HomeMy WebLinkAbout07.20.2023PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
ST. LUCIE COUNTY, FLORIDA
Regular Meeting
July 20, 2023 Convened: 6:03 pm
Adjourned: 10:25 pm
1.CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 6:03 pm by Chair Lowe.
2.PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Led by Chair Lowe.
3.INVOCATION
Led by Mr. Taylor.
4.ROLL CALL
Roll call was held by Board Secretary.
Present
Board Member James A. Taylor, Board Member Craig Mundt, Board Member Ryan Binner, Board
Member Valerie Slack, Board Member Larry Neese, Vice-Chair Ed Lounds, Chair Bob Lowe
Excused
Board Member Billy O'Dell, Board Member Craig Bridgers
5.ANNOUNCEMENTS
None.
6.DISCLOSURE(S)
Mr. Binner, Mr. Taylor, and Chair Lowe disclosed a conversation with the P-1 Motor Club
representatives.
7.MINUTES
A.St. Lucie County Planning & Zoning Commission minutes for the meeting on June 15, 2023.
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RESULT:APPROVE
MOVER:Vice-Chair Ed Lounds
SECONDER:Chair Bob Lowe
AYES:James A. Taylor, Bob Lowe, Craig Mundt, Ed Lounds, Ryan Binner, Valerie
Slack, Larry Neese
NAYS:None
EXCUSED:None
8.PUBLIC COMMENT
None
9.PUBLIC HEARINGS
A.Able Adult Day Care Center - Request for a Conditional Use Permit to allow an adult daycare
center with a capacity of up to eighty (80) adults within the I (Institutional) Zoning District. The
adult day care is non-medical and will operate from Monday – Saturday, 8:00 am – 6:00 pm at
3525 West Midway Road, Fort Pierce, Florida.
STAFF PRESENTATION:
Tahir Curry, Planner I, St. Lucie County Planning Division, made a presentation.
BOARD DISCUSSION:
None.
APPLICANT PRESENTATION:
Nikki Kelly
3525 W. Midway Rd.
Nikki Kelly - Thank you for having me. Nikki explains what her project is and how it will help
the community.
BOARD DISCUSSION:
Chair Lowe inquired about licensure status. Ms. Kelly stated the license has not been
secured, as they must finish this process first.
Mr. Mundt inquired about the application process and drop-off. Ms. Kelly stated there will
be an application, we must make sure we can take care of the needs of the person. Case by
case basis.
Mr. Mundt inquired whether clients would mostly be senior citizens, which was affirmed by
the applicant.
Chair Lowe questioned the source of funding, and whether clients may pay out of pocket.
Ms. Kelly confirmed funding potential through the State and Medicaid, through long-term
care as well as out-of-pocket payments.
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Chair Lowe –asked how many cars will be coming & going. Ms. Kelly replied that a
transportation service will be provided with insurance.
Ms. Slack inquired whether the facility will service special needs if there is a way to separate
patients. Ms. Kelly stated that a separate special needs license is required, therefore it will
not be offered to start though there is a way to separate them.
Chair Lowe questioned whether food would be served. Ms. Kelly replied that no hot food
would be provided, but a continental selection.
PUBLIC COMMENT:
None.
BOARD DISCUSSION/MOTION:
RESULT:APPROVE
MOVER:Board Member Ryan Binner
SECONDER:Board Member Valerie Slack
AYES:James A. Taylor, Bob Lowe, Craig Mundt, Ed Lounds, Ryan Binner, Valerie
Slack, Larry Neese
NAYS:None
EXCUSED:None
B.P1 Motor Club - Proposed Comprehensive Plan Future Land Use Map Amendment from AG-5
(Agricultural-5) to SD (Special District).
STAFF PRESENTATION:
A presentation made by Thad Crowe, Senior Planner, Planning Division made the
presentation. Mr. Crowe highlighted the P-1 Motor Club’s request for an Amendment to the
Comprehensive Plan Future Land Use category to an SD (Special District) category which
would allow for a private mixed-use motorsports complex. He detailed that the SD would
provide for the principal use of paved tracks or circuits for cars to drive on; “garagemahals”
which are garage condos that are individually owned units for housing sports and vintage
cars, as well as other use integrated uses. He explained the multi-phased project consisting of
four connected areas, with assigned uses. The presentation touched on guidelines or policies
proposed by the Special District and concluded with staff’s recommendation.
BOARD DISCUSSION:
Mr. Binner spoke to registration requirements for nightly occupants, which would be capped
at 125. Staff replied with emphasis on self-regulation, but also the requirement for a registrar
to maintain an ongoing record. A future PMUD application would detail the frequency of
reporting, with staff responding to any residents’ complaints. It was noted that the applicant
already has a system that provides this report.
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Mr. Binner inquired further into impact fees to fund fire & emergency services, and the
applicability to garage-mahals, to help with emergency services.
Mr. Kori Benton, Planning Manager, stated the County has adopted categories for impact fees
(examples given), noting that when a use does not fit that mold, published data is utilized to
assess traffic impacts (example given), during plan development review and before permit
issuance to ensure an appropriate assessment would be made if an alternative impact fee is
required. If a future build-out takes place, an assessment will take place and supplemental
fees will be charged depending on community impact.
Mr. Binner explored whether there is a better way to test the sound levels, stating once noise
departs, there are many factors that change the noise levels. He questioned whether there
will there be a PA system on the property.
Staff noted that level of detail would come in the planned development stage, though the
County is open to suggestions on the requirements and phases. Mr. Benton affirmed the
phasing guidelines are intended to provide for a mechanism to assess the impact of phase
one before other phases take place.
Vice-Chair Lounds inquired about the allowance for full-time residents, and to the extent
there will be staff on-site to tend to members. Staff replied that full-time residents could
enjoy the up to 125 dwelling units, but not the garagemahals and that staff are expected on
the campus.
Vice-Chair Lounds requested an idea of what 103 decibels is, inquiring whether it was similar
to aloud motorcycle or a car without a muffler.
Ms. Slack gave examples of different decibel levels – including a 737 or DC aircraft at one
nautical mile is 90 decibels, a jet takes off at 305 meters at 100 decibels, a steel mill auto horn
at one meter, a turbofan aircraft at take-off power of 200ft, live rock music in the range of
108-114 decibels, human pain at 110, 100 decibels can be damaging in an 8hr exposer.
Vice-Chair Lounds agreed with Binner about measuring the noise at the boundary, not the
source location, then asked about the water & treatment plant.
The applicant stated that is correct, an on-site plant would be provided
Vice-Chair Lounds stated he would like to discuss this further, as there was not a
representative for the Utilities Department to expand on that now. He complimented staff &
team, highlighting that growth is going to come, that it could benefit from water lines up to
Carlton Road for future expansion.
Mr. Benton replied that it is being evaluated.
Vice-Chair Lounds inquired where would the excess sewer material would go from this kind of
facility. Mr. Benton replied that it is not his area of expertise, however; typically, there would
be an injection well or deposit area for that.
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Mr. Mundt inquired whether clients must be members to use or purchase the garages and
not available to the public. Staff affirmed that is their understanding. Mr. Mundt explored
discussion about the report that Kimley- Horn submitted on the impact of traffic in the area.
Mr. Crowe replied, yes, staff had three revised versions of that report, and each was picked
apart. Discussion of animal control on the property resulted in barriers to be designed.
APPLICANT PRESENTATION
Applicant Presentation made by Michael Houston – HGA Desing Studios & Ari Straus,
applicant.
Chair Lowe inquired about the tax benefits this will bring to the County. The applicant
suggested the range is north of a $100,000,000 dollar tax assessment, and that charity events
can be hosted at the site.
Board Discussion with the applicant:
Ms. Slack inquired about provisions for air traffic control. The applicant stated the air strip
would support infrequent landings, requiring advance permission and it will not be towered,
or lit, with the requirement for a commercial pilot with activities before the track opens &
after it closes. The window would be 7:30 am – 8:30 am and 4:30 pm - 6 pm. No aircraft
services.
Ms. Slack inquired about fuel tank system design and placement. The applicant provided
highlights, that there would be aboveground, two tanks for 93 & 100 octane for cars active
on-site available to the members/guest only. The tanks are expended to be 5000-gallons, to
be split 3,000 for 93 & 2,000 for 100 as an example though the PMUD will provide full details.
Ms. Slack questioned the total sq ft that is planned to allocate to the whole site at build-out.
The applicant suggested a full build-out of 2.1 million square feet at total build-out over
multiple years, touching on an inquiry of a future collocation for a fire station.
Vice-Chair Lounds explored the type of employees anticipated from this County and the cost
for the utilities plant. The applicant stated employees will range from hospitality staff,
mechanics, landscapers, food & beverage personnel, and motorsports executives.
The applicant was unable to advise as to the overall cost, and cost differential in building a
standalone plant or extending utility lines from the fairgrounds. A figure of 2.5-3 million
dollars was suggested, though it is the applicant’s understanding is that it would be more
costly to have their own package plant.
Mr. Mundt asked about the number of members in Monticello. The applicant confirmed 700
members (individuals, couples, families) with capacity to have many more. The build-out
number for this site is 1,200 members.
Mr. Mundt questions the operating budget at the Monticello club., however the applicant
cannot share those proprietary details. The applicant replied to his inquiry about private
owner services (Repair shops, maintenance, landscaping, etc.), noting thee compacity to
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bring in motorsports-type businesses and the possibility of private businesses on the property
as long as they’re in the world of motorsports.
Mr. Taylor questioned the County’s authority to limit the number of members they are
allowed to take on. The applicant noted use of a system called “track hero” to track any
information that the County is requesting.
Mr. Benton explained the cap correlates to the intensity of this project, and that although
capping the membership is not necessary limiting the number of people on the property,
however; there is a correlation.
Mr. Binner inquired about whether there is a specified number of concerns regarding traffic
in phase 2. Staff noted the unique nature of the use, and the ability to capture actual data
over a five-year period to refine the traffic impact data.
Ms. Slack explored the term “paddock”, asking the applicant to define it. The applicant
described it as an area where the teams keep their transporters and motor homes before,
during, and after races. There is reserved acreage for each paddock. Ms. Slack and the
applicant discussed noise levels and that the fencing for the animals.
Mr. Binner inquired whether the applicant is comfortable with hours of operation. The
applicant confirmed, yes, for the most part, with some amendments for special events.
Vice-Chair Lounds noted the reference to teen driver training at night was a great idea,
acknowledging the appropriate limited to avoid interference to onsite residences.
Mr. Taylor noted that (AR) a teen camp would be the most likely use for this program.
Mr. Binner sought clarification on the wet pad and launchpad, with the applicant verifying the
use scope for training.
Public Comments:
Rick Modine - 5660 SUMMERLIN RD – A Neighbor of the proposed project, spoke on the
project and the information in the report, suggesting he had no knowledge of the project
being proposed until days before the meeting. He addressed the community report provided,
water management, the bridge to nowhere (near the fairgrounds), and the disappearance of
all the agricultural lands. He suggested the County is pricing out the locals, with all the big
projects that are being approved.
Grayson S Gilbert - 407 FERNANDINA ST – Spoke about the applicant's presentation –
suggesting the project was under the radar. He feels the County was keeping this secret, and
that this is not a good project for the County. He suggested that this project will radiate
beyond the footprint of the project, touching on sound concerns and this affecting future
growth and wildlife, that this is not agricultural.
Clay Yates - 426 Avenue A – Stated his comments piggyback off Mr. Modine, emphasizing
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mitigating noise and light pollution.
Cody Holcomb - 1020 SNEED RD – Addressed the Commission regarding large-scale
developers, touching on the beautiful land that the county has. He wants to preserve the
agricultural lands, addressing the County ordinance(s) on smaller acreage labeled as
agricultural. He referred to a discussion with Mr. Lounds, touching on zoning issues and
hobby farms being priced out.
Mr. Binner addressed the Commission relating to recent development proposals and themes
of moving the Urban Service Boundary, community design with transition and buffering, and
higher density housing in contrast to the proposed project.
The Public Hearing was closed.
RESULT:APPROVE
MOVER:Board Member Ryan Binner
SECONDER:Board Member Ed Lounds
AYES:James A. Taylor, Bob Lowe, Craig Mundt, Ed Lounds, Ryan Binner, Valerie
Slack, Larry Neese
NAYS:None
EXCUSED:None
10.WORKSHOPS
A.Towns, Villages, & Countryside (TVC) Educational Presentation
STAFF PRESENTATION:
Ben Balcer and Kori Benton were present, with Mr. Balcer presenting a hhigh-level overview
of the TVC (Towns, Villages, and Countryside) Overlay and Policy.
Staff engaged in light discussion with board members.
11.OTHER BUSINESS
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12.ADJOURN
The meeting was adjourned around 10:31 PM