Director
Present
6:03 PM
James R. David
Mosquito Control and Coastal Mgt. Serv. Director
Present
6:03 PM
Mark Satterlee
Planning & Dev Director
Present
6:03 PM
Tara Raymore
Director of Human Resources
Present
6:03 PM
Karen L. Smith
Environmental Resources Department Director
Present
6:03 PM
Edward Matthews
Parks, Recreation & Facilities Director
Present
6:03 PM
Beth Ryder
Community Services Director
Present
6:03 PM
Kelly Phelan-
Recording Secretary Present
6:03 PM
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II. INVOCATION
III. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
IV. MINUTES AND PROCLAMATIONS APPROVAL
RESULT: ADOPTED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER: Paula A. Lewis, District No. 3
SECONDER: Kim Johnson, District No. 5
AYES: Tod Mowery, Chris Dzadovsky, Paula A. Lewis, Kim Johnson
ABSENT: Frannie Hutchinson
1. Board of County Commissioners - Tentative Budget Hearing - Sep 5, 2013 6:00 PM
2. Board of County Commissioners - BOCC Regular Meeting - Sep 17, 2013 9:00 AM
3. Board of County Commissioners - Final Budget Hearing - Sep 19, 2013 6:00 PM
4. Resolution 2013-185 - Proclaiming October 2013 as "National Disability
Employment Awareness Month and National Down Syndrome Awareness Month" in
St. Lucie County, Florida
Adrienne Moore, Helping People Succeed, was present to accept the proclamation.
She talked about how they help people with disabilities especially through their
adult employment programs.
5. Resolution 2013-184 - Proclaiming October 2013 as "Residents' Rights Month" in St.
Lucie County, Florida
Kevin McKeown, District Ombudsman Manager, Treasure Coast Long -
Term Care Ombudsman Program, and Patty Kafka, District Chair for the Treasure
Coast Long -Term Care Ombudsman Program, were present to accept the
proclamation. Kevin McKeown spoke about their organization that advocates for
residents in nursing homes, assisted living facilities and adult family care homes.
6. Resolution 2013-183 - Proclaiming October 2013 as "National Domestic Violence
Awareness Month" in St. Lucie County, Florida
Commissioner Mowery invited everyone to participate in the upcoming "Walk a Mile
in her Shoes" event on October 12th.
Jill Borowicz, Safe Space, was present to accept the proclamation. She emphasized
local domestic violence statistics and talked about the "Walk a Mile in her Shoes"
event. In addition, they provided information on how to contact their organization.
Commissioner Johnson commented on the upcoming event on Thursday.
Jill Borowicz provided details for the Quarter Auction event at Grace Church.
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V. PRESENTATIONS
Commissioner Mowery commented that Commissioner Hutchinson is not present because she is
in Washington working on some important items.
The County Administrator gave an introduction for this next item and explained that the
Mosquito Control and Coastal Services Director recently went to Tallahassee and testified as part
of the hearing regarding the state of our river. He is present tonight to give the Board and
update on the outcome. She talked about those that are currently in Washington and those that
will be going to Washington soon to address some important issues.
The Mosquito Control Director explained that he and the Chairman recently met with Senator
Negron to go over some information that was collected at the Senator's request. This was done
in order to analyze the conditions in the lagoon to frame St. Lucie County's perspective on
what's happening in the Indian River Lagoon and provide some suggestions for trying to mitigate
some of those impacts. Staff went to Tallahassee last week and made a presentation that
discussed the concept of using an ocean pumping system to try to mitigate the effects of 4.2
billion gallons of fresh water moving up the lagoon that is threatening the sea grasses in St.
Lucie County. The committee was very receptive to the idea of ocean pumping. They've been
collecting data on the lagoon to try to determine what's going on and when and how to respond.
He believes there are processes and procedures that they could take to reduce or dilute
freshwater to protect the sea grass beds. The total amount of nitrates is estimated at over
80,000 pounds and that doesn't include the organics that are suspended in the water column
that are shading sea grasses as the water moves northward in the lagoon. They would like to
respond with something that improves the exchange of ocean water and improves the circulation
where the freshwater is impacting the sea grass. They submitted a resolution supporting the
issuance of an emergency executive order. He talked about the resolutions from Martin County,
St. Lucie Village, and Indian River County. They believe that the executive orders are called for
to deal with this situation as an emergency response similar to what occurs during an oil spill.
Commissioner Mowery commented that they've met with various counties as well as state
representatives to bring everyone up to speed as this issue has been one of the largest single
significant impacts lately.
VI. GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT
Commissioner Mowery advised that there was an add -on to the agenda.
Commissioner Dzadovsky suggested giving the topic of the Seven50 Plan its own agenda item
and explained why. He then made a motion to allow the 750 plan to have its own agenda item
after the regular agenda.
Commissioner Johnson commented that he feels that people will still address the issue during
regular public comment.
Commissioner Dzadovsky responded that there are hearings and other items where engineers,
attorneys and planners are waiting to be heard who are being paid by the hour. He wants to give
this item as much time as needed and this would give those businesses that are here paying
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attorneys the opportunity to move through the county business first and then be able to hear
this item.
Commissioner Lewis commented that they could do that on a future agenda if they want to
handle it that way; however, she doesn't want to rank the importance of the business.
Commissioner Dzadovsky said he was asked to bring it forth by those folks that have to pay the
bill.
Commissioner Mowery suggested mingling the comments tonight so that not all one group is
talking back to back.
Mark Gotz, 154 Magnolia Lakes Blvd, Fort Pierce, FL, addressed the Board in opposition to the
Seven50 plan.
Roy Brewer, 6 Ore Grande Way, Port St. Lucie, FL was present to speak on behalf of the
veterans that were present regarding the termination of Veteran Services Officer, Donna
Carlson. He talked about the loss to the County and the circumstances surrounding her
termination as he understood them. He asked the Board to call in an outside agency to
investigate and also asked that the Veteran Services Office be restructured to report directly to
the County Administrator to provide for better supervision and control. He also asked the
County Administrator to look into Ms. Carlson's unemployment.
Commissioner Mowery responded that some of the veterans came today to meet with the
County Administrator. He asked if they received positive assistance and if they felt better about
what they heard as opposed to when they came in today and they responded that they do. He
explained the Board does not have the ability to be involved in personnel matters.
The County Administrator addressed the personnel matter and explained that although it is not
appropriate to go into the details about any personnel decision it is important to note for the
record that the County utilizes a progressive disciplinary process. This was done in this case and
unfortunately the end result was a separation. She explained at -will employment that is utilized
by the County. She addressed the concerns of the veterans regarding operations and said that
they have a shared goal to improve the Veteran Services Operations. She assured the veteran's
community as well as the Board that they are committed to continually improving. She has met
with the Veteran Services Manager to discuss suggestions that she received and has already
given him direction to implement those immediately and is looking to implement other
suggestions. She also wanted to clear up the misconception that the County no longer provides
daily transportation to West Palm Beach which is not correct. They operate two vans, five days
per week and if one is not in service, they have two backup vans. She also addressed the
appointment policy and the concerns regarding the money that was taken and explained that
those were donations and not County dollars so the matter was turned over to law enforcement.
She committed to the Board and the community that the comments have been duly noted and
will be taken with the utmost consideration. They intend to have a follow-up meeting at the end
of this month to go over some more specific recommendations with the intent of moving forward
to ensure the best services are being offered.
Commissioner Mowery stated that the County is committed to providing the best possible
services for our veterans so we are taking this matter seriously.
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Roy Brewer clarified that the missing money was taken by a County employee and that he would
like to discuss this item further with administration.
The Board recessed at 7:01 p.m. and reconvened at 7:08 pm.
Commissioner Lewis stated that she was not aware that a presentation had been requested by
the Seven50 group. She discussed the possibility of having a presentation as there may be some
information that has not been brought forward at this point because of the length of time of each
public comment segment. She asked the Board if they want to consider having a presentation
for a future meeting.
Commissioner Dzadovsky explained that was part of the reason why he brought it forward
initially. If they had an agenda item, it would allow them to put everything together and educate
the Board formally and more concisely to create a big picture.
Commissioner Johnson responded he would not be against having a presentation. He questioned
whether this would be for an informal or a formal meeting and if there would be any time
constraints.
Commissioner Lewis asked the County Administrator if there are certain rules that apply for
people giving outside presentations.
The County Administrator responded that they do have rules; however, the Board has discretion
on these items.
Commissioner Lewis suggested that they work within the guidelines that have been previously
set and that they have a discussion with the representative of the group to determine if the time
frames would work.
The County Administrator explained that they schedule the presentations as part of the
beginning of the meeting and addressed possibly scheduling it under the regular agenda.
Commissioner Lewis responded that it was her understanding that when it appears under
presentations as a presentation agenda item, then that is part of the agenda.
The County Administrator advised that she will follow up to make certain that is structured
appropriately.
Commissioner Johnson said he trusts the fact that Ms. Outlaw can meet with a representative of
the group to come up with a binding commitment that would allow them to give a presentation
with the timeframe beneficial for the group and allow the Board to be educated from their
standpoint.
Commissioner Dzadovsky commented on the Planning and Zoning presentation and explained
that each side had the same amount of time.
Commissioner Mowery responded that they would need to have a spokesperson and he looked to
the group to determine if this is a direction that would be desirable to the Seven50 group.
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Commissioner Lewis stated that they don't have to decide right now how much time they need,
that is something they can work on.
Mark Gotz responded that they will be looking for about an hour's worth of time.
Commissioner Johnson commented on the Planning and Zoning presentation.
Commissioner Lewis explained why she suggested that this item be heard under presentations,
because there's no action taken on those items.
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Mark Gotz asked if they would be able to present on November 7 , the same day the
presentation from Seven50 is scheduled. He also asked if they will be allowed the same amount
of time for a counter presentation.
Commissioner Johnson stated he thought that that was a good idea.
Mark Gotz said they would like to have this opportunity because there's a lot of educational
information that they're not able to convey as easily.
Commissioner Mowery asked for clarification on the November 7 th meeting.
The County Administrator responded that November 7 th is scheduled as a Special Board meeting
with a single item agenda of Seven50 only. The Board has a wide range of discretion as to how
to conduct the meeting and the Board would be in a position to take action if they so choose.
Commissioner Mowery clarified that there is a request to have an presentation on this topic for
the next meeting.
The County Administrator also asked for clarification as to whether or not this is to be scheduled
for the next meeting.
Commissioner Lewis said that was her understanding but then the discussion went to the
November 7 th meeting.
Mark Gotz responded that the presentation for the next meeting would be educational. Then
they would like to counter the presentation on the seventh because they know that the plan will
then be finalized within the following two weeks.
It was the consensus of the Board to have a presentation regarding the Seven50 plan at the
next meeting. The County Administrator was given direction to coordinate with Mr. Gotz to
schedule the presentation.
Mark Gotz responded that he'll discuss the timing with the task force to see what their best
couple of pieces would be because a 30 to 45 minute presentation would clear up a lot of
questions.
Thomas Ladomirak, 2152 SW Madruga St., Port St. Lucie, FL stated that he did not realize that
Donna Carlson was no longer part of Veteran Services. He talked about "All Aboard Florida " in
hopes that the County would support the idea of connecting to Tri-Rail with a stop on the
Treasure Coast so residents can access special events in other parts of Florida. He also
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addressed his concerns regarding the river, septic tanks adjacent to waterways, the
deterioration of Walton Road and the location of rehab centers in Port St. Lucie.
Captain Don Voss, 323 Leeward Lane, Fort Pierce, FL addressed the Board regarding his
upcoming trip to Washington, DC, the goals they hope to achieve while there and the money
that they raised for the trip. He commented that Sen. Rubio has given them a letter of support
which they posted on their website and he thanked the Commissioners for passing the resolution
for the state of emergency.
Marty Baum, Indian River Keeper, Jensen Beach, FL resident, thanked the Commissioners for
passing the resolution for the state of emergency. Before money is spent on pumping water into
the lagoon he recommended passing a meaningful fertilizer ordinance and also suggested
shunting C-25 Canal water north or south to get it out of the inlet. He asked the Board to
petition the Army Corps and the Water Management District to send the water somewhere else.
He also expressed concern regarding the idea of tank farms at the port property.
The County Administrator advised the Board that there is a staff report and update regarding the
fertilizer ordinance scheduled for the October 8 th informal meeting at 9 a.m.
Marty Baum talked about his upcoming trip to Washington and their fundraising efforts.
Ezra Appel, 999 SW 38 th Street Palm City, FL addressed the Board regarding the state of the
river and explained that he works for the Indian River Lagoon Aquatic Preserve Island. He talked
about his concern that a tank farm may be an option for the port property especially with the
money being invested in downtown Marine development.
Phyllis Frye, 275 Date Palm Road, Vero Beach, FL, addressed the Board in opposition to the
Seven50 plan.
Dave Griffin, 1981 SE Mandrake Circle, Port St. Lucie, FL, addressed the Board in opposition to
the Seven50 plan.
Eva Ries, 5209 Palmetto Ave, Fort Pierce, FL addressed the Board regarding her request that the
Board authorize a public hearing for a seasonal fertilizer ban for waterfront properties. She
thanked Commissioner Dzaclovsky for the work that he has done looking into this item.
Katie Luie, 473 SE Essex, Port St Lucie, FL, addressed the Board regarding revisiting the
fertilizer ordinance and also expressed concerns about potential tank farm.
Charlotte Munsick, 1416 15 th Ave., Vero Beach, FL, addressed the Board in opposition to the
Seven50 plan.
John Davis, 5244 Compass Cove, Fort Pierce, FL thanked the Commissioners for their leadership
at the recent "Hands across the Lagoon" event. He addressed the Board regarding revisiting the
fertilizer ordinance as well as his concerns about a potential tank farm. He also spoke in
opposition to the American Coalition for Property Rights group.
Linda Nichols, 1450 SW Cellini Ave, Port St Lucie, FL, addressed the Board in opposition to the
Seven50 plan.
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Stockard Holand, 4097 Gator Trace Rd, Fort Pierce, FL, addressed the Board regarding the
supposed increase in sea levels and rise in the earth's temperature and said that statistically he
doesn't believe that there is an increase. He also spoke in opposition of the Seven50 plan. He
asked that once the Seven50 plan comes out, that it be printed in the newspaper or available for
everyone to see.
Rodica Novack, 4200 AlA, Fort Pierce, FL, addressed the Board in opposition to the Seven50
plan.
Arthur Apissomian , 2142 SE Morningside Drive, Port St. Lucie, FL addressed the Board
regarding his concerns for the state of the lagoon and stated he is opposed to a fuel depot as
well as the Seven50 plan.
Mary Burton, 5209 Silver Oak Drive, Fort Pierce, FL, addressed the Board regarding her concerns
with many of the comments made during public comment. She is opposed to the Seven50 plan
and specifically talked about recent comments made at a recent Planning & Zoning meeting.
T.K. Komo, 2746 SE Eagle Drive, Port St. Lucie, FL addressed the Board regarding her family
background and minorities based on public comments made during the meeting and expressed
her opposition to the Seven50 plan.
Melinda Meikle, 1612 W Camino Del Rio, Vero Beach, FL, addressed the Board in opposition to
the Seven50 plan.
Rhett Lloyd, 1518 N. Lawnwood Circle, Fort Pierce, FL, addressed the Board in opposition to the
Seven50 plan.
John Arena, Fort Pierce Resident, addressed the Board regarding solar panels and his concerns
regarding sand as well as the port charrette.
Richard Sylvestri, 5708 Buchannan Drive, Ft Pierce, FL, addressed the Board regarding global
warming and climate change effected by human activity.
Maria Perkins, 6735 Dulce Real, Fort Pierce, FL questioned the Board as to why the Board has
paid dues to the Treasure Coast Regional Planning Council.
Commissioner Dzadovsky responded and explained the function of the Treasure Coast Regional
Planning Council.
Commissioner Lewis explained that the Seven50 plan and the activities of the Regional Planning
Council, which was put in place by the state a long time ago, are two separate activities. The
dues have nothing to do with the Seven50 plan.
The County Administrator talked about the membership of the Regional Planning Council. She
explained their function and said that we pay dues annually to be a member.
County Attorney explained that the Regional Planning Councils are set out in state statute and
the dues are used to fund the staff. The County did not initiate this idea; it was set up by the
state law.
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Stephanie Austin, 6250 Arrowhead Ln, Vero Beach, FL, addressed the Board in opposition to the
Seven50 plan.
The Board was in recess at 8:59 p.m. and reconvened at 9:13 p.m.
VII. CONSENT AGENDA
RESULT: ADOPTED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER: Kim Johnson, District No. 5
SECONDER: Paula A. Lewis, District No. 3
AYES: Tod Mowery, Chris Dzadovsky, Paula A. Lewis, Kim Johnson
ABSENT: Frannie Hutchinson
A. WARRANTS
1. Warrant List No. 50
2. Warrant List No. 51
B. COUNTY ATTORNEY
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1. Ordinance Amendment Section 11.08/06 of the St. Lucie County Land
Development Code - Permission to Advertise
2. Walton Road Annex - Seventh Amendment to Facilities Use Agreement with
Port St. Lucie Historical Society, Inc.
3. Resolution 2013-129 - Quit Claim Deed for a portion of Entrada Avenue to
Florida Department of Transportation
4. Resolution 2013-186 - Authorizing the Acquisition of Property by Donation,
Purchase or Eminent Domain - Parcel No. 123
5. Resolution 2013-187 - Authorizing the Acquisition of Property by Donation,
Purchase or Eminent Domain - Parcel 102
6. Resolution 2013-188 - Authorizing the Acquisition of Property by Donation,
Purchase or Eminent Domain - Parcel No. 124
7. Resolution 2013-189 - Authorizing the Acquisition of Property by Donation,
Purchase or Eminent Domain - Parcel No. 125
8. Resolution 2013-194 - Authorizing the County Engineer or Designee to
Explain the Project and Testify about Controlling Standard Design
9. Resolution 2013-190 - Authorizing the Acquisition of Property by Donation,
Purchase or Eminent Domain - Parcel No. 121
10. Revocable License Agreement Riverbend Subdivision - Gilson Road
11. Port of Fort Pierce - Maritime Training Academy
This item was pulled for separate discussion. Commissioner Dzadovsky
explained that the letter simply states that we are interested in a maritime
training academy. It is not a commitment to anything including expending
money; it simply says that we are interested. Once the master plan update is
complete, this could be included as part of the plan.
The County Attorney provided background on this item and explained that
this does not commit the County to anything, it simply expresses our
interest. He said that they are working with Indian River State College on this
project and if successful, it may lead to funding opportunities.
Commissioner Johnson expressed his support of this project.
C. ADMINISTRATION
There are no items scheduled.
D. COMMUNITY SERVICES
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1. Resolution 2013-191 - Federal Transit Administration (FTA) Job Access
Reverse Commute (JARC)
2. Resolution 2013-192 - Federal Transit Administration (FTA) New Freedom
(N F)
3. Non -Profit Outside Agency Grant Agreements
E. COURT ADMINISTRATION
There are no items scheduled.
F. ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCES
1. Board approval of the Land Acquisition and Selection Committee's
recommendation to pursue acquisition of the Klatt parcels.
2. Board approval to pursue acquisition of the Hendler parcels.
3. Board approval of the Land Acquisition and Selection Committee's
recommendation to pursue acquisition of the Crawford parcel.
4. Board approval of the Land Acquisition and Selection Committee's
recommendation to pursue acquisition of the Martin parcels.
5. Resolution 2013-195 - Acceptance of Indian River Lagoon National Estuary
Program Grant Award
This item was pulled for separate discussion. Commissioner Dzadovsky
wanted the public to be aware of this opportunity to extend dollars to provide
additional educational opportunities for those who wish to learn more about
how our storm systems work.
Commissioner Lewis commented that it's beneficial to get the kids out there
to show them what we're talking about.
G. HUMAN RESOURCES
There are no items scheduled
H. MOSQUITO CONTROL & COASTAL MGMT. SERVICES
There are no items scheduled.
I. OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT & BUDGET
1. Tax Collector Advance Request
2. Supervisor of Elections Advance Request
J. PARKS, RECREATION, & FACILITIES
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There are no items scheduled
K. PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES
There are no items scheduled.
L. PUBLIC SAFETY & COMMUNICATIONS
There are no items scheduled.
M. PUBLIC WORKS
1. Pierce 131, LLC - Carriage Point Estates
2. Palomar Street at Lakewood Park Canal Culvert Replacement Project
3. Sandberg Lane at North St. Lucie River Water Control District (NSLRWCD)
Canal No. 27 Culvert Sleeving Project
N. SHERIFF'S OFFICE
There are no items scheduled.
0. SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS
There are no items scheduled.
P. TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION
There are no items scheduled.
VIII. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. COUNTY ATTORNEY
Code Enforcement Case No. 73474, 3307 Delaware Avenue, Fort Pierce, FL -
Unsightly and Unsanitary Conditions causing serious threat to public safety.
The Assistant County Attorney provided background on this item. She
explained that there was a 30 day continuance to allow the property owner
to clean up the property and talked about the efforts he has made since
then. Staff does not feel that the property poses a serious threat to public
health, safety and welfare and is asking the Board not to find that it does.
Commissioner Dzadovsky asked for a legal opinion because he assisted the
homeowner with cleaning up the property. He was looking for clarification on
whether or not he can comment and vote or must he abstain altogether.
The County Attorney responded that voting conflicts generally require a
financial gain or loss. He said that he asked the Assistant County Attorney to
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check with the Commission on Ethics and advised the Board that she will be
providing them with an update.
The Assistant County Attorney advised the Board that a commissioner is
required to abstain if there is a financial or economic impact.
Commissioner Johnson commended the homeowner.
Commissioner Mowery clarified that vehicles on the property only have to be
operable and not licensed and operable.
The Assistant County Attorney responded that is correct; the vehicles on the
property have to be operable.
Gregory Glafenhein, 3307 Delaware Ave, Fort Pierce, FL, thanked
Commissioner Dzadovsky for his help. He also thanked the commissioners
and staff for their efforts.
Commissioner Dzadovsky commented that the homeowner was having a
serious issue with his wiring. He contacted FPL and they came out and
reviewed the situation. He explained that is why the appliances were stacked
there because they had to be inspected first before a claim could be
processed.
Karen Emerson, 3503 Fontaneda Ave, Fort Pierce, FL, commended the
homeowner on the progress of the property. She addressed the Board
regarding her concern that the property is still not in code and went on to
describe the particular issues including the unlicensed vehicles and the fence.
She talked about her discussion with the permitting department. She said
she's happy with the progress but doesn't feel it is complete and is asking for
continuance on this item.
Commissioner Dzaclovsky asked what codes are not being complied with
specifically.
Karen Emerson said there's no permit for the wooden pallets.
Commissioner Dzadovsky clarified they are not wooden pallets, they are part
of the fence. He asked staff for clarification on the permit status.
Staff responded that a fence permit has been issued.
Karen Emerson responded that they've been getting a different story from
the permit office for the last three years.
Commissioner Dzadovsky clarified that they are talking about the 30 days
they had to make a difference.
Karen Emerson re -addressed her concerns regarding the fence and said that
the wood panels keep moving and asked refer to the photographs.
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Commissioner Dzadovsky asked what other items are still not up to code.
Karen Emerson talked about the code stating that the vehicles have to be
licensed, reiterated her fence concerns and talked about the trailers on the
property as well.
Staff asked if she was talking about the trailer that was in the front yard.
Karen Emerson responded that she was referring to the one that was full.
Staff responded to the trailer has been removed.
Karen Emerson readdressed the discussions with the permitting department
regarding the fence permit.
Staff advised Ms. Emerson that she personally researched the record before
tonight's hearing and then reviewed the status of the permit which shows
that there is an active fence permit for the property. Staff apologized if she
was given incorrect information.
Commissioner Dzadovsky stated that compliance is what they seek. He
talked about driving through the neighborhood and his concern that the
neighbors may want to take every home in that area to a certain level that
they find appropriate and he has concerns with selective enforcement. He
asked about selective enforcement from a legal standpoint.
The Assistant County Attorney responded that Code Enforcement is primarily
complaint driven. When they get a complaint, they're supposed to look at the
whole street for the same items and treat the whole neighborhood for those
items.
Karen Emerson stated that she hopes that they are applying the county code
and paying attention. She understands it's a difficult job and they are asking
that the matter be continued until it's complete.
Commissioner Dzadovsky asked what code violation still exist so if something
is being missed by staff, it can be addressed.
Karen Emerson reiterated her concerns.
Commissioner Dzadovsky commented on her fence permit concerns.
Commissioner Johnson asked for clarification as to whether or not the
vehicles on the property were operable.
Karen Emerson stated the vehicles have to be licensed according to the code.
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The Assistant County Attorney explained that if they are licensed, there is a
presumption. If they're not, the code officer goes out and if the vehicles start
and move then they meet the code.
Phyllis Castro, 3405 Delaware Ave, Fort Pierce, FL, concurred with her
neighbor that they are not done yet but it's a positive step. She addressed
the county code issues that she feels are still ongoing and addressed her
frustrations with this process. She also talked about her conversations with
the permitting department.
Staff responded that the 2010 fence permit has been renewed.
Phyllis Castro asked that the homeowner finish the fence.
Commissioner Johnson commented that they're not focusing on the last 11
years they are only looking at the last 30 days and feels that the homeowner
should be commended for the progress that he's made. He understands that
the fence may be a safety issue but the homeowner has 180 days to get it
completed.
Phyllis Castro continued to address her concerns.
Commissioner Johnson asked that code go back and check out the issues
that are being discussed and possibly continue this hearing.
Phyllis Castro discussed her concerns regarding the trash being piled up.
She also discussed the inequity of justice as it relates to other code
enforcement cases compared to this one.
Commissioner Johnson continued to address Ms. Castro's concerns and
reiterated the possibility of having staff return to the property.
Phyllis Castro reiterated they just want compliance with code.
Commissioner Mowery commented that staff has already said that the
homeowner has come into compliance and feels Ms. Castro's expectations
will probably not be the same as staff expectations. He also talked about the
condition of other properties on the same street.
Commissioner Johnson commented that he would like to see the fence
stationary and in one spot.
Phyllis Castro continued to discuss her concerns regarding the fence.
Commissioner Mowery addressed Ms. Castro's concerns regarding the fence.
Phyllis Castro asked if the fence is secured at this point.
Staff responded there is not been a final inspection yet so more than likely
not.
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Phyllis Castro clarified that they are just waiting for the secured final
inspection and she said she would be fine with that.
The County Attorney explained that the Board is not a Code Enforcement
Board and encouraged the Board not to get into the fines. He explained that
the only reason they are involved is because the Code Enforcement Board
determined that this was a serious threat to public health, safety and welfare
which is what the Board is supposed to determine. Any other issues should
go back to code enforcement staff and if there's a need to get involved then
it should go back before that Board. He explained they are simply being
asked to determine if it is a serious threat to public health, safety and
welfare. He reiterated that staff believes that it's not and that is the issue
that needs to be decided.
The Assistant County Attorney reviewed the definition of abandoned property
and the county code as it relates to abandoned property.
Commissioner Dzaclovsky clarified that if the vehicles were licensed there
would be no need to even know if they operate or not.
The Assistant County Attorney responded that it raises a rebuttable
presumption so it could be licensed and of all the tires are flat then they
would want to see that is operable.
Commissioner Mowery clarified the staff recommendation.
The County Attorney responded that staff has found that is not a threat to
health, public safety and welfare.
Gregory Glafenhein discussed the progress of the fence and the permit
status.
Commissioner Dzadovsky made a motion that the Board find no serious
threat to health and safety in this case and that the code department ensure
that the fence be inspected as required by permit.
Commissioner Mowery requested that the motion be made specific to the
items of code enforcement which would include all of those items relating to
the code.
The County Attorney clarified what he felt should be included in the motion.
Commissioner Dzadovsky amended his motion that the Board find no serious
threat to health and safety in this case.
It was moved by Commissioner Dzadovsky, seconded by Com. Lewis, to find
no serious threat to health and safety in this case and; upon roll call, motion
carried unanimously.
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Commissioner Johnson made a motion to have code ensure the fence is
secure.
Commissioner Mowery asked to clarify if he wanted the motion to be for one
specific item.
Commissioner Dzadovsky just wanted to ensure that it follows code and that
it's inspected; the permit process alone will handle that within the time frame
allowed.
Staff responded that the permit will take care of that and ensured the Board
that they will work with the property owner to make sure that is done.
Commissioner Johnson withdrew his motion with the understanding that staff
will take care of any code issues.
Commissioner Mowery questioned if the $15,000 fine that was levied against
the applicant still stands today.
The Assistant County Attorney responded that is correct and it can be
addressed by the Code Enforcement Board.
Commissioner Mowery asked if the Board of County Commissioners can
make a recommendation that it be examined.
The Assistant County Attorney responded the determination of fine
reductions are made by the Code Enforcement Board but the Board could
direct staff to work on that issue.
Commissioner Mowery asked about the status and as to whether it has to be
paid in a certain time frame or how that's handled.
The Assistant County Attorney responded that they are liens that are
recorded against the property and as it is Homestead protected, the lien
would remain until the property is sold.
Commissioner Lewis commented that she is reluctant to move into that area
and make a recommendation that belongs to the Code Enforcement Board
especially because it may set a precedent in the future with regard to fines.
Commissioner Johnson concurred with Commissioner Lewis.
RESULT: ADOPTED AS AMENDED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER: Chris Dzadovsky, District No. 1
SECONDER: Paula A. Lewis, District No. 3
AYES: Tod Mowery, Chris Dzadovsky, Paula A. Lewis, Kim Johnson
ABSENT: Frannie Hutchinson
B. PLANNING & DEVELOPMENT SERVICES
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1. Resolution 2013-193 - O'Brien Subdivision Paving Waiver - Quasi Judicial
Public Hearing
Staff gave a presentation, "O'Brien Subdivision, Paving Waiver, Quasi-judicial
Public Hearing" that was filed with the Clerk.
Ron Harris, County Surveyor, explained the fair share contribution options
and said that the fair share amount will be held for 10 years and if there are
no improvements made in that time, it will be returned with interest.
Commissioner Mowery acknowledged this being a quasi-judicial hearing and
stated he has met with the applicant.
Commissioner Dzaclovsky and Commissioner Mowery both stated that they
have met with the applicant.
Commissioner Lewis and Commissioner Johnson had no disclosures to make.
Dennis Murphy, Culpepper and Terpening, addressed the Board on behalf of
the applicant regarding the waiver request. He discussed the "use it or pay it
back" provision and said that he doesn't feel that this road will be paved
within 10 years. If an MSBU is created in the future, they will participate.
They are asking that the Board grant full relief from the fair share
contribution.
Commissioner Dzadovsky clarified if the roads were chip sealed. He
addressed his concerns regarding septic tanks and wells and questioned if
they were near areas where Fort Pierce Utility already has utilities in place.
He also expressed his concerns regarding road paving and drainage.
Ron Harris responded that there have been no drainage problems in that
area. Normally the County will not place millings on any roadway unless they
have proper open swale drainage.
Commissioner Dzaclovsky asked if there are County roads in that area that
are chip sealed.
Ron Harris responded that there are, the neighborhood is very old. He
explained that the County doesn't have any money for roads and doesn't see
them coming up with the money for it in the distant future.
Commissioner Dzaclovsky talked about the property being nearly continuous
to Fort Pierce. He continued to express concerns because past developers
haven't paid for their fair share of development on the infrastructure side.
The Planning and Development Director also responded to Commissioner
Dzadovsky's concerns. Each one of these lots will be required to meet the
requirements of South Florida Water Management District as they develop
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the lots individually. He also talked about the level of impact to the
developer.
Commissioner Dzadovsky addressed his concern regarding chip seal roads
coming apart in not being able to re -chip seal them. That money could
certainly go towards repairing or maintaining those roads and he questioned
if that was allowed.
Ron Harris responded that the money cannot be used for maintenance; it can
only be used for construction of a county standard road which would require
an all-weather service which is asphalt. He clarified that the road is a millings
road so there is a difference and it is adequate for the traffic that is on it. He
doesn't feel that the amount of lots will have that much impact to the
millings.
Commissioner Mowery clarified that there are only four lots on that street
and one lot on another street.
The Planning and Development Director said that would be approximately 40
additional trips per day under the typical traffic analysis and that road should
be able to withstand that.
Commissioner Dzadovsky suggested that they maintain some of those
monies in play even if it does take 10 years because we're dealing with so
many issues such as not getting roads paved.
Commissioner Mowery explained that this would be a complete build out with
those four lots. It will cost the county over $800,000 to put in a new road
and he doesn't see the county wanting to spend that much money on an
existing street that has issues. He questioned why we would set aside money
after staff has explained that they can't imagine that we would ever spend
that kind of money on that street when there are other streets that would
have higher traffic volumes.
Ron Harris commented that the developer has also proposed to donate an
additional 10 foot right-of-way which the County would have had to
purchase.
Dennis Murphy commented while he appreciates Commissioner Dzadovsky's
concerns, he feels that the County's money could be better spent elsewhere.
Commissioner Johnson asked if the millings roads were compatible with other
roads in the area.
Ron Harris responded that most of the local roads in that area have had
millings placed on them in that general geographic area with a few
exceptions.
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Commissioner Johnson made a motion to approve the full amount of the
waiver.
Commissioner Lewis agrees with staff that it's unlikely that they would be
able to get in there and pave the entire road so to hold someone's money
while we're not likely to do the project doesn't make a lot of sense.
Commissioner Dzadovsky questioned if this area is built out would if they be
required to participate in a MSBU.
County Attorney commented that typically there is language in the plat that
indicates there is consent given to an MSBU if it is ever formed.
Ron Harris responded that the language is not on the plat; however, that it
can be added.
Dennis Murphy responded that they will add it to either the plat or site plan
order.
Ron Harris suggested that it be added to both the plat and the site plan
order.
Commissioner Dzadovsky commented that he cannot move forward unless
it's memorialized in some way.
Commissioner Mowery asked if the applicant was comfortable with that.
Dennis Murphy responded that they will take care of it.
Commissioner Dzadovsky reiterated the reasons why he was concerned with
this item.
Commissioner Lewis commented that it had been suggested by staff that the
drainage is good because they will not put millings down unless the drainage
is good and for that reason she is comfortable moving forward.
Commissioner Johnson amended his motion to include adding the language
regarding participating in a MSBU.
It was moved by Commissioner Johnson, seconded by Commissioner Lewis,
to approve the full amount of the waiver and include the MSBU participation
language in the plat and site plan order and; upon roll call, motion carried
unanimously.
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RESULT:
ADOPTED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER:
Kim Johnson, District No. 5
SECONDER:
Paula A. Lewis, District No. 3
AYES:
Tod Mowery, Chris Dzadovsky, Paula A. Lewis, Kim Johnson
ABSENT:
Frannie Hutchinson
2. Ordinance 2013-39 - Proposed Land Development Code text amendment to
revise regulations related to signs (Chapters II and IX).
Staff gave a presentation, "Chapter II Definitions and Chapter IX - Sign
Code", regarding changes to the sign code that was filed with the Clerk. Staff
recommended that the adoption hearing be scheduled for December 17,
2013.
Commissioner Dzadovsky addressed his concern regarding folding signs and
suggested a wind provision.
Staff explained that there is not wind provision but one can be added.
Charles Ray addressed the Board
on behalf of
several
local businesses in
support of this item and thanked
staff for their
efforts.
He also stated that
they have no problem with the
addition of
a wind
provision. He also
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RESULT: 1ST READING APPROVED [UNANIMOUS] Next:
12/17/2013 9:00 AM
MOVER: Kim Johnson, District No. 5
SECONDER: Chris Dzadovsky, District No. 1
AYES: Tod Mowery, Chris Dzadovsky, Paula A. Lewis, Kim Johnson
ABSENT: Frannie Hutchinson
IX. REG U LAR AG E N DA
A. PLANNING & DEVELOPMENT SERVICES
1. O'Brien Subdivision Plat
This item was heard concurrently with Item # VIII-Bl.
RESULT: ADOPTED AS AMENDED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER: Paula A. Lewis, District No. 3
SECONDER: Kim Johnson, District No. 5
AYES: Tod Mowery, Chris Dzadovsky, Paula A. Lewis, Kim Johnson
ABSENT: Frannie Hutchinson
2. Resolution 2013-166 - Wetland Waiver and Major Site Plan Approval for
Marisol
Staff made a presentation, "Marisol Major Site Plan and Wetland Waiver" that
was filed with the Clerk. She explained that the applicant previously
submitted a plan that created additional uplands and since then, revised the
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plan to indicate fewer wetland impacts and create a larger more functional
wetland area rather than the upland habitat area. Staff has determined that
the project has met the requirements and standards of the land development
code and recommends approval subject to the conditions of approval and
staff's approval of the final revised site plan document. Staff requested that
condition #11 be revised to be consistent with new state statute
requirements relating to other agency permits.
Dennis Murphy, Culpepper and Terpening, was present representing the
applicant.
Mr. Tommy, Seminole Tribe of Florida, requested a continuance on this item.
Dennis Murphy asked for clarification on what Mr. Tommy was requesting in
regard to the continuance.
Mr. Tommy asked for continuance to allow them to go in and look at
anything that may be a significant to their organization.
Commissioner Mowery explained that the approval this project would allow
for the full support of the tribe and allow archaeologists to coordinate with
the applicant as things move forward including following state guidelines
relating to disturbing anything on the site. The applicant is willing to do this
at no cost and they want to make sure that any relics or archaeological items
are handled appropriately. He discussed the conversations that have taken
place with staff and the applicant to make sure they are in compliance.
Staff explained that the Herman's Bay Minton archaeological site is eligible
for listing on the national register of places. Because of the significance, the
applicant paid for a phase three survey. The phase three archaeological
survey report found that the site is a location of a small coastal village
settlement and she discussed the significance of this find. The St. Lucie
County Historical Commission found that because only 5% of the site had
been excavated, it would be wise, even though the state found the site to be
fully mitigated, to have an archaeologist on site at all times to ensure that if
anything appears as a result of excavation, the work will cease. Any
culturally significant items can then be properly identified. Staff recommends
that this project be allowed to move forward with the condition that an
archaeologist be on hand at all times during excavation. The way that this
project is going to be phased, the excavation of the area closest to this site
will be done later in the project. They've agreed to facilitate a negotiated
settlement to allow the Seminole Tribe, an archaeologist and a team at no
cost to the developer to fully excavate the entire site.
Commissioner Mowery wanted to make sure that they provided for that so
that aside from what the state is recommending, they would have the
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opportunity to go in because the site will not be disturbed in that area until
later. That would give those teams the opportunity to go in on their own time
and at their expense if they want to be a part of that. He discussed having to
sign an indemnification waiver in the event that something was to happen.
This way if something is found, it will allow things to be done in an orderly
manner, the way a scientific site would normally be handled.
Mr. Tommy said that he understands that but as a tribal member, he
respects any grounds where his people may have been.
Commissioner Dzadovsky asked if they were to move forward with this item
tonight with the condition that the tribe has some period of time to be out
there as indicated is he okay with that?
Mr. Tommy responded that he was okay with that condition.
Commissioner Johnson asked Mr. Murphy if the tribe or their representative
is allowed to be at the site during excavation.
Dennis Murphy responded that they are allowed to be there. He also said that
he had a conversation with Mr. Tommy earlier and explained that they've
agreed to allow the tribe to come in and check over the northern half of the
property. The concern remains the matter of timing because there is certain
work that has to be done during the non -turtle season so they are good as
long as everything falls within those parameters.
Mr. Tommy commented that they are concerned about the entire property
not just the northern part.
Commissioner Dzaclovsky thanked the applicant regarding their extra efforts
and asked them to describe the drainage plan and the improvements to the
wetlands.
Dennis Murphy reviewed the drainage plan and explained that they will
comply with all guidelines and water quality will meet or exceed any
discharge requirements going into the lagoon. He explained that they have
selected an enhanced wetland system and why they made that choice.
Paul Izzo, EW Consultants, addressed the Board regarding the environmental
impact report which is not yet been updated with the new site plan which has
less wetland impact. He explained the methods that they used to assess the
wetland impact and mitigation. He discussed the initial proposal for the
upland buffer restoration and why they decided to convert those areas to
wetland areas and went on to explain the benefits of doing so.
Commissioner Johnson commended the applicant's team and staff for
working through this item.
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Commissioner Dzadovsky addressed erosion control conditions.
Dennis Murphy responded that they understand their obligations and that the
appropriate references will be in the condo documents as to the
responsibilities for dune restoration.
RESULT: ADOPTED [UNANIMOUS]
MOVER: Paula A. Lewis, District No. 3
SECONDER: Kim Johnson, District No. 5
AYES: Tod Mowery, Chris Dzadovsky, Paula A. Lewis, Kim Johnson
ABSENT: Frannie Hutchinson
3. Resolution 2013-196 - Amending Resolution 06-171 and Updating the
Various Fee schedules associated with the St. Lucie County Land
Development Code to Cover the Costs of Technical and Administrative
Activities in the Building Division.
Commissioner Mowery suggested continuing this item to the next meeting
and expressed his concern regarding the backup items as they relate to the
fees.
The Planning and Development Director responded that it isn't an incredibly
long presentation but they can continue it if necessary. It is their effort to
make sure that their reserve fund is adequate and they are in a position to
fund additional positions as the economy rebounds to continue to improve
their customer service.
Commissioner Dzadovsky commented on the change of fees. He asked if the
Treasure Coast Builders Association and the Chamber of Commerce
supported this effort.
The Planning and Development Director responded that they had worked
with him over the years and each time this has been brought forward,
they've been contacted. If they are going to support the fee increases, they
want the level of service to improve which is their goal. Most of the fees have
gone up and that will generate $120,000 worth of revenue.
Commissioner Johnson asked if the fees are comparable with other
municipalities and county governments within the area.
The Planning and Development Director responded that they did a
comparison of other jurisdictions nearby related to fees and found that they
are in the average.
Commissioner Dzadovsky stated he is willing to move forward with the staff
recommendation.
Commissioner Lewis concurred with Commissioner Dzadovsky based on the
support from the Treasure Coast Builders Association and the Chamber of
Commerce.
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Commissioner Mowery expressed his concerns regarding the fee increases.
He doesn't feel that because someone else is doing it, is a good enough
reason for us to do it. He also talked about adding additional staff and
making sure that we do the best job that we can and holding customer
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RESULT: ADOPTED [3 TO 11
MOVER: Chris Dzadovsky, District No. 1
SECONDER: Paula A. Lewis, District No. 3
AYES: Chris Dzadovsky, Paula A. Lewis, Kim Johnson
NAYS: Tod Mowery
ABSENT: Frannie Hutchinson
X. ANNOUNCEMENTS
1. The Board of County Commissioners will hold a combined Informal/Budget Meeting
on Tuesday, October 8, 2013 at 9:00 a.m. in Conference Room #3 of the Roger
Poitras Administration Annex located at 2300 Virginia Avenue, Fort Pierce, FL.
2. The Board of County Commissioners will hold a Joint meeting with the City of Port
St. Lucie on Tuesday, October 8, 2013 at 2:00 p.m. in the County Commissioners
Chambers of the Roger Poitras Administration Annex located at 2300 Virginia
Avenue, Fort Pierce, FL 34982.
3. The Board of County Commissioners will hold a Public Workshop for a potential
development proposal for the former Radisson Hotel site on North Hutchinson
Island on Tuesday, October 15, 2013 immediately following the regular BOCC
meeting scheduled at 9:00 a.m. in the County Commissioners Chambers of the
Roger Poitras Administration Annex located at 2300 Virginia Avenue, Fort PIerce, FL
34982.
4. The Board of County Commissioners will hold a Budget Workshop on Tuesday,
October 22, 2013 at 10:00 a.m. in Conference Room #3 of the Roger Poitras
Administration Annex located at 2300 Virginia Avenue, Fort PIerce, FL 34982.
5. The Board of County Commissioners will hold a Joint meeting on the Port Master
Plan with the City of Fort Pierce on Tuesday, October 29, 2013 at 2:00 p.m. in the
County Commissioners Chambers of the Roger Poitras Administration Annex located
at 2300 Virginia, Avenue, Fort Pierce, FL 34982.
XI. MOTION TO ADJOURN
There being no further business to be brought before the Board, the meeting was
adjourned.
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Joseph E. Smith Clerk of Circuit
Court
Please Note: Final minutes are recorded in the official minute books that are filed with the
Clerk of the Circuit Court and available for inspection upon request.
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