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PROPERTY & HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION MEETING
June 8, 2005,..., 9:00 o.m.
3rd Floor
Conference Room 3
PRESS/PUBLIC
AGENDA
1.) Call to Order ~ Commissioner Doug Coward, Chairman
» Pledge of Allegiance
» Self Introduction of Property & Homeowners Representatives and Members of the
Public
2.) Approval of the Minutes of May 11,2005
3.) St. Lucie County Sheriff's Office Report by Captain Graves or Deputy Gonsalves
4.) Guest Speaker and Topic of Discussion:
A.) Hamilton "Buck" Oven, Program Administrator with the Department of
Environmental Protection in Tallahassee will provide a presentation on Coal Fired
power plants
5.) Old Business ~ There is no old business
6.) New Business ~ St. Lucie County Public Safety staff will provide an update on hurricane
preparedness at next month's meeting.
7.) Adjournment
Please note, the next meeting will be July 13, 2005
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DRAFT
ST. LUCIE COUNTY
PROPERTY AND HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION
Minutes of Meeting
May 11,2005
Convened: 9:00a.m.
Adlourned: 11 :25a.m.
This meeting of the Property and Homeowners Association was held Wednesday, May 11,2005 at
9:00a.m. in Conference Room #3 of the St. Lucie County Administration Annex Building, 2300
Virginia Avenue, Fort Pierce, FL 34982.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Charlie Brown, Indian River Estates
Craig Mundt, North Beach Association
Bob Bangert, Holiday Pines Homeowners Association
Frank Monteleone, Spanish Lakes Country Club Village
Charles Grande, Presidents Council of S Hutchinson Island
Bill Hammer, PGA Village
Kit Linberger, Palm Grove
Christiane Mollet, Indian River Drive Freeholders
Frank Guarascio, Villages of Sand Piper Bay
ALSO PRESENT: Commissioner Doug Coward, District 2
Charline Burgess, Aide to Commissioner Coward
Liz Martin, Aide to Commissioner Hutchinson
Faye Outlaw, Assistant County AdministratorlInterim G.M. Dir.
Linette Trabulsy, Public Information Officer
Shane DeWitt, Technical Operations Manager, SLCTV
Erick Gill, Media Specialist
Jody Bonet, Transit Manager
Sandy Gilfillan, Executive Secretary
Dennis Grim, Code Compliance Manager/Building Official
Dennis Bunt, Code Enforcement Supervisor
Melissa Corwell, Mitigation Specialist/Div. Of Forestry
Derrek Foxx, St. Lucie County Fire District
Sargeant William Radke, S.L. Co. Sheriffs Dept.
Deputy Leroy Davis, S.L. Co. Sheriffs Dept.
Winston Shelton, Parks Edge HOA in PSL
Bonnie "Toni" Trabolsi, Villas Sandpiper Bay HOA in PSL
Betty Bennett, Palm Grove
Tom Linberger, Fort Pierce
Kathryne Leavy, Spanish Lakes Country Club
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CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 9:00A.M. Commissioner Coward led the Association in the
Pledge of Allegiance. The Homeowners representatives and the public in attendance gave self-
introductions.
APPROV AL OF THE MINUTES OF APRIL 13, 2005
Bob Bangert moved to approve the minutes of April 13 , 2005. Charlie Brown seconded the motion
and the approval carried unanimously by voice vote.
ST. LUCIE COUNTY SHERIFFS REPORT
Deputy Leroy Davis announced that the Sheriff s office would be hosting an event on May 16th, from
7pm to 8pm on Milner Road for Indian River Estates problems with mailbox thefts.
Commissioner Coward stated that we had tried to get the Department of Environmental Protection
(DEP) expert on coal burning plants for the May meeting, but because oftime restraints that would
be on our June agenda. The back up plan was to get staff from Public Safety to speak on the
upcoming hurricane season but because of a National Hurricane Conference this week, staff has
agreed to speak at the July meeting. He said that he was sorry that Ms. Severino was not here today
to hear Mr. Grim's presentation because of the on-going problems in her community.
ITEM 4 ~ GUEST SPEAKERS AND TOPICS OF DISCUSSION
A. >- Linette Trabulsy, Public Information Officer~ update on St. Lucie County's Centennial
Celebration
Ms. Trabusy gave a brief overview and gave a power-point presentation about the County's
Centennial Celebration on July 2, 2005, at the St. Lucie County Fairgrounds. After the presentation,
she provided some historical events that St. Lucie County has been involved with. She said that
there is more information on the County's web site and the link is www.stlucicco.2ov/centennial.
She said that as Public Information officer, she sends out Notices to the Press and Public, and that
if anyone would like to be notified of upcoming news releases to contact her at 462-1791 or by e-
mail TrabulsL(ii>,co.st-lucie.fl.us or leave their e-mail address with Charline Burgess.
B. >Melissa Corwell, Mitigation Specialist with the Division of Forestry presented a brief
video on "How to Have A Firewize Home". Derrick Foxx with the St. Lucie Co. Fire Dept. was
present for questions.
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Ms. Corwell stated that she is trying to get the word out for the Division of Forestry about wildfires
and keeping your homes safe from fire. After the video she said that the videos could be obtained
free of charge, by calling her at (772) 219-1248. She said that Florida is different than any other
state because "green" burns. She noted that Palmetto's and Malalueca trees are the worse kind to
have around your home. She said that the theme of their T.V. and radio show commercials are going
to be "shared responsibility," in that the Division ofF orestry needs everyone's help in order for them
to help you. She told the group that she would be happy to come to their Homeowners Associations
meetings to speak about this.
Mr. Bill Hammer commended the Fire Department and the Division of Forestry for their fast action
and quick arrival time, in putting out the fire in the Reserve last year. He said that the fire was
started by a train creating a "spark" on the tracks. He said that he agreed with the controlled burns,
but not the developer burns where the pile smolders for days and days.
Mr. Craig Mundt asked Mr. Foxx whether or not there are prohibitions for fires on the beach. He
said that he was told by someone at the fire department that fires were allowed.
Mr. Foxx said that fires are prohibited on the beach and that he would check into Mr. Mundt's
question. He said the number to call is 462-8306 during the week or call 911 after hours.
C. >Jody Bonet, Trasit Manager with St. Lucie County ~ Presentation on homeowner
responsibilities after a disaster
Ms. Bonet said that the purpose of being here today was to acquaint the members with the operations
of the Community Services department of the county and it's responsibilities during and after a
disaster. In addition, she said that they would like to encourage homeowner associations to be the
first responders for your neighbors. After a disaster, the Community Services Department will set
up a phone bank to receive calls from residents and volunteers. The phone number is (772) 462-
3065.
Mr. Hammer suggested that these recommendations be made electronically. He also would like the
county to include a requirement of a new development that a safe venue for residents be made
available in case of a disaster.
Ms. Bonet said that she agreed with Mr. Hammer, as most residents would want a shelter close to
their homes so that they would feel safer. She said that the Community Services link is on the
County's home page.
D. >Dennis Grim, Code Compliance Manager/Building Official and Dennis Bunt, Code
Enforcement Supervisor ~ Update on building permitting.
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Mr. Grim presented an updated report and power-point presentation on rebuilding from the
hurricanes. He provided a copy of the presentation to the group and as back-up material for the
minutes.
Mr. Grim said that reasons for the increase in time for issuing permits are:
>-High demand for permits due to the County recovering from two direct hits from hurricanes;
:> A new software program has been implemented that has slowed down the permitting process;
:> Permit applications have more than doubled for the same period a year ago, even though they are
issuing almost twice as many permits for the same period a year ago, there is still a backlog;
:> The county continues to grow and the demand for permits is increasing.
Mr. Grim said the reason for the increased time for issuing permits is that St. Lucie County is a "One
Stop" shop for processing permits. Once submitted it stays within the department to perform zoning;
contractor licensing; plans examining; storm water and fire department review. Other building
departments deal only with processing and issuing of permits. They require that all departments sign
offbefore the permit can be submitted. As far as the delay with mobile home permits, he said that
St. Lucie County has more mobile home units than Martin and Indian River Counties combined. He
said that as of April 30, 2005 a total of 15,322 building permits have been issued in seven months
as compared to 14,352 for all oflast year. He said that hopefully in two weeks the roof permits will
all be done.
Mr. Monteleone said that one of the biggest problems he has is that the owners of his park, Wynne
Building Corp., is pressuring the residents with a 45 day time period, when it takes 6 to 8 months
to get the work done. He said that 45 days is an impossibility, and that he knew it did not fall under
the County's jurisdiction, but it is really leaving them high and dry. He said that he has waited six
months to have a roof put on his Florida room.
Mr. Grim said that he agreed with him and after the presentation, he said he would show Mr.
Monteleone what they are doing to "step up" to help the industry to get the permits out quicker. He
said that homeowners were also receiving false information from contractors blaming it on the
building department.
Commissioner Coward told Mr. Grim that he had received dozens of calls from homeowners that
have complained that their work isn't being done because their permits are being held up by the
building department. He said that every time he or Charline checked on their permit, the permit had
been issued, and that the contractor was using the building department as an excuse for them not
getting out there doing the work.
Mr. Hammer commended Mr. Grim and his department for doing a tremendous job. He said that
there is no reason that they should have to take the abuse given to them by people that are waiting.
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Mr. Grim said that his staff is fantastic! He said that no one likes to wait in line, but by the time
these folks get to the permitting window, they are ready to fight. He said that his staff works after
hours and gives up their Saturdays to try and get caught up. They will be closed on Fridays through
the month of May to get caught up, and so far it's working. He said that there is a way that the
public can help decrease the permitting process time. Make sure you have a licensed contractor who
is registered and is current with their insurance, if you are not sure, call 462-1672. Pick up your
permit the day your are notified by the permitting office. He said that contractors must take
responsibility to submit their permits before they need to start the work in order to stay within the
building department's processing time and the demand for permits.
Commissioner Coward asked Mr. Grim how many staff members he has performing inspections?
Mr. Grim said that at this point in time, he has twelve inspectors performing inspections. He said
that they have right around 400 inspection requests a day, but they are keeping up with the demand.
There is no two to three week waiting period. He said that there has been a back log of roofing
inspections, but that the number one concern for him is to get the dry-in inspection done. The final
roof inspection is not as important and they are filled in as the inspector has time. He said that they
are caught up on these inspections.
Mr. Grim said that the Commissioners have been a lot of help by approving new positions and a new
permitting area, which is where the Parks and Recreation Department area used to be. This will add
another 2400 square feet of space. He also said that there is a staff member on site from the Clerk
of Court to speed up the permit process. He said that he has made positive changes within the
department to meet the needs of the public.
Commissioner Coward confirmed that he has been down in their department and has seen Mr.
Grim's staff working as late as 6 or 7 0' clock in the evening.
Mr. Charlie Brown brought up questions about aluminum permits. Discussion ensued regarding
permits for mobile homes i.e. aluminum carports, sidings and roofs.
Mr. Grim said that they do issue over-the-counter permits. They are roofing; electrical; plumbing;
air conditioning and for aluminum carport repairs. He then restated the things that the public can
do to help speed up the permitting process.
Commissioner Coward asked Mr. Grim to give a brief overview regarding contractors doing shoddy
work, or working without a license and insurance. He said that there is recourse for residents
through the Contractor's Licensing Board (C.L. Board.)
Mr. Dennis Bunt explained that the Contractors Licensing Division has the authority to make sure
that contractors follow all the regulations and codes. The contractor can be brought before the
Contractor's Licensing Board (C.L. Board) for infractions. He said that monies cannot be returned
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to a resident, that is a civil matter, but if you're not sure whether or not a contractor is licensed and
insured, take the time to call, it could save you time and money in the end. The number is 462-1672.
Charles Grande asked how many contractors had lost their license or been suspended in the past
year?
Mr. Bunt stated that last year there was seven, and one lost his license completely. He said this year
there were eight disciplinary actions that have come before the board. Discussion ensued regarding
the type of infractions that come before the C.L. Board.
Mr. Frank Guarascio asked Mr. Grim to state his jurisdiction area as there were Port St. Lucie
residents at the meeting.
Mr. Grim stated that his jurisdiction is over the unincorporated St. Lucie County, not the City of Port
St. Lucie, or Fort Pierce. Discussion ensued regarding the boundaries ofthe County and the City of
Port St. Lucie.
Sargent William Radke stated that he wanted to address the civil action that can be taken against
contractors working without a license and insurance. He said that contracting without a license is
a crime in the State of Florida and should be reported to law enforcement. Regarding mitigation and
civil issues, the Florida Attorney General's office has a program called Seniors vs Crime. The
telephone number is (772) 871-5350 and they can act as a mitigator between the contractor and the
person that is trying to get the work done. He said if that doesn't work, there is recourse further up
the ladder with the Sheriff and the Attorney General's office.
Commissioner Coward asked Sargent Radke ifhe would try and make sure that information is given
to the county's public information officer so that it can be put on the County's web site so that she
can get it out to the public for easy access.
Sargent Radke said that he could do that. He further explained limitations that contractors have on
the time limit on contracts. Discussion ensued regarding down payments to contractors and paying
before the final inspection has been done by the building department. For more information, or
further questions, Sargent Radke said he could be reached at (772)871-5303.
There was a general discussion between the group and Mr. Grim regarding the length of time a
permit is good for before it expires, and that there may be extenuating circumstances where the
building official can extend the time line on the permit.
Mr. Mundt asked why a deputy has been in the building department.
Mr. Bunt said that some residents became irate with the long wait and threats were made against
employees.
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ITEM 5- OLD BUSINESS
There was no discussion on old business.
ITEM 6 ~ NEW BUSINESS
Commissioner Coward stated that the topics of discussion have already been prioritized by having
the DEP expert on coal-fired power plants coming in next month and then have staff from Public
Safety the following month to speak about the upcoming hurricane season. He said that he would
like to open this part of the meeting up for general discussion.
Mr. Mundt asked whether or not the proposed Fort Pierce Utilities Authority (FPUA) power plant
will have any effect on the County.
Commissioner Coward stated that FPUA would be locating that facility to a heavy industrial area
that had a previously approved plant on it. It was the Duke power plant site which is over by the
landfill. He said that in his opinion, this type of plant is far preferable than the coal burning facility
that FP &L is proposing. He said that he has a much more favorable opinion of a natural gas burning
plant in a heavy industrial area rather than a coal burning plant.
Mr. Mundt said that he would like to get a briefing on Economic Development in the County.
Commissioner Coward agreed. He said that is a critical issue not only in the County, but the whole
State. He explained the incentives offered to new businesses and discussion ensued regarding the
new Research Park.
There was a general discussion with Commissioner Coward regarding the Board of Education and
concerns that were brought up by Mr. Guarascio in that he would like someone from the school
board to attend a homeowners meeting and answer their questions.
Commissioner Coward said that he thought it would be more appropriate for the individual
homeowners to contact the school board and request an opportunity to meet with them. He said they
are already going around the community holding public workshops. Discussion ensued.
Mr. Monteleone said that FP&L is going around the county talking in favor of the coal-fired plant.
He asked Commissioner Coward if six months down the road, residents find out they are ready to
go, would time be a problem?
Commissioner Coward said that he has made it clear to FP&L that he is not a supporter of the plant,
but he said he does not have any ill feelings toward them, nor does he want them to waste a bunch
of money on a plant, that he personally, does not want to see built. He said that he has told them
"up-front" that he would prefer that we stop their coal plant as soon as possible so that they can get
re-directed to an alternative clean fuel. He said that he is not opposed to a cleaner burning plant in
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an appropriate location if it does not have a detrimental effect on the community and has a positive
effect on our tax base. He said that he would certainly consider that, although we need to look at the
total number of plants we want in our community, it should not be a "free for all" here. He said it
is just his opinion, but FP&L still has to get approval on a rezoning for this property and that would
be your first opportunity to send them the message that St. Lucie County does not want coal burning
plants in this community. He said that he is only speaking for himself, that he has four other fellow
commissioners that might feel differently. Discussion ensued.
Mr. Grande suggested that Commissioner Coward ask Bill Summers, an FP&L retiree & consultant,
about speaking to the group. He was the project manager for their last coal-fired plant project and
might be an objective person to speak with.
Commissioner Coward said that a couple of issues have come into the picture. If the county is going
to pay a consultant to come in, it should be a county-wide project, such as a public workshop, not
just someone speaking with the homeowners group. Discussion ensued.
Mr. Hammer voiced his concerns about the value to this group being deluded by opening it up on
a much broader basis, because the members would not have the personal interaction as in the smaller
meeting. He also said that if you bring in a bigger group, you are going to have people access that
meeting that have their own agenda's to run and will take up a lot of time.
Mr. Mundt reminded the group that there is a Board workshop coming up on May 23rd with FP&L
at 2:00 p.m.
Commissioner Coward said that ideally, this would have been the time to have the independent
speaker "tagged" onto that workshop.
Discussion ensued between Commissioner Coward and the group regarding neighborhood schools,
public transit, bicycle paths, sidewalks and bussing.
Commissioner Coward touched on the issue of concurrency and how critical it is when a developer
asks for approval to build, they are required to have sufficient capacity, such as roads to handle the
amount of car trips that will come off that road. He said there is an "option" of making schools a
concurrency law as part of the approval process. He said that he would like to have Palm Beach
County Commissioner, Karen Markus come in and speak with the group.
Ms. Kit Linberger said that she did not understand how you can have growth management without
having the school and transportation system as part of it. She also said that hurricane shelters is
another thing that should be looked at with new development.
Commissioner Coward said that Development of Regional Impact's (DRl's) that come in for
approval, have a demand within that approval that hurricane space be provided. Discussion ensued.
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It was also announced that there would be a Work Force Housing workshop with the Board on June
6,2005.
ADJOURNMENT
Having no further business to discuss, Commissioner Coward thanked the group for their attendance,
cå.nd adjourned the meeting at 11 :25 a.m.
THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE HELD WEDNESDAY, JUNE 8, 2005 AT 9:00 A.M.
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COMMUNITY SERVICES
MEMORANDUM #05-95
FROM:
Commissioner Coward and Homeowners Association
Jody Bonet and Sandra Gilfillan, Community Services ~ Ai
Hurricane Preparedness
TO:
SUBJECT:
Beth Ryder, Community Services Director is responsible to the Emergency Operations Center to
coordinate volunteers and donations during hurricane recovery. During this past season, we
unfortunately had more calls for help and much fewer volunteers to assist.
The purpose of our being here today is to acquaint you with the operations of the Community
Services Department ofthe County and it's responsibilities during a disaster. In addition, we
would like to encourage homeowner associations to be the first responders for your neighbors.
The Community Services Department will set up a phone bank to receive calls from residents and
volunteers. The phone number will be 462-3065.
Our department and its staff members are actively involved in preparing Hurricane Relief
strategies. Your cooperation and input could be of valuable assistance during a disaster. We
request your participation to establish contacts within your homeowners who may be willing to
provide immediate assistance to neighbors in your area and bring those concerns as their
representative to our attention.
If someone in your area needs medical attention, shelter, water, ice, food or whatever else,
designated persons in your immediate area can act as a contact for them and bring those needs to
our attention or resolve them with assistance from your neighbors. By having your group of
neighbors meet to discuss Hurricane Preparedness and their roles would assist in getting attention
immediately and assessing the damages, and necessary needs. This type of information would be
invaluable to our EOC operations. The designated persons can then relay that information to us
which would be passed on to the correct entity that can respond.
Another issue could be to designate certain individuals to pickup immediate items and distribute
them among your neighbors, such as ice, water, etc. This might cut down on the long lines we all
experienced this past September. It may also be possible that we could establish certain areas for
distributions to homeowner groups and cut down on the long wait this way. We will be looking for
possible solutions so it is important for you to provide your contact information to Community
Services at 462-3065.
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Homeowner Associations could prepare and recover by following these simple
recommendations:
· Host a hurricane preparedness meeting (discuss stocking with water, flashlights, batteries,
food, etc.);
· Call 461-5201 to invite a St. Lucie County Emergency Management official to a meeting
to learn more information and suggested ways to help you prepare and recover from
hurricanes;
· Identify where your neighbors will be during the storms (out of Florida, at family /hotel
out of the County, at a special needs shelter, at a shelter, at current residence);
· Make a list of contact information for the residences and if possible emergency contact
information for your own use;
· Identify who can help after the storms to resolve many different needs (manual support
(removal of trees and inside debris); emotional support; phone support (call other family
members to report situation); babysitting support so a parent can get back to work; etc;
· Determine who will need help with shutters and generators;
· Provide at least three contact numbers to the County Community Services Department so
we may refer calls that we receive in your neighborhood;
· Call to the 462-3065 County phone bank number after the hurricane and report what
damage and needs your neighbors may have and explain which ones you can solve and
which ones need outside assistance (tree removal, power outage, medical equipment, ice,
water etc.).
· Always call 911 if there is a medical emergency;
· If your neighborhood is fine, please call to volunteer to help another area of the County
that may have been damaged.
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RESUME
HAMILTON S. OVEN, P.E.
(known as Buck)
JOB TITLE:
EDUCATION:
EXPERIENCE:
Program Administrator
BCE - Sanitary Engineering - University of Florida 1964
ME - Environmental Engineering - UF (Primary Major - Air
Pollution Control) 1968
Short Courses in - Field Enforcement of Air Pollution,
Visible Emissions Evaluation, Air Dispersion Modeling,
Design of Residential Canals and Marinas
Epidemiology of Electric and Magnetic Fields
Biological Effects of EMF
Co-operative Student FL DOT 1960-1962
Active duty U.S. Army 1965-67 - 2LT/ILT
Engineering Trainee FL DOT 2/67 - 8/67
General Engineer - U.S. Federal Power Commission - one year
Air Pollution Control Engineer - Jacksonville, FL - 16 months
Water Pollution Control Engineer - Jacksonville, FL - 9 months
Bio-Environmental Engineer (Director of Air and Water Pollution
Control) two years - Jacksonville, FL
Deputy Executive Director - Florida Department of Pollution Control
- 14 months 4/73 - 6/74
Professional Engineer & Program Administrator - Siting Coordination
Office Dept of Pollution Control - Dept of Environmental Regulation
- Department of Environmental Protection - June 1974 to present
AREAS OF EXPERTISE: Energy Facility Siting
Power Plant Siting
Air Pollution Control
Water Pollution Control
Transmission Line Siting
Sanitary Engineering
Electric and Magnetic Fields
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Charline Burgess - Coal fired Power Plant Meeting
From:
To:
Date:
Subject:
"Oven, Hamilton" <Hamilton.Oven@dep.state.fl.us>
<cburgess@co.st-lucie.fl.us>
4/27/200511:58 AM
Coal fired Power Plant Meeting
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DEP's Siting Office Web site is http://www.dep.state.fI.us
850 245-8002
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June 8, 2005
Commissioner Coward and HOA representatives:
New order of speakers and topics of discussion that were requested at the May meeting.
1.) Hurricane Awareness & Emergency Shelters in St. Lucie County (Public Safety will
address these issues at the July 13th HOA meeting)
2.) Update on Economic Development
3.) An update on the Civic Center (information will not be available for a few more months.
4.) Temporary Housing (there will be a workshop with the BOCC 6/6/05 at 9 a.m.)
5.) Rebuilding of Roads and Swales
6.) Update on new codes for billboards and political signs
7.) Building Official to speak regarding concurrency fees
Thanks,
Charline
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M.J' 24, 2005
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I. Meeting Changes:
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May 31, 2005 is a 5th Tuesday. There is no Board of County Commissioners meeting scheduled.
The June 21, 2005 Board of County Commissioners meeting is canceled.
The July 5, 2005 Board of County Commissioners meeting is canceled.
The July 12, 2005 Board of County Commissioners meeting will begin at 2:00 p.m. adjourn 4:00 p.m.
and reconvene at 6:00 p.m.
The July 19, 2005 Board of County Commissioners meeting is canceled.
November 15, 2005 Board of County Commissioners Reorganization meeting will be at 9:00 a.m.
The December 27, 2005 Board of County Commissioners meeting is canceled.
5. The Board of County Commissioners will old a WorRshop on WorRforce Housing on Monday, June 6, 2005
from 9:00 a.m. to 11:00 a.m. in the St. Lucie County Commission Chambers.
6. The Board of County Commissioners, and the City of Port St. Lucie Council will hold a Joint Meeting on Impact
Fees on Monday, June 6, 2005 at the City of Port St. Lucie Community Center, 2195 Airoso Boulevard, Port St.
Lucie, Florida from 2:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m.
7. The Board of County Commissioners, the Research and Education ParR Steering Committee, and the City of
Fort Pierce will hold a WorRshop on Tuesday, June 7, 2005 at the USDA Horticulture Research Lab, 2001 S.
RocR Road, Fort Pierce, Florida from 2:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m.
.. The Special Olympics, St. Lucie County Golf Tournament will be hosted on Saturday, June 11, 2005 at Club Med
at 8:00 a.m. (Shot Gun). For more information please contact Diana Mitchell 462-1683.
.. The Board of County Commissioner will hold the Towns, Villages and Country Side Element WorRshop on
Monday, June 13, 2005 from 4:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. in the St. lucie County Commission Chambers.
10. The Board of County Commissioners will hold a Ground BreaRing Ceremony for S. 25th Street at the intersection
of S. 25th Street and Midway Road, on Friday, Jùly 1, 2005 at 10:00 a.m.
II. The St. Lucie County Centennial Celebration will be held on July 2, 2005 at the St. Lucie County Fairgrounds
from 11:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m.
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12. The Board of County Commissioners, City of Fort Pierce Commission, and the City of Port St. Lucie Council will
hold a Joint Meeting on Monday, August 29, 2005 at the City of Fort Pierce Commission Chambers first floor,
100 N. US Hwy. 1, Fort Pierce, Florida 34950 from 2:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m.
IS. The Board of County Commissioners will hold a WorRshop with Martin County on Tuesday, August 30, 2005
from 9:00 a.m. to noon at the Martin County Commission Chambers located at 2401 SE Monterey Road, Stuart.
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PROPERTY & HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION MEETING
June 8, 2005 ,..., 9:00 a.m.
3rd Floor
Conference Room 3
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1.) Call to Order ~ Commissioner Doug Coward, Chairman
» Pledge of Allegiance
» Self Introduction of Property & Homeowners Representatives and Members of the
Public
2.) Approval of the Minutes of May 11, 2005
3.) St. Lucie County Sheriff's Office Report by Captain Graves or Deputy Gonsalves
4.) Guest Speaker and Topic of Discussion:
A.) Hamilton "Buck" Oven, Program Administrator with the Department of
Environmental Protection in Tallahassee will provide a presentation on Coal Fired
power plants
5.) Old Business ~ There is no old business
6.) New Business ~ St. Lucie County Public Safety staff will provide an update on hurricane
preparedness at next month's meeting.
7.) Adjournment
Please note, the next meeting will be July 13, 2005
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ST. LUCIE COUNTY
PROPERTY AND HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION
Minutes of Meeting
May 11, 2005
Convened: 9:00a.m.
Adlourned: 11 :25a.m.
This meeting of the Property and Homeowners Association was held Wednesday, May 11,2005 at
9:00a.m. in Conference Room #3 of the St. Lucie County Administration Annex Building, 2300
Virginia Avenue, Fort Pierce, FL 34982.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Charlie Brown, Indian River Estates
Craig Mundt, North Beach Association
Bob Bangert, Holiday Pines Homeowners Association
Frank Monteleone, Spanish Lakes Country Club Village
Charles Grande, Presidents Council of S Hutchinson Island
Bill Hammer, PGA Village
Kit Linberger, Palm Grove
Christiane Mollet, Indian River Drive Freeholders
Frank Guarascio, Villages of Sand Piper Bay
ALSO PRESENT: Commissioner Doug Coward, District 2
Charline Burgess, Aide to Commissioner Coward
Liz Martin, Aide to Commissioner Hutchinson
Faye Outlaw, Assistant County AdministratorlInterim G.M. Dir.
Linette Trabulsy, Public Information Officer
Shane DeWitt, Technical Operations Manager, SLCTV
Erick Gill, Media Specialist
Jody Bonet, Transit Manager
Sandy Gilfillan, Executive Secretary
Dennis Grim, Code Compliance Manager/Building Official
Dennis Bunt, Code Enforcement Supervisor
Melissa Corwell, Mitigation Specialist/Div. Of Forestry
Derrek Foxx, St. Lucie County Fire District
Sargeant William Radke, S.L. Co. Sheriffs Dept.
Deputy Leroy Davis, S.L. Co. Sheriffs Dept.
Winston Shelton, Parks Edge HOA in PSL
Bonnie "Toni" Trabolsi, Villas Sandpiper Bay HOA in PSL
Betty Bennett, Palm Grove
Tom Linberger, Fort Pierce
Kathryne Leavy, Spanish Lakes Country Club
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CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 9:00A.M. Commissioner Coward led the Association in the
Pledge of Allegiance. The Homeowners representatives and the public in attendance gave self-
introductions.
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF APRIL 13, 2005
Bob Bangert moved to approve the minutes of April 13 , 2005. Charlie Brown seconded the motion
and the approval carried unanimously by voice vote.
ST. LUCIE COUNTY SHERIFFS REPORT
Deputy Leroy Davis announced that the Sheriff s office would be hosting an event on May 16th, from
7pm to 8pm on Milner Road for Indian River Estates problems with mailbox thefts.
Commissioner Coward stated that we had tried to get the Department of Environmental Protection
(D EP) expert on coal burning plants for the May meeting, but because of time restraints that would
be on our June agenda. The back up plan was to get staff from Public Safety to speak on the
upcoming hurricane season but because of a National Hurricane Conference this week, staff has
agreed to speak at the July meeting. He said that he was sorry that Ms. Severino was not here today
to hear Mr. Grim's presentation because of the on-going problems in her community.
ITEM 4 ~ GUEST SPEAKERS AND TOPICS OF DISCUSSION
A.:> Linette Trabulsy, Public Information Officer~ update on St. Lucie County's Centennial
Celebration
Ms. Trabusy gave a brief overview and gave a power-point presentation about the County's
Centennial Celebration on July 2,2005, at the St. Lucie County Fairgrounds. After the presentation,
she provided some historical events that St. Lucie County has been involved with. She said that
there is more information on the County's web site and the link is www.stlucicco.~,wv/centcnnial.
She said that as Public Information officer, she sends out Notices to the Press and Public, and that
if anyone would like to be notified of upcoming news releases to contact her at 462-1791 or by e-
mail Trabulsl..lCiÙco.st-lucic.fl.us or leave their e-mail address with Charline Burgess.
B. :>Melissa Corwell, Mitigation Specialist with the Division of Forestry presented a brief
video on "How to Have A Firewize Home". Derrick Foxx with the St. Lucie Co. Fire Dept. was
present for questions.
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Ms. Corwell stated that she is trying to get the word out for the Division of Forestry about wildfires
and keeping your homes safe from fire. After the video she said that the videos could be obtained
free of charge, by calling her at (772) 219-1248. She said that Florida is dìfferent than any other
state because "green" burns. She noted that Palmetto's and Malalueca trees are the worse kind to
have around your home. She said that the theme of their T.V. and radio show commercials are going
to be "shared responsibility," in that the Division ofF orestry needs everyone's help in order for them
to help you. She told the group that she would be happy to come to their Homeowners Associations
meetings to speak about this.
Mr. Bill Hammer commended the Fire Department and the Division of Forestry for their fast action
and quick arrival time, in putting out the fire in the Reserve last year. He said that the fire was
started by a train creating a "spark" on the tracks. He said that he agreed with the controlled burns,
but not the developer burns where the pile smolders for days and days.
Mr. Craig Mundt asked Mr. Foxx whether or not there are prohibitions for fires on the beach. He
said that he was told by someone at the fire department that fires were allowed.
Mr. Foxx said that fires are prohibited on the beach and that he would check into Mr. Mundt's
question. He said the number to call is 462-8306 during the week or call 911 after hours.
C. :>Jody Bonet, Trasit Manager with St. Lucie County ~ Presentation on homeowner
responsibilities after a disaster
Ms. Bonet said that the purpose of being here today was to acquaint the members with the operations
of the Community Services department of the county and it's responsibilities during and after a
disaster. In addition, she said that they would like to encourage homeowner associations to be the
first responders for your neighbors. After a disaster, the Community Services Department will set
up a phone bank to receive calls from residents and volunteers. The phone number is (772) 462-
3065.
Mr. Hammer suggested that these recommendations be made electronically. He also would like the
county to include a requirement of a new development that a safe venue for residents be made
available in case of a disaster.
Ms. Bonet said that she agreed with Mr. Hammer, as most residents would want a shelter close to
their homes so that they would feel safer. She said that the Community Services link is on the
County's home page.
D. :>Dennis Grim, Code Compliance Manager/Building Official and Dennis Bunt, Code
Enforcement Supervisor - Update on building permitting.
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Mr. Grim presented an updated report and power-point presentation on rebuilding from the
hurricanes. He provided a copy of the presentation to the group and as back-up material for the
minutes.
Mr. Grim said that reasons for the increase in time for issuing permits are:
:>High demand for permits due to the County recovering from two direct hits from hurricanes;
:> A new software program has been implemented that has slowed down the permitting process;
:> Permit applications have more than doubled for the same period a year ago, even though they are
issuing almost twice as many permits for the same period a year ago, there is still a backlog;
:>The county continues to grow and the demand for permits is increasing.
Mr. Grim said the reason for the increased time for issuing permits is that St. Lucie County is a "One
Stop" shop for processing permits. Once submitted it stays within the department to perform zoning;
contractor licensing; plans examining; storm water and fire department review. Other building
departments deal only with processing and issuing of permits. They require that all departments sign
off before the permit can be submitted. As far as the delay with mobile home permits, he said that
St. Lucie County has more mobile home units than Martin and Indian River Counties combined. He
said that as of April 30, 2005 a total of 15,322 building permits have been issued in seven months
as compared to 14,352 for all oflast year. He said that hopefully in two weeks the roof permits will
all be done.
Mr. Monteleone said that one of the biggest problems he has is that the owners of his park, Wynne
Building Corp., is pressuring the residents with a 45 day time period, when it takes 6 to 8 months
to get the work done. He said that 45 days is an impossibility, and that he knew it did not fall under
the County's jurisdiction, but it is really leaving them high and dry. He said that he has waited six
months to have a roof put on his Florida room.
Mr. Grim said that he agreed with him and after the presentation, he said he would show Mr.
Monteleone what they are doing to "step up" to help the industry to get the permits out quicker. He
said that homeowners were also receiving false information from contractors blaming it on the
building department.
Commissioner Coward told Mr. Grim that he had received dozens of calls from homeowners that
have complained that their work isn't being done because their permits are being held up by the
building department. He said that every time he or Charline checked on their permit, the permit had
been issued, and that the contractor was using the building department as an excuse for them not
getting out there doing the work.
Mr. Hammer commended Mr. Grim and his department for doing a tremendous job. He said that
there is no reason that they should have to take the abuse given to them by people that are waiting.
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Mr. Grim said that his staff is fantastic! He said that no one likes to wait in line, but by the time
these folks get to the permitting window, they are ready to fight. He said that his staff works after
hours and gives up their Saturdays to try and get caught up. They will be closed on Fridays through
the month of May to get caught up, and so far it's working. He said that there is a way that the
public can help decrease the permitting process time. Make sure you have a licensed contractor who
is registered and is current with their insurance, if you are not sure, call 462-1672. Pick up your
permit the day your are notified by the permitting office. He said that contractors must take
responsibility to submit their permits before they need to start the work in order to stay within the
building department's processing time and the demand for permits.
Commissioner Coward asked Mr. Grim how many staff members he has performing inspections?
Mr. Grim said that at this point in time, he has twelve inspectors performing inspections. He said
that they have right around 400 inspection requests a day, but they are keeping up with the demand.
There is no two to three week waiting period. He said that there has been a back log of roofing
inspections, but that the number one concern for him is to get the dry-in inspection done. The final
roof inspection is not as important and they are filled in as the inspector has time. He said that they
are caught up on these inspections.
Mr. Grim said that the Commissioners have been a lot of help by approving new positions and a new
permitting area, which is where the Parks and Recreation Department area used to be. This will add
another 2400 square feet of space. He also said that there is a staff member on site from the Clerk
of Court to speed up the permit process. He said that he has made positive changes within the
department to meet the needs of the public.
Commissioner Coward confirmed that he has been down in their department and has seen Mr.
Grim's staff working as late as 6 or 7 o'clock in the evening.
Mr. Charlie Brown brought up questions about aluminum permits. Discussion ensued regarding
permits for mobile homes i.e. aluminum carports, sidings and roofs.
Mr. Grim said that they do issue over-the-counter permits. They are roofing; electrical; plumbing;
air conditioning and for aluminum carport repairs. He then restated the things that the public can
do to help speed up the permitting process.
Commissioner Coward asked Mr. Grim to give a brief overview regarding contractors doing shoddy
work, or working without a license and insurance. He said that there is recourse for residents
through the Contractor's Licensing Board (C.L. Board.)
Mr. Dennis Bunt explained that the Contractors Licensing Division has the authority to make sure
that contractors follow all the regulations and codes. The contractor can be brought before the
Contractor's Licensing Board (C.L. Board) for infractions. He said that monies cannot be returned
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to a resident, that is a civil matter, but if you're not sure whether or not a contractor is licensed and
insured, take the time to call, it could save you time and money in the end. The number is 462-1672.
Charles Grande asked how many contractors had lost their license or been suspended in the past
year?
Mr. Bunt stated that last year there was seven, and one lost his license completely. He said this year
there were eight disciplinary actions that have come before the board. Discussion ensued regarding
the type of infractions that come before the c.L. Board.
Mr. Frank Guarascio asked Mr. Grim to state his jurisdiction area as there were Port St. Lucie
residents at the meeting.
Mr. Grim stated that his jurisdiction is over the unincorporated St. Lucie County, not the City of Port
St. Lucie, or Fort Pierce. Discussion ensued regarding the boundaries ofthe County and the City of
Port St. Lucie.
Sargent William Radke stated that he wanted to address the civil action that can be taken against
contractors working without a license and insurance. He said that contracting without a license is
a crime in the State of Florida and should be reported to law enforcement. Regarding mitigation and
civil issues, the Florida Attorney General's office has a program called Seniors vs Crime. The
telephone number is (772) 871-5350 and they can act as a mitigator between the contractor and the
person that is trying to get the work done. He said if that doesn't work, there is recourse further up
the ladder with the Sheriff and the Attorney General's office.
Commissioner Coward asked Sargent Radke ifhe would try and make sure that information is given
to the county's public information officer so that it can be put on the County's website so that she
can get it out to the public for easy access.
Sargent Radke said that he could do that. He further explained limitations that contractors have on
the time limit on contracts. Discussion ensued regarding down payments to contractors and paying
before the final inspection has been done by the building department. For more information, or
further questions, Sargent Radke said he could be reached at (772)871-5303.
There was a general discussion between the group and Mr. Grim regarding the length of time a
permit is good for before it expires, and that there may be extenuating circumstances where the
building official can extend the time line on the permit.
Mr. Mundt asked why a deputy has been in the building department.
Mr. Bunt said that some residents became irate with the long wait and threats were made against
employees.
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ITEM 5~ OLD BUSINESS
There was no discussion on old business.
ITEM 6 ~ NEW BUSINESS
Commissioner Coward stated that the topics of discussion have already been prioritized by having
the DEP expert on coal-fired power plants coming in next month and then have staff from Public
Safety the following month to speak about the upcoming hurricane season. He said that he would
like to open this part of the meeting up for general discussion.
Mr. Mundt asked whether or not the proposed Fort Pierce Utilities Authority (FPUA) power plant
will have any effect on the County.
Commissioner Coward stated that FPUA would be locating that facility to a heavy industrial area
that had a previously approved plant on it. It was the Duke power plant site which is over by the
landfill. He said that in his opinion, this type of plant is far preferable than the coal burning facility
that FP&L is proposing. He said that he has a much more favorable opinion of a natural gas burning
plant in a heavy industrial area rather than a coal burning plant.
Mr. Mundt said that he would like to get a briefing on Economic Development in the County.
Commissioner Coward agreed. He said that is a critical issue not only in the County, but the whole
State. He explained the incentives offered to new businesses and discussion ensued regarding the
new Research Park.
There was a general discussion with Commissioner Coward regarding the Board of Education and
concerns that were brought up by Mr. Guarascio in that he would like someone from the school
board to attend a homeowners meeting and answer their questions.
Commissioner Coward said that he thought it would be more appropriate for the individual
homeowners to contact the school board and request an opportunity to meet with them. He said they
are already going around the community holding public workshops. Discussion ensued.
Mr. Monteleone said that FP&L is going around the county talking in favor of the coal-fired plant.
He asked Commissioner Coward if six months down the road, residents find out they are ready to
go, would time be a problem?
Commissioner Coward said that he has made it clear to FP&L that he is not a supporter of the plant,
but he said he does not have any ill feelings toward them, nor does he want them to waste a bunch
of money on a plant, that he personally, does not want to see built. He said that he has told them
"up-front" that he would prefer that we stop their coal plant as soon as possible so that they can get
re-directed to an alternative clean fuel. He said that he is not opposed to a cleaner burning plant in
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an appropriate location if it does not have a detrimental effect on the community and has a positive
effect on our tax base. He said that he would certainly consider that, although we need to look at the
total number of plants we want in our community, it should not be a "free for all" here. He said it
is just his opinion, but FP&L still has to get approval on a rezoning for this property and that would
be your first opportunity to send them the message that St. Lucie County does not want coal burning
plants in this community. He said that he is only speaking for himself, that he has four other fellow
commissioners that might feel differently. Discussion ensued.
Mr. Grande suggested that Commissioner Coward ask Bill Summers, an FP&L retiree & consultant,
about speaking to the group. He was the project manager for their last coal-fired plant project and
might be an objective person to speak with.
Commissioner Coward said that a couple of issues have come into the picture. If the county is going
to pay a consultant to come in, it should be a county-wide project, such as a public workshop, not
just someone speaking with the homeowners group. Discussion ensued.
Mr. Hammer voiced his concerns about the value to this group being deluded by opening it up on
a much broader basis, because the members would not have the personal interaction as in the smaller
meeting. He also said that if you bring in a bigger group, you are going to have people access that
meeting that have their own agenda's to run and will take up a lot of time.
Mr. Mundt reminded the group that there is a Board workshop coming up on May 23rd with FP&L
at 2:00 p.m.
Commissioner Coward said that ideally, this would have been the time to have the independent
speaker "tagged" onto that workshop.
Discussion ensued between Commissioner Coward and the group regarding neighborhood schools,
public transit, bicycle paths, sidewalks and bussing.
Commissioner Coward touched on the issue of concurrency and how critical it is when a developer
asks for approval to build, they are required to have sufficient capacity, such as roads to handle the
amount of car trips that will come off that road. He said there is an "option" of making schools a
concurrency law as part of the approval process. He said that he would like to have Palm Beach
County Commissioner, Karen Markus come in and speak with the group.
Ms. Kit Linberger said that she did not understand how you can have growth management without
having the school and transportation system as part of it. She also said that hurricane shelters is
another thing that should be looked at with new development.
Commissioner Coward said that Development of Regional Impact's (DRI's) that come in for
approval, have a demand within that approval that hurricane space be provided. Discussion ensued.
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It was also announced that there would be a Work Force Housing workshop with the Board on June
6,2005.
ADJOURNMENT
Having no further business to discuss, Commissioner Coward thanked the group for their attendance,
<â.nd adjourned the meeting at 11 :25 a.m.
THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE HELD WEDNESDAY, JUNE 8,2005 AT 9:00 A.M.
Charline Burgess, Recording Se e ary
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COMMUNITY SERVICES
MEMORANDUM #05-95
FROM:
Commissioner Coward and Homeowners Association
Jody Bonet and Sandra Gilfillan, Community Services ~ Þ
Hurricane Preparedness
TO:
SUBJECT:
Beth Ryder, Community Services Director is responsible to the Emergency Operations Center to
coordinate volunteers and donations during hurricane recovery. During this past season, we
unfortunately had more calls for help and much fewer volunteers to assist.
The purpose of our being here today is to acquaint you with the operations of the Community
Services Department of the County and it's responsibilities during a disaster. In addition, we
would like to encourage homeowner associations to be the first responders for your neighbors.
The Community Services Department will set up a phone bank to receive calls from residents and
volunteers. The phone number will be 462-3065.
Our department and its staff members are actively involved in preparing Hurricane Relief
strategies. Your cooperation and input could be of valuable assistance during a disaster. We
request your participation to establish contacts within your homeowners who may be willing to
provide immediate assistance to neighbors in your area and bring those concerns as their
representative to our attention.
If someone in your area needs medical attention, shelter, water, ice, food or whatever else,
designated persons in your immediate area can act as a contact for them and bring those needs to
our attention or resolve them with assistance from your neighbors. By having your group of
neighbors meet to discuss Hurricane Preparedness and their roles would assist in getting attention
immediately and assessing the damages, and necessary needs. This type of information would be
invaluable to our EOC operations. The designated persons can then relay that information to us
which would be passed on to the correct entity that can respond.
Another issue could be to designate certain individuals to pickup immediate items and distribute
them among your neighbors, such as ice, water, etc. This might cut down on the long lines we all
experienced this past September. It may also be possible that we could establish certain areas for
distributions to homeowner groups and cut down on the long wait this way. We will be looking for
possible solutions so it is important for you to provide your contact information to Community
Services at 462-3065.
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Homeowner Associations could prepare and recover by following these simple
recommendations:
· Host a hurricane preparedness meeting (discuss stocking with water, flashlights, batteries,
food, etc.);
· Call 461-5201 to invite a 51. Lucie County Emergency Management official to a meeting
to learn more information and suggested ways to help you prepare and recover from
hurricanes;
· Identify where your neighbors will be during the storms (out of Florida, at family /hotel
out of the County, at a special needs shelter, at a shelter, at current residence);
· Make a list of contact information for the residences and if possible emergency contact
information for your own use;
· Identify who can help after the storms to resolve many different needs (manual support
(removal of trees and inside debris); emotional support; phone support (call other family
members to report situation); babysitting support so a parent can get back to work; etc;
· Determine who will need help with shutters and generators;
· Provide at least three contact numbers to the County Community Services Department so
we may refer calls that we receive in your neighborhood;
· Call to the 462-3065 County phone bank number after the hurricane and report what
damage and needs your neighbors may have and explain which ones you can solve and
which ones need outside assistance (tree removal, power outage, medical equipment, ice,
water etc.).
· Always call 911 if there is a medical emergency;
· If your neighborhood is fine, please call to volunteer to help another area ofthe County
that may have been damaged.
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RESUME
HAMILTON S. OVEN, P.E.
(known as Buck)
JOB TITLE:
EDUCATION:
EXPERIENCE:
Program Administrator
BCE - Sanitary Engineering - University of Florida 1964
ME - Environmental Engineering - UF (Primary Major - Air
Pollution Control) 1968
Short Courses in - Field Enforcement of Air Pollution,
Visible Emissions Evaluation, Air Dispersion Modeling,
Design of Residential Canals and Marinas
Epidemiology of Electric and Magnetic Fields
Biological Effects of EMF
Co-operative Student FL DOT 1960-1962
Active duty U.S. Army 1965-67 - 2LT/ILT
Engineering Trainee FL DOT 2/67 - 8/67
General Engineer - U.S. Federal Power Commission - one year
Air Pollution Control Engineer - Jacksonville, FL - 16 months
Water Pollution Control Engineer - Jacksonville, FL - 9 months
Bio-Environmental Engineer (Director of Air and Water Pollution
Control) two years - Jacksonville, FL
Deputy Executive Director - Florida Department of Pollution Control
- 14 months 4/73 - 6/74
Professional Engineer & Program Administrator - Siting Coordination
Office Dept of Pollution Control - Dept of Environmental Regulation
_ Department of Environmental Protection - June 1974 to present
AREAS OF EXPERTISE: Energy Facility Siting
Power Plant Siting
Air Pollution Control
Water Pollution Control
Transmission Line Siting
Sanitary Engineering
Electric and Magnetic Fields
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Charline Burgess - Coal fired Power Plant Meeting
From:
To:
Date:
Subject:
"Oven, Hamilton" <Hamilton.Oven@dep.state.fl.us>
<cburgess@co.st-lucie.fl.us>
4/27/2005 11 :58 AM
Coal fired Power Plant Meeting
DEP's Siting Office Web site is http://www.dep.state.fI.us
850 245-8002
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ITEM~ - NEW BUSINESS
June 8, 2005
Commissioner Coward and HOA representatives:
New order of speakers and topics of discussion that were requested at the May meeting.
1.) Hurricane Awareness & Emergency Shelters in St. Lucie County (Public Safety will
address these issues at the July 13th HOA meeting)
2.) Update on Economic Development
3.) An update on the Civic Center (information will not be available for a few more months.
4.) Temporary Housing (there will be a workshop with the BOCC 6/6/05 at 9 a.m.)
5.) Rebuilding of Roads and Swales
6.) Update on new codes for billboards and political signs
7.) Building Official to speak regarding concurrency fees
Thanks,
Charline
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ANNOUNCEMENTS
Map 24, 2005
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I. Meeting Changes:
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May 31, 2005 is a 5th Tuesday. There is no Board of County Commissioners meeting scheduled.
The June 21, 2005 Board of County Commissioners meeting is canceled.
The July 5, 2005 Board of County Commissioners meeting is canceled.
The July 12, 2005 Board of County Commissioners meeting will begin at 2:00 p.m. adjourn 4:00 p.m.
and reconvene at 6:00 p.m.
The July 19, 2005 Board of County Commissioners meeting is canceled.
November 15, 2005 Board of County Commissioners Reorganization meeting will be at 9:00 a.m.
The December 27, 2005 Board of County Commissioners meeting is canceled.
5. The Board of County Commissioners will old a WorRshop on WorRforce Housing on Monday, June 6, 2005
from 9:00 a.m. to 11:00 a.m. in the St. Lucie County Commission Chambers.
6. The Board of County Commissioners, and the City of Port St. Lucie Council will hold a Joint Meeting on Impact
Fees on Monday, June 6, 2005 at the City of Port St. Lucie Community Center, 2195 Airoso Boulevard, Port St.
Lucie, Florida from 2:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m.
7. The Board of County Commissioners, the Research and Education ParR Steering Committee, and the City of
Fort Pierce will hold a WorRshop on Tuesday, June 7, 2005 at the USDA Horticulture Research Lab, 2001 S.
RocR Road, Fort Pierce, Florida from 2:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m.
I. The Special Olympics, St. Lucie County Golf Tournament will be hosted on Saturday, June 11, 2005 at Club Med
at 8:00 a.m. (Shot Gun). For more information please contact Diana Mitchell 462-1683.
e. The Board of County Commissioner will hold the Towns, Villages and Country Side Element WorRshop on
Monday, June 13, 2005 from 4:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. in the St. lucie County Commission Chambers.
10. The Board of County Commissioners will hold a Ground BreaRing Ceremony for S. 25th Street at the intersection
of S. 25th Street and Midway Road, on Friday, Jùly 1, 2005 at 10:00 a.m.
II. The St. Lucie County Centennial Celebration will be held on July 2, 2005 at the St. Lucie County Fairgrounds
from 11:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m.
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MAY 24, 2005
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12.. The Board of County Commissioners, City of Fort Pierce Commission, and the City of Port St. Lucie Council will
hold a Joint Meeting on Monday, August 29, 2005 at the City of Fort Pierce Commission Chambers first floor,
100 N. US Hwy. 1, Fort Pierce, Florida 34950 from 2:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m.
II. The Board of County Commissioners will hold a WorRshop with Martin County on Tuesday, August 30, 2005
from 9:00 a.m. to noon at the Martin County Commission Chambers located at 2401 SE Monterey Road, Stuart.
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COMMISSIONER
May 2, 2005
To Homeowner Association Members:
At our last meeting, you asked that Charline and I try and organize speakers for May who
could present more information about either the proposed power plant or an update from the
County's Public Safety Department regarding preparation for the forthcoming hurricane
season. Unfortunately, due to time restraints and scheduling conflicts, we were unable to
accomplish this request.
We were able to reach Hamilton "Buck" Oven, Program Administrator and Professional
Engineer with the Florida Department of Environmental Protection (FDEP) in Tallahassee,
and he has agreed to speak at the June 8th meeting. Mr. Oven's areas of expertise are: Energy
Facility Siting; Power Plant Siting; Air Pollution Control; Water Pollution Control;
Transmission Line Siting; Sanitary Engineering; and, Electric and Magnetic Fields. Weare
also in the process of looking for an independent speaker to compliment this regulatory
perspective.
County staff from the Public Safety Department will also be at the Governor's hurricane
conference in Tampa from May 8th through May 13th and therefore unavailable for our next
meeting. The Public Safety Director, Jack Southard, has agreed to speak at our July 13th
meeting.
Instead of canceling the May meeting, Charline and I both felt it would be better to dedicate
more time for general discussion. There are several brief presentations on the proposed agenda
but the majority ofthe meeting will provide ample opportunity for open dialogue on any topic
of interest. This should be an interesting alternative to our more structured meetings of the
past. We can then return in June for the Power Plant presentations and July for the Public
Safety update.
Thank you for your patience in this matter. We look forward to seeing you on May 11th.
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County Administrator - Douglos M. Anderson
2300 Virginia Avenue. Fort Pierce, FL 34982-5652 · (772) 462-1412
FAX (772) 462-2131 · TDD (772) 462-1428
www.co.st-Iucie.fl.us
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PROPERTY & HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION MEETING
May]1, 2005,..., 9:00 a.m.
3rd Floor
Conference Room 3
AGENDA
1.) Call to Order ~ Commissioner Doug Coward, Chairman
» Pledge of Allegiance
» Self Introduction of Property & Homeowners Representatives and Members of the
Public
2.) Approval of the Minutes of April 13, 2005
3.) St, Lucie County Sheriff's Office Report by Captain Graves or Deputy Gonsalves
4.) Guest Speakers and Topic of Discussion:
A.) Linette Trabulsy, Public Information Officer St, Lucie County and
Erick Gill, Media Specialist for St. Lucie County will provide an update on St. Lucie
County's Centennial Celebration;
B.) Melissa Corwell, Mitigation Specialist with the Division of Forestry and Puddin Race,
Fire Prevention Coordinator with SLC Fire Dept, will Present a brief video on being
"Fire- Wize;"
C.) Jody Bonet, Transit Manager and Sandy Gilfillan, Executive Secretary will briefly discuss
transit and disaster assistance;
D.) Dennis Grim, Code Compliance Manager or his representative, will provide a brief
update on building permitting.
5.) Old Business ~ (See attached)
6.) New Business ~ Select (or add) new topic of discussion from priority list for next month's meeting.
7.) Adjournment
Please note, the next meeting will be June 8, 2005
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ST. LUCIE COUNTY
PROPERTY AND HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION
Minutes of Meeting
April 13, 2005
Convened: 9:00a.m.
Adlourned: 11 :OOa.m.
This meeting of the Property and Homeowners Association was held Wednesday, April 13, 2005 at
9:00a.m. in Conference Room #3 of the St. Lucie County Administration Annex Building, 2300
Virginia Avenue, Fort Pierce, FL 34982.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Charlie Brown, Indian River Estates
Craig Mundt, North Beach Association
Bob Bangert, Holiday Pines Homeowners Association
Claire Twombly, Tropical Isles
Frank Monteleone, Spanish Lakes Country Club Village
Charles Grande, Presidents Council of S Hutchinson Island
Bill Hammer, PGA Village
JoeAnne Severino, Spanish Lakes Fairways
Kit Linberger, Palm Grove
Jack Cahill, Fort Pierce South Beach Association
Barbara Daum' e, Lake Lucie Homeowners
Christiane Mollet, Indian River Drive Freeholders
Fred Cook, Port St. Lucie HOA
Betty Bradwell, Sheraton Plaza HOA
Tommy Effend, Harmony Heights HOA
Eileen Jenny, River Park HOA
Charles Hendley, Paradise Park HOA
ALSO PRESENT: Commissioner Doug Coward, District 2
Charline Burgess, Aide to Commissioner Coward
Eva O'Donnell, Aide to Commissioner Craft
Joseph E. Smith, County Commissioner, District 1
Carin Smith, Aide to Commissioner Smith
Barbara Felton, Aide to Commissioner Lewis
Frannie Hutchinson, County Commissioner, District 4
Ed Mercado, Information Technology
Brian Myszkowski, Information Technology
Shane DeWitt, Technical Operations Manager, SLCTV
Rachel Scott, Communications Manager for FP&L
Barbara Linkiewicz, Environmental Licensing Manager for FP&L
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Nick Blount, External Affairs Manager for FP&L
Sheriff Ken Mascara
Deputy Gary Gonsalves, St. Lucie County Sheriffs Department
Mark Boston, Nettles Island
John Ferrick, North Fork Property Owners
Jim Reeder, Reporter for the Palm Beach Post
Celiemay Payne, Sheraton Plaza
JoAnne Molinia, Oakland Park
Emily Broxton, Paradise Park
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 9:00AM. Commissioner Coward led the Association in the
Pledge of Allegiance. The Homeowners representatives and the public in attendance gave self-
introductions.
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF MARCH 9, 2005
Charlie Brown moved to approve the minutes of March 9,2005. Bob Bangert seconded the motion
and the approval carried unanimously by voice vote with one correction to page 5 at the top, the
word "last" should be added. (Correction made)
ST. LUCIE COUNTY SHERIFFS REPORT
Deputy Gary Gonsalves reported to the group that this there is a special project called "Seniors vs
Crime" created by the Florida Attorney General, in partnership with Sheriff Ken Mascara. He said
that the main goal of the program is the protection of seniors and to mediate problems and disputes
between contractors and the public. He said that if anyone was interested in becoming a member in
order to help others, they could visit or call the St. Lucie West Courthouse Annex at 250 NW
Country Club Drive in Port St. Lucie, telephone number (772) 871-5350 on Tuesdays and Thursdays
10:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. For further information the website is www.seniorsvscrime.com and
flyers were distributed as well.
Commissioner Coward introduced Sheriff Mascara and asked if anyone had any questions for him,
Jack Cahill mentioned the "dummy" in the Sheriffs car on Seaway Drive. He said that the sand
trucks come by at about 10 trips a day, and after about 2 or 3 trips they know that there is a dummy
in the car.
Sheriff Mascara stated that there is not always a "dummy," and that they have written 53 tickets to
dump trucks in the last two weeks.
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ITEM 4 - GUEST SPEAKERS AND TOPICS OF DISCUSSION
:> Shane DeWitt, St. Lucie County Technical Operations Manager, SLCTV - Update on Media
Relations and the St. Lucie County TV website.
Mr. DeWitt said that he wanted to inform the group of their monthly informational show, "Inside
St. Lucie," and the first show would be about SLCTV and "Video-On-Demand" about the services
that SLCTV provides for the residents. He said that they would be doing 24 hour web-streaming and
"Video On Demand" in early May. Installation should be completed by April 26th. He said that once
that is available anyone can go to the County web-site and there will be a link there, SLCTV, and
be able to watch the county government channel 24 hours a day, or it could be watched if they are
on live.
Bob Bangert asked how they could find the schedule of programs.
Mr. De Witt said that if you go to the link SLCTV, everything will be there. He said that if anyone
had any questions, that he could be reached at (772)462-1869.
:>Ed Mercado, Web master and Brian Myszkowski, Network Operations Manager with St.
Lucie County Information Technologies department were available for questions.
Mr. Bangert stated that he would like to see a link to the Information Technology Department and
their staff members.
Commissioner Coward said there is a link to respond back to the webmaster on the county's website.
Mr. Mercado stated that he would look into the possibility of providing a contact list and that there
is a form on the website that can be filled out and discussion ensued regarding suggestions from Mr.
Cahill, Commissioner Coward and Mr. Bangert.
:>Nick Blount, External Affairs Manager and Rachel Scott, Communications Manager -
Update on the proposed Florida Power and Light Coal Fired Power Plant
Mr. Blount stated that he commended the county for putting together such an organization such as
this group. He then introduced Rachel Scott and Barbara Linkewicz for the project and turned the
floor over to Ms. Scott.
Ms. Scott gave an overview and power point presentation on the proposed coal fired power plant.
She said that they are at a very preliminary stage in the project and they do plan to have a community
open house as the design is developed. She said that because of oil prices going up they needed to
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find a cheaper responsible energy source, thus the reason for the nuclear power plant. She said that
after the two hurricanes, they are working on ways to get more information out to the public.
She said that they are trying to find new ways to address new growth, and one of their priorities is
their commitment to environmental issues and looking for new ways to improve their environmental
performance. The plant would provide service to 355,000 new houses and businesses. She said that
they want to hear what the public has to say and address their concerns, and that time is now.
:>Ms. Scott introduced Ms. Barbara Linkiewicz, Licensing Manager for FP&L.
Ms. Linkiewicz stated that the plant is being put as far out west as they can get it in the county. She
said the project would be clean efficient, reliable and cost effective and targeted for completion in
2012-2013. The proposed site is located within a 3,000 acre site on an approximate 7,000 acre
triangular-shaped property in southwest St. Lucie County, bordered by Bluefield Road to the west
and the C-23 canal to the east. She said the coal would come from the continental U.S. and other
parts of the world. The potential for full time jobs would be 175 to 180. The projected total
investment would be $2 to $3 billion and potential tax benefits in the range of approximately $30
million annually.
Mr. Cook asked for a photograph of the property so that he would know exactly where the plant is
going to be.
Commissioner Coward asked whether or not there is a website available where residents can go to
links or maps.
Ms. Linkiewicz said they are working on a website, which will be ready in the next couple of weeks.
The website will be www.fpl.com/swstlucie.com.
Mr. Jack Cahill asked at what capacity our current nuclear plant is working at right now?
Ms. Scott said that it runs at 100% power most of the time. She said that the reason for the new plant
is for additional power in the years 2012 and 2013. She said that FP&L hopes to build a coal
powered plant so that they don't become overly reliant on natural gas, oils or fuels.
Mr. Cahill asked what the cost of operating the proposed plant would be?
Ms. Scott said that she didn't have an exact figure today, but that information would be available
soon. She said that coal is cheaper to operate with than nuclear.
Mr. Charlie Brown said that he had read that there would be an extra sur-charge on bills for the
emulsion plant for the electricity put out to the people.
Ms. Scott replied no, but unfortunately right now there are a lot of cost recovery programs that
FP&L is involved in before the Public Service Commission, so maybe that was what was in the
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paper. She said that they are requesting a $2.00/month surcharge on customer bills to re-coop some
of the expenses incurred in last year's hurricanes, and to save for this year's hurricane season.
Ms. Linkiewicz stated that the primary cooling water source would be delivered by pipeline from
the Martin County power plant reservoir and a supplemental water source would be excess run-off
water from the C-23 Canal, rather than the run-off being dumped into the St. Lucie Estuary. She said
there would be no impact to county water and wastewater facilities. She said that as always, there
are concerns about emissions control. She said they are going to employ the best available emissions
control system. We have to meet all of the state, federal and local requirements to protect our lives
and the environment as well. She explained the different types of devices that will be used to control
the emissions.
Mr. Fred Cook asked how long it would take for normal emissions to dissipate into the air before
it affects anyone? He said that the normal pattern of wind is west to east.
Ms. Scott stated that the smoke stacks would be 600 feet high, to get the emissions dispersed at a
very high elevation. These emissions would be monitored very closely by experts that they will hire
to follow the emissions i.e. wind direction, etc.
Ms. Kit Linberger asked where the coal would come from?
Ms. Scott said they are looking at an even split between foreign and domestic brought in by rail. She
suggested that for better clarification the group look at the back up information with reports that she
provided and discussion ensued.
Mr. Charles Grande said that he lives close to the FP&L nuclear plant on Hutchinson Island and that
FP&L has been a great neighbor. He said that when we talk about "clean burning coal plants" they
are not clean compared to any other type of energy. He said that will be an uphill fight. He said that
he would suggest that the commissioners say "not in our back yard." He said that it will take seven
years of fighting this and finally winning and wasting all that time, and that there are important
things that are going to happen now.
Mr. Cahill questioned the amount of taxes that would be brought into the county when there has been
fighting in the past five or six years with FP&L over their taxes. In regard to the creation of jobs,
he said that during the nuclear power plant creation on the island, most of the jobs provided by
FP&L came out of New York.
Mr. Frank Monteleone asked if this was the first coal fired plant in the state of Florida?
Ms. Scott said there are other plants, in other counties, but this is the first coal plant using this type
of pollution control technology.
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Mr. Monteleone said that we won't see any of this until the plant is completed. He said that no one
will know what the costs are in the seven years it takes to build it.
Ms. Scott said that Germany and Japan have used this type of technology and it works. She said it
will cost 600 million dollars for the environmental studies to make sure it will work here.
Mr. Grande expressed concern about the height of the smoke stacks, how long it takes the emissions
to get out of the air and the time it takes to make sure no one is harmed, and discussion ensued.
Ms. Scott said that the concept is that the emissions are such that the public health is protected.
Mr. Craig Mundt asked whether or not there is a comparison or analysis versus other types of plants.
Ms. Scott said that they are in the process of doing that right now.
Commissioner Coward asked if that would be done before the Planning and Zoning Commission
meet on this?
Ms. Scott replied yes, it will be, and that the re-zoning application is ready to be filed in the Planning
Department next Friday. She then explained the 2 year permitting process. She said the construction
would take about four years, and the plant should be up and running by the year 2013. She said that
she would appreciate feed-back from the public and a 1-800 number is being set up.
Mr. Bangert expressed his concerns regarding the water supply; one hundred thirty five train car
loads of coal every day; and that the proposed plant would be next to the environmentally sensitive
Bluefield Ranch and discussion ensued.
Mr. Monteleone suggested that since we've heard all of the good things about this plant, that
technical people should be brought in as a rebuttal to FP&L's proposal.
Commissioner Coward stated he would try to do as the group asked. He said that at this time he is
skeptical about the plant, but is willing to hear and look at all of the information brought before him.
He said that he would much rather see a plant in the most western part ofthe county that the eleven
grouped together that have tried to come in. He said that you have to be realistic, they could build
this in Okeechobee County where we would get the pollution and they would get the economic
benefits. (He referred to the new power plant going in on the Indian River Co.! St. Lucie Co. line.)
Commissioner Joe Smith addressed the group. He stated that this is really the first in-depth
opportunity he has had to see what you're seeing. He said that he would like to know how it works
in Germany and Japan. He said that there are technologies today that we thought were horrible when
they began, for instance the nuclear plant on Hutchinson Island, but that worked out. He said that
he would like to continue to be educated in order to make an educated and informed decision, but
right now he doesn't have all the facts.
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Ms. Scott said that they are not trying to sell this, but they do have a responsibility to their
customers, thus the reason for these meetings with her to share your concerns. She also gave an
update on the spent fuel from the nuclear plant and what FP&L needs to do as they are running out
of space to store the fuel.
Ms. Scott asked that anyone wishing to send in the questionnaire forms please fax to her at (561)
694-4718 or call (561) 694-3682 for an appointment for her to come out and speak to their
organizations.
ITEM 4 - OLD BUSINESS
Mr. Brown mentioned the document provided by Mr. Cahill, and stated that the proposed summary
of development for St. Lucie County was a shock!
Commissioner Coward stated that staff has put together a map of all of the residential projects that
have been approved or pending in St. Lucie County, and it is staggering! He said the count is 78,000
homes, 53,000 of which are in Port St. Lucie, so there are some tremendous issues related to
diversify the tax base, our ability to provide services for schools, police and fire. These are
tremendously important issues. He said that we are one of the fastest growing areas in the nation and
if we don't tackle growth management issues right now, we are going to get buried just like south
Florida.
Ms. JoeAnne Severino stated that residents are still having problems with hurricane damage issues;
fighting with the contractors, the insurance companies, and even their landlords.
Commissioner Coward stated that the Board of County Commissioners are trying to help in every
way that they can to control growth and staying involved with the pending issues that are still out
there caused by the hurricanes.
Ms. Barbara Daum'e said that they are having problems with renters in Villages of Lake Lucie and
asked if any of the members could give her information on Renter's guidelines within Homeowner
Associations?
Mr. Mundt said that he could help her by bringing the information to the next meeting.
Commissioner Coward asked if anyone had any further questions for Commissioner Smith?
Ms. Betty Bradwell asked Commissioner Smith when the sign is going to be put back up for the
Sheraton Plaza entrance on 25th Street?
Commissioner Smith said that he would check into it.
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Mr. Cahill reported that the county lifeguards are parking their trucks up on the dune lines on South
Beach, and that he has called and nothing is being done about it.
Mr. Mundt told Mr. Cahill that he had a meeting scheduled with the sheriff that afternoon to discuss
the same thing on North Beach and that he would mention his concerns to him.
ITEM 6 ~ NEW BUSINESS
Commissioner Coward asked the group for their direction on topics of discussion for next month's
meeting. He mentioned that Melissa Corwell, Division of Forestry and Nate Spera, St. Lucie Co.
Fire Department wants to come and give a brief presentation on being "fire-wize." We also have a
request from Linnette Trabulsky, Public Information Officer to bring in some information on the
county's centennial celebration. He asked the group if they wanted to continue with the coal plant
and try to line up a speaker for next month to answer all their questions.
It was the consensus of the group to bring back a speaker on the FP&L coal plant to answer their
questions.
Commissioner Coward said that he would do his best to get an expert in.
Ms. Kit Linberger said that since hurricane season is nearly on us again, that in the near future we
should be looking at the hurricane shelter situation.
Commissioner Coward agreed with her, he said that is very important. He said that there are still
outstanding issues with the civic center, so until those issues are resolved it would be hard to have
a meaningful conversation on that topic. He said that it remains a priority, but with the shelters and
the hurricane season forthcoming that is timely and important as well. He said that he would like
to bring in our Emergency Management Experts to give a detailed description about what the
immediate and long term plans are regarding hurricane and special needs shelters. He said that would
be a good topic to fall back on in case finding an expert on coal plants falls through.
It was suggested that Emergency Management staff could be brought in at next month's meeting,
just in case Commissioner Coward is unable to get an expert on the coal fired plant and when they
come in have a listing ready of the locations so that the group can take it back to their associations.
Mr. Bill Hammer suggested a list of resources be made available to the public for hurricane shutters,
generators, etc.
Commissioner Coward agreed. He said he had thought about some type of presentation from our
local channel just giving out basic information like that and discussion ensued.
Property & Homeowners Assoc. Meeting
April 13, 2005
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Having no further business to discuss, Commissioner Coward thanked the group for their attendance,
and for the new faces that he saw here today and adjourned the meeting at 11 :00 a.m.
THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE HELD WEDNESDAY, MAY 11,2005 AT 9:00 A.M.
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March 2005
Background: FPL is considering building an advanced technology coal power plant to meet future
growth in electricity demand and to address the need to diversify fuels. The project would be clean,
efficient, reliable and cost effective and targeted for completion in 2012-2013. Following are highlights of
the project:
Proposed site:
· Located within a 3,000 acre site on an approximately 7000-acre, triangular-shaped property in
southwest St. Lucie County, bordered by Bluefield Road to the west and the C-23 canal to the
east
Plant design:
· Consisting of two units capable of producing 850 megawatts each of electricity
· Utilizing advanced coal technology that's clean, efficient, reliable and cost effective
o The advanced technology is called supercritical pulverized coal
o Coal is first pulverized to improve its burn efficiency
o Then it is burned to heat water to create steam
o After which the steam is used to drive a steam turbine and electric generator which
produces electricity
Water Source Options:
· Primary cooling water source would be delivered by pipeline from the Martin power plant reservoir
· Supplemental water source would be excess storm water runoff from C-23 canal
· Discussion with SFWMD is ongoing regarding other potential sources such as future reservoirs
and/or other groundwater options
State-of-the art environmental emission controls:
· Wet flue gas desulfurization would remove sulfur dioxide (scrubber)
· Baghouse or dry electrostatic precipitator would remove particulates (ESP)
· Wet electrostatic precipitator would remove fine particulates (wet ESP)
· Each of the above emission controls would also remove mercury
· Selective catalytic reduction would remove nitrogen oxide (SCR - similar to automobile emission
controls called selective catalytic converters)
Fuel supply proposal:
· Coal would come from continental US and other parts of the world
· Plant could use a percentage of up to 20% petroleum coke (a by product of oil refining process)
· Fuel supply would arrive at site by rail
Recycled by products and down stream business opportunities:
. Ash that forms during combustion could be used for cement and asphalt production
. Gypsum from scrubber could be used for wallboard manufacturing or cement production
Socioeconomic Benefits:
· Potential for full time jobs in the range of 175 to 180
· Projected total investment of approximately $2 to $3 billion
· Potential tax benefits in the range of approximately $30 million annually
· No impact to county water and wastewater facilities
· Storm water runoff from C-23 can be utilized at site as a supplemental water source rather than
discharged to St. Lucie Estuary
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ITEM 5- OLD BUSINESS
To: Commissioner Doug Coward
HOA members
From: Charline Burgess, Ex. Aide
At the April 13th meeting ofthe HOA, the following items were reported or questions asked:
(Back-up is provided as well)
A) Ms. Barbara Daum'e asked for renter's guidelines within HOA Associations
Answer - Mr. Craig Mundt said he could provide her with the documents.
B.) Mr. Jack Cahill reported that lifeguards are parking their trucks on the sand dunes
on South Hutchinson Island.
Answer - I reported this to Public Safety. Attached is an e-mail response from
Jack Southard, Public Safety Director
C.) Ms Betty Bradwell asked when the Sheraton Plaza sign would be replaced at the
entrance of their community and 25th Street.
Answer - Commissioner Smith's office handled this one. I've attached back-up
documentationfrom Ms. Carin Smith, Scott Herring and a letter from FDOT to
Mr. Herring regarding the replacement of the sign.
D.) Ms. JoeAnne Severino said that the hurricane related problems with insurance
companies and contractors still have not been resolved within her community of
Spanish Lakes Fairways.
Answer - Commissioner Coward met with Ms. Severino. Ms. Severino then
met with the new HOA president of Spanish Lakes Fairways and together they
are going to try and get the problems solved.
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COUNTY CHARRETTE ARE NOW ON LINE@ WWW.TCRPC.ORG or
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Re: Lifeguards parking on the dunes
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Andy Ritchie called you back he is the Marine Safety Coordinator, I have gone out there with him and in no way
are they parking on the dunes, plus they would know better, but to put a stop to this I will have them park else
where. They do ride the 4 wheeler on the beach and do have DEP permission to do so as emergency vehicles.
Thanks
Jack
»> Charline Burgess 04/19/054:01 PM »>
Hi Jack,
I had a call about this a week or so ago from Mr. Jack Cahill saying that the lifeguards are ruining the dunes.
Someone from your office called me back, but I don't remember who, or what the explanation was. Since this
was reported again in the homeowners meeting by Mr. Cahill last Wed., could you please have someone e-mail
me a response to his complaint so that I can include it in the HOA packet when they go out.
Thank you,
Charline Burgess
Executive Aide to
Commissioner Doug Coward
Phone (772) 462-1412
Fax (772) 462-2131
e-mail cburgess(éi)co.st-lucie.fI.us
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Scott Herring
Smith, Carin
4/13/05 11 :38:AM
Re: Sheraton Plaza sign
Carin,
If this sign was removed during the widening of 25th Street, that was a project done by the Florida Dept. of
Transportation. I have a copy of a letter I got from FOOT concerning this issue back in 2002, I would be
more than happy to fax or send via interoffice mail this letter which basically states that the FOOT isn't
going to do anything,
Hope this helps and let me know how you would like this letter sent to you!
Scott
>>> Carin Smith 04/13/05 11 :23 AM >>>
Scott,
During today's Property and Homeowners Association meeting, Betty Bradwell, the HOA President for
Sheraton Plaza, asked if there has been any progress in replacing the sign that used to greet people as
they entered the neighborhood from 25th Street. She says the sign was removed during the widening of
25th, and has not yet been replaced.
Can you please look into this and advise?
Thank you..,
Carin Smith, Executive Aide
Joseph E. Smith
District 1
St. Lucie County Board of Commissioners
2300 Virginia Avenue
Fort Pierce, FL 34982-5652
(772) 462-1410
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3601 Oleander Avenue. Fort Pierce. FL 34982-6594
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SECRf.,TARY
11/28/02
Scott Herring, P .E.
Road and Bridge Manager
Public Works Department, St. Lucie County
2300 Virginia Ave.
Ft. P ¡eree, FL 34946
Re: SR 615, 25th Street Improvement Project from SR 5 (US·1) to Avenue" Q"
Sign for Sheraton Plaza
Dear Mr. Hening:
Thank you for your letter dated 11/13/02 soliciting input on the replacement of the above
referenced sign. We will contact Ms. McGriff as you suggested, but I thought it
appropriate to make you aware of the Departments position on this issue.
In my staffs researching of the contract, we could find no mention or reference to the
above subject sign replacement. The contract simply called for removal of the sign, since
it was an encroachment of our RJW and was in an area necessary for the construction
improvements. Conversations with the project persolUlel yielded I10 information as to
commitments made for the replacement of the sign. Please be aware that this project has
been complete for about two years, and this is the first time we have heard anything about
this sign.
Our propcrt)' management group in the District had no record of any commitments made
to replace the sign. Generally speaking. during the R/W acquisition phase, if
commitments are made to affected parties, those are done in writing, and incJuded in the
contract package for prosecution by the construction group.
Without written infonnation that was generated by the Department or its agents, we
cannot accommodate Ms. McGriffs request. If you have any questions or wish to discuss
this issue further, please call me at (772) 465-7396.
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ITEM :- NEW BUSINESS
May 11, 2005
Commissioner Coward and HOA representatives:
New order of speakers and topics of discussion that were requested at the April meeting.
1.) An update on the Civic Center (information will not be available for another couple of
months.)
2.) Hurricane Awareness & Emergency Shelters in St. Lucie County (Public Safety can
address these issues at the July 13th HOA meeting)
3.) Temporary Housing (there will be a workshop with the BOCC 6/6/05 at 9 a.m.)
4.) Rebuilding of Roads and Swales
5.) Update on new codes for billboards and political signs
6.) Building Official to speak regarding concurrency fees
Thanks,
Charline
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PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT
MEMORANDUM
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Commissioner Paula Lewis
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APR 2 2 2005 &
FROM: Don West, Pnblic Works Directo~t~·
SUBJECT: Entrada Avenue Landscaping Project Status Report
DATE:
April 19, 2005
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The design plans for the Entrada Landscaping Project are 1000/0 completed and all of
the necessary permits are in hand. Bid documents and contract specification have not
been prepared yet, pending resolution of construction funding.
The Entrada Project provides for landscaping improvements to be placed between U.S.
Hwy No.1 and Entrada Avenue, within the median area. The Project limits extend
from Rio Mar Drive to Banyan Drive. Additionally, a landscaped median will be
constructed on Rio Mar Drive, between the limits of Beach Avenue and U.S. Hwy 1. A
sprinkler system will be installed using wells as a source of irrigation water. Concrete
curbing will be placed along the outer perimeter of the landscape medians.
In 2001, County Staff applied for a Transportation Enhancement Grant through the
Florida Department of Transportation, and was unsuccessful. The grant was applied
for again in 2003, and received approval.
The total Project cost is estimated at $266,700, with the FDOT grant providing for 55%
of the total funding (at $147,000). The County will need to provide the additional
$119s700 in matching funds. Currently, we are working with FDOT to finalize the
grant agreement and resolve the funding issue.
The FDOT grant agreement will be approved by the Board of County Commissioners
within the next 30 days, then it will be forwarded to FDOT for execution.
Currently, the County has sufficient funds available in the 2005 Transportation Capital
Budget, in the amount of $120,000 to provide the matching funds.
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Funding reimbursement from FDOT will occur in FDOT Fiscal Year 2007, beginning
July 1,2006.
Assuming the FDOT Grant Agreement is approved and executed by June 2005, the
County should be able to advertise the Project for construction bids this summer. This
would allow for construction to commence in early 2006.
Presently, the County Public works Staff is not in a position to start new construction
projects until 2006. Our entire staff is still consumed with Hurricane Restoration
Projects at this time
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Doug Anderson, County Administrator
Ray Wazny, Assistant County Administrator
Mike Powley, County Engineer
Craig Hauschild, Capital Proj ects Engineer
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Zora Fest!
to celebrate
author~s life
Zora Fest! honoring writer and an-
thropologist lora Neale Hurston is}Æay 13-
)..5 in Fort P~ but there are some
wann-uP events not to miss.
The festival, which celebrates the life
of the famous Harlem Renaissance writ-
er who .died in Fort Pierce in 1960, will
include all the things she loved: books,
jazz, art,drcnna, flowers, African history,
fancy hats, .martinis and more.
On May, 12 the Women with Words
Book Club will have a cocktail reception
and a book review of Hurston's autobiog-
raphy Dust Tracks on a Road. The review,
hosted by Marjorie Cook-HarreU·at the Fort
Pierce Yacht Club, will be a good intro-
duction to the festival and into·the ex-
traordinary life of a woman whose work
is studied and enjoyed all over the world.
Hors d'oeuvres and martinis will be
served at 4:30 p.m., followed by the dis-
cussion of Hurston's life.
The event is free, but the planners
would appreciate reservations. Call Sere-
na Knight, (772) 323-4021.
The Fort Pierce Yacht Club is at 700
N. Indian River Drive just south of South
Bridge.
Copies of Dust Tracks on a Road can
be purchased at the Hurston Branch li-
brary, which celebrates its reopening at
11 a.m. today. The library at 3008 Ave-
nue D in Fort Pierce has been closed
since last September's hurricanes.
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Storm-damaged
library to reopen
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The staff will give tours
of the upgraded facility and
refreshments will be
served: Hurston's autobiog-
raphy IS also available at
Signature
Salon in
downtown
Fort Pierce.
Following
the book re-
view on
May 12,
there will
be a a free
jazz concert
by the Fort Pierce Jazz So-
cIety from 7 to 10 p.m. at
the Fort Pierce Community
Center, which is next door
to the yacht club.
For other events
. p~anned for Zora Fest! at
Lincoln Park Academy and
o~er venues in Fort
PIerce, call Vickie Straeffer
at the St. Lucie County Cul-
tural Affairs Council (772)
462-1767. '
Students to sing
. She's hoping for four
Willners when her students
from Port St. Lucie com-
pete on Saturday at Sun-
Fest in West Palm Beach.
. ~inda Shepherd, of the
sillgill~ duo Shepherd 'n
Green, IS also a voice coach
and her students Shelby ,
Trelger, 12, Ashley Nlcolau,
Hurston
13, Meghan Denise Church
13, and Holly Clickner 17 '
perform in the SunF~st idol
Competition from 2 to 3'30
p.m. at the riverfront fe~ti-
val.
Semi-finalists return
Sunday at 1:30 p.m. for the
final competition.
'They're all outstanding
v~calists but if they don't
Win, they'll take it well "
~~d Shep~erd. "They Ìmow
It s a steppmg stone and a
chance to perform."
On the way up
Another young singer
on her way to stardom is
J~mle TaUes, 11, of Fort
PIerce.
If you saw her perfor-
manc~ 0,n Sunday evening's
Amenca s Most Talented Kids
on PAX, you know. She
sang Wynonna Judd's hit
Stuck in Love with style, per-
fect pItch and power.
Talles came in second
out of seven perfonners
b.arely losing to a teenage
sI~ger, and handled it all
~thgrace. You'll be hear-
mg more about Talles,
To share your news about peo-
ple or events on the Treasure
Coast, callJeri at 223-3552
e-mail her at '
jeri, _butler@pbpost.com, or
write her at The Palm Beach
Post, 2101 S. Ktlnner High-
way, Stuart, F7a. 34994
Please include any phot~s.
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St. Lucie County Property & Homeowners Association Meeting
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Conference Room #3
1. Call to order - Commissioner John Bruhn, Chairman
· Pledge of Allegiance
2. Introductions
3. Approval of minutes (March 10, 2004)
4. Old Business (Please see Packets)
5. New Business
6. St. Lucie County Sheriff's Office Report
7. Guest Speakers
· Jim McCann
· Jack Southard: Hurricane Season Preparation
8. Adjournment
Please note: The next meeting will be May 12. 2004. at
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ST. LUCIE COUNTY
PROPERTY AND HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION
Minutes of Meeting
March 10, 2004
Convened: 9:05a.m.
Adjourned: 11 :25a.m.
This meeting of the Property and Homeowners Association was held Wednesday, March 10, 2004
at 9:05a.m. in the County Commission Chambers in the Administration Annex Building, 2300
Virginia Avenue, Fort Pierce, Florida.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Bob Bangert, Holiday Pines
Charlie Brown, Indian River Estates
Charles Grande, President's Council of S Hutchinson Island
Frank Guarascio, Villas of Sandpiper Bay
Victor Post, Nettles Island
Peggy Horrigan, Tropical Isles Homeowners Association
Sonny Jamieson, Savanna Club Homeowners Association
Shirley Burlingham, North Beach Homeowners Association
Nancy Spalding, Coral Cove Beach Homeowners Association
Bill Hammer, The Reserve Homeowners Association
Kit Linberger, Palm Grove Homeowners Association
Roger Sharp, Indian River Drive Freeholders
Val Scorse, River Park Homeowners Association
JoeAnne Severino, Spanish Lakes Fairways Homeowners Association
ALSO PRESENT: Commissioner John Bruhn, District 1
Ja'net Pentz, Aide to Commissioner Bruhn
Eva Luna, Aide to Commissioner Barnes
Liz Martin, Aide to Commissioner Hutchinson
Dennis Murphy, S1. Lucie County Community Development
Mike Powley, S1. Lucie County Public Works Department
Ken Jackson, Kimley Horne and Associates
Jose Velarde, Florida Department of Transportation
Rick Mitinger, Florida Department of Transportation
Captain Graves, Sheriff's Department
Tom Linberger, Palm Grove Homeowners Association
Joanne Davie, Palm Grove Homeowners Association
Winston Shelton, Parks Edge Property Homeowners Association
Helen Murtha, Savanna Club
Emil Murtha Savanna Club
Joan Zurn
William Madden, Savanna Club
Catherine Madden, Savanna Club
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John Ferrick, North Fork Property Homeowners Association
Kathryne Leavy, St. Lucie Country Club Village
Tony Krawczyk, Savanna Club
Faye Erlandson, Savanna Club
Eleanor Gormly, Savanna Club
Bill Alsfeld, Savanna Club
L. Gnigliano, The Grove
Bill Spreitzer, Tropical Isles
Buster Scorse, River Park Homeowners Association
Ernest J. Menyhart, Savanna Club
Kathy Thornton, Savanna Club
John Puglianes, The Grove
Paul Himmelsbach, Lake Lucie
Delores Interlicchio, Palm Grove
Frank Interlicchio, Palm Grove
Barbara Stark, Palm Grove
Anthony Melezlo, Palm Grove
May Federman, Palm Grove
Anne Persandi, Palm Grove
Shirley Dorsey, Savanna Club
Paul Bongo, Palm Grove
Elizabeth Bongo, Palm Grove
Evelyn Spreitzer, Tropical Isles
Lynda Hugill, Palm Grove
Tom Hugill, Palm Grove
Jim Wilkins, Palm Grove
Fernand Albert, Palm Grove
Laverne Curtis, Palm Grove
Mary Adams, Palm Grove
Bob Gluck, Savanna Club
Joel Jeffrey, Savanna Club
Joe Weismanital, The Grove
Dave Dewitt, Indian River Estates Homeowners Association
Andrew Stark, Palm Grove
Herbert Schover
Corinn Schover
Dick Beck
Joan Beck
Otto Hein
Laureen Lenhart
Ken Kenhart
Ron Desmond
Robert Mello, Tropical Isles
Vincent Baia, Tropical Isles
Norton Field, Ocean Resorts
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Francis Winter, Lakewood Park
Rae Imprescia, Tropical Isles
Mary Lindy, Tropical Isles
John Lindy, Tropical Isles
Jan Urso, Tropical Isles
Betty Crume, Tropical Isles
Gerol Novak, Tropical Isles
Joan Parbus, Tropical Isles
Vince Wisdo, Palm Grove
Marion Wisdo, Palm Grove
Robert Simons, Mystic Pines Homeowners Association
Albert Dipalma, Palm Grove
John Frankenfield, Savanna Club Homeowners Association
Patricia Veatch, Lake Lucie Homeowners Association
Ginny Young
Harry Young
Wesley Klimmek, Palm Grove
Dorothy Klimmek, Palm Grove
Loretta Salsa no, Palm Grove
Joe Gotsens, Palm Grove
Carol Gotsens, Palm Grove
Marie Scioscia, Palm Grove
Janice Raasch, Tropical Isles
Ronald Raasch, Tropical Isles
Everett Terrio, Tropical Isles
Anne Jensen, Tropical Isles
Claire Twombly, Tropical Isles
Mark Boston, Nettles Island Homeowners Association
Vic Post, Nettles Island Homeowners Association
Emily Grande, South Hutchinson Island
John Gallagher, Tradition Homeowners Association
Angela Huff, Recording Secretary
1. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 9:05 a.m. and the Association was lead in the
Pledge of Allegiance by Commissioner John Bruhn.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF FEBURARY 11, 2004
A motion was moved and seconded to approve the minutes of the meeting held
February 11, 2004. The motion was carried unanimously by voice vote.
3. OLD BUSINESS
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A packet was distributed by Commissioner Bruhn's office in order to discuss old business.
4. NEW BUSINESS
There was no new business discussed. Instead, the guest speakers were introduced and
discussion ensued.
5. ST. LUCIE COUNTY SHERIFFS OFFICE REPORT
Captain Graves reported that the St. Lucie County Fair went well. He asked that anyone .
having questions or concerns see him after the meeting.
6. GUEST SPEAKERS:
DENNIS MURPHY: COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR
Dennis Murphy spoke about the following topics: The Midway Road Corridor,
concurrency, traffic circle improvements, and the Savanna Club intersection status
update,
Mr. Murphy stated that the County is in the process of some kind of change between
U.S,1 and 25th Street. He explained that the change could be nothing, an improved
two lane road or a four lane road. Mr. Murphy stated that the time it takes for a road
project is anywhere from seven to fourteen years. He explained the reasons for this
amount of time are paperwork and funding.
Mr. Murphy spoke about the intersection of Glades Cut-off and Midway Road. He
stated that those improvements should be completed by Mayor June of this year.
These road improvements are to accommodate the Wal-Mart Distribution Center which
will be completed and operating in September of this year.
Mr. Murphy spoke about the County's relationship with The Florida Department of
Transportation. He stated that the relationship is good.
Mr. Murphy spoke about the Metropolitan Planning Organization (M.P.O.) and what
their duties include,
Mr. Murphy spoke about traffic circle improvements status at Reserve Circle.
He stated that there is not a plan to remove the circle. The County is working with the
developers of St. Lucie West to get a permit from Department of Transportation to make
it safer for people driving around Reserve Circle. He explained that when the road is
widened the turning movement through that intersection for Westbound to Northbound
maneuvers will be re-evaluated to be more effective.
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Bill Hammer asked if there will be a deceleration and acceleration lane for that right
turn in, right turn out movement.
Mr. Murphy responded that there will not be an acceleration lane, but there will be a
turning lane.
Mr. Murphy spoke about Savanna Club and U.S.1. He explained that there is a permit
pending with Florida Department of Transportation (FOOT) to allow for a double left
turn lane to go southbound. He stated that even though there will be traffic impacts, the
County will do its best to monitor it.
Mr. Murphy then addressed any questions from the audience about Midway Road and
25th Street, Midway Road and Selvitz Road, the turnpike, The M.P.O., emergency
management concerns, and traffic problems.
JOSE VELARDE: FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
RICK MITINGER: FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
KEN JACKSON: KIMLEY HORNE AND ASSOCIATES
Jose Velarde spoke about the need for a signalized intersection at Sunshine Blvd. and
Tropical Isles. He stated that FOOT has done traffic counts at both areas and the
counts did not warrant it.
Rick Mitinger spoke about traffic signals. He explained that in order to warrant a traffic
signal there has to be at least 200 cars per hour for eight hours. He stated that according
to FOOT's traffic counts, there are not enough cars per hour.
Bob Bangert asked why the traffic counts are not done any other time except January,
February or March.
Mr. Mitinger explained that traffic counts have been done at different months during
the year and on different days throughout the week. He stated that FOOT will do anything
it takes to make driving conditions safe. He suggested FOOT making a signalized u-turn.
A citizen expressed her concern about the traffic from the businesses around Tropical
Isles,
Bill Hammer suggested that law enforcement could help curtail many potential accidents.
Several citizens expressed concern for the need for a signal light outside of Tropical Isles
and Palm Grove. Mr. Velarde replied that according to FOOT traffic studies, no traffic light
is warranted at this time, but it will be re-evaluated in the future. Discussion ensued.
Ken Jackson spoke about access management standards. These standards are set by
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the FDOT and cannot be deviated from. He also stated that according to
statistics, more accidents occur at traffic signals; although the accidents are less severe.
Mr. Jackson explained that the department is committed to making the roads safe
and traffic flow better. Mike Powley spoke about Lennard Road. He stated that it will take
approximately seven to ten years to complete the project. He explained that the County
would have to determine if Lennard Road is justified to tie into U.S.1 and how that is
going to affect Easy Street.
A citizen asked about the study on traffic and speed on Kings Highway from Indrio North
being completed.
Mr. Powley responded that no one is working on that project. He stated that the County
is undergoing a North County Charrette and staff is anxiously awaiting the results because
it will guide them on how the North County should or should not be developed. Indrio
Road will be a part of this.
7. ADJOURNMENT
Having no other business to discuss, the meeting adjourned at 11 :25 a.m.
THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE WEDNESDAY, APRIL 14, 2004 AT 9:00A.M.
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March 3,2005
FROM:
Property and Homeowners Representatives
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NOTICE:
At the February 9th Homeowners meeting, Commissioner Coward stated that the
March 9th meeting would be held in Growth Management's conference room
and possibly a tour of the department. After looking at the room, I feel it is too
small for this group and there is no recording equipment available, so the
meeting will be held in Conference room 3 on the third floor as usual. If you
would like to tour Growth Management at some point in time, please let me
know and I will arrange it with Mr. Ed Cox, Growth Management Director.
Thank you.
JOSEPH E. SMITH, District No.1. DOUG COWARD, District No.2. PAULA A. LEWIS. District No.3· FRANNIE HUTCHINSON, District No.4· CHRIS CRAFT, District NO.5
County Administrator - Douglas M. Anderson
2300 Virginia Avenue. Fort Pierce, FL 34982-5652 · (772) 462-1412
FAX (772) 462-2131 · TDD (772) 462-1428
www.co.st-Iucie.fl.us
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PROPERTY & HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION MEETING
µo.rCÝ\JfèD,.....,. 9, 2005,..., 9:00 a.m.
3rd Floor
Conference Room 3
AGENDA
1.) Call to Order ~ Commissioner Doug Coward, Chairman
.» Pledge of Allegiance
.» Self Introduction of Property & Homeowners Representatives and Members of the
Public
2.) Approval of the Minutes of February 9,2005
3.) St. Lucie County Sheriff's Office Report by Captain Graves
4.) Guest Speakers and Topic of Discussion:
A.) Marcela Camplor, Urban Design Coordinator with the Treasure Coast Regional
Planning Council
B.) Michael Brillhart, Special Projects Manager with St. Lucie County
C.) Ed Cox, Growth Management Director
D.) David Kelly, Planning Manager
.» Update on the North County Charrette
5.) Old Business ~ Discussion on ways to make government more "user-friendly"
.» Ed Mercado, Webmaster for Information Technologies will be available for any
questions the members might have regarding the County web page
6.) New Business ~ Select (or add) new topic of discussion from priority list for next month's meeting
7.) Adjournment
Please note. the next meeting will be April]3. 2005
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ST. LUCIE COUNTY
PROPERTY AND HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION
Minutes of Meeting
February 9, 2005
Convened: 9:00a.m.
Adlourned: 11 :50a.m.
This meeting of the Property and Homeowners Association was held Wednesday, February 9,
2005 at 9:00a.m. in Conference Room #3 of the St. Lucie County Administration Annex
Building, 2300 Virginia Avenue, Fort Pierce, FL 34982.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Charlie Brown, Indian River Estates
Craig Mundt, North Beach Homeowners Association
Bob Bangert, Holiday Pines Homeowners Association
Claire Twombly, Tropical Isles
Frank Monteleone, Spanish Lakes Country Club Village
Shirley Bulingham, Ocean Resorts
Charles Grande, Presidents Council of S Hutchinson Island
Bill Hammer, PGA Village
JoeAnne Severino, Spanish Lakes Fairways
Julie Orben, Lakewood Park
Jack Cayhill, South Beach
Peg Horrigan, Tropical Isles
ALSO PRESENT: Commissioner Doug Coward, District 2
Charline Burgess, Aide to Commissioner Coward
Commissioner Joe Smith, District 1
Carin Smith, Aide to Commissioner Smith
Eva 0' donnell, Aide to Commissioner Craft
Cheri Fitgerald, St. Lucie County MPO
Scott Herring, St. Lucie County Road Department
Karen Butcher, St. Lucie County Growth Management
Jody Bonet, St. Lucie County Transit Manager
Craig Hauschild, St. Lucie County Engineering
Staci Miller, Florida Department of Transportation
Jeff Mulis, Kimley-Horn and Associates
Captain Graves, St. Lucie County Sheriff s Department
Jan Urso, Tropical Isles
Joan Rogers, Tropical Isles
Mark Boston, Nettles Island
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CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 9:05AM. The Association was lead in the Pledge of
Alligience by Commissioner Coward. The Homeowners' representatives and the public in
attendance gave self-introductions.
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF JANUARY 12,2005
Bob Bangert moved to approve the minutes of January 12, 2005. Charlie Brown seconded the
motion and the approval carried unanimously by voice vote.
ST LUCIE COUNTY SHERIFFS REPORT
Captain Graves spoke about the newspaper article regarding the president cutting grants for law
enforcement.
The group discussed some suggestions for solutions as to the representative to contact.
Commission Coward stated that he would like Captain Graves to provide some Fact sheets to
follow up.
GUEST SPEAKERS AND TOPICS OF DISCUSSION
TRANSPORT AION ISSUES
CHERI FIZGERALD, MPO SUPERVISOR
LENNARD ROAD
JEFF MULLIS, P.E., KIMLEY-HORN & ASSOC'S
CRAIG HAUSCHILD, ST. LUCIE CO ENGINEERING
OVERVIEW ON TRAFFIC LIGHTS
SCOTT HERRING, ST. LUCIE CO ROAD AND BRIDGE
STACl MILLER, FL DEPT OF TRANSPORTATION
BIKE/PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES
KAREN BUTCHER, ST. LUCIE CO GROWTH MNGT.
NEW FIXED ROUTE SYSTEM
JODY BONET, TRANIT MANAGER ST. LUCIE CO.
Commissioner Coward introduced Cheri Fitzgerald. Ms. Fitzgerald introduced herself and spoke
about the Metropolitan Planning Organization (MPO). She gave a brief overview explaining that
the MPO provides input to the Department of Transportation. Ms. Fitzgerald told the group that
the MPO's major projects are long range plan and the transportation improvement program. She
explained that the MPO has a Technical Advisory Committee. This is a sub committee of the
MPO made up of engineers, planners and Department of Environmental Protection, and the
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school board. Another sub-committee of the MPO is the Citizens Advisory Committee which is
comprised of citizens from around St. Lucie County. Ms. Fitzgerald stated that the MPO is
getting ready to start on the regional long range plan. They are also getting ready to update their
transit development plan as well as congestion management plan system. Ms. Fitzgerald then
answered questions from the group. Staci Miller explained that it currently takes seven to ten
years for the Department of Transportation (DOT) to go through its process from project
development to completion especially when they use federal funds because there are federal
regulations and certain requirements that the Department must follow in order to use those
federal dollars. The Department is currently working to expedite that process. They have
entered into a new process called efficient transportation decision making or etdm. It is a new
method that will be able to shave years off of a project. The DOT is hoping that in the future
they can produce a product in a timelier fashion than in the past.
Commissioner Coward then introduced Jeff Mullis. Mr. Mullis gave an overview of a PD&E,
gave a history of the Lennard Road project as a whole and what can be expected over the next
year. He explained that a PD&E study is a project development and environment. It is a DOT
acronym for a study that meets the Federal requirements for qualification of gas tax dollars. Mr.
Mullis explained that it is a very detailed and lengthy process. He also explained that once they
have some idea of what the needs are for the area they do geometric layouts and find the best fit
for the roadway to serve the public needs. Mr. Mullis stressed that the public involvement
process is a key component of the PD&E Study. He explained that the objective of the study is
to look at the Corridor and identify impacts and then evaluate those impacts. The impacts are not
only physical but environmental and socio economic as well.
Kit Linberger asked Mr. Mullis if there will be any signalization at Savanna Club Blvd.
Mr. Mullis replied yes and the issue of signalization will be looked at.
Commissioner Coward agreed with Mrs. Linberger and stated that it doesn't make sense to have
a 4 way stop sign where there are so many residents.
Mr. Mullis continued to answer questions from the group and discussion ensued. Mr. Mullis
finished by encouraging everyone to go on the website Lennardroad.com to keep abreast of all
information and he then made available to the group copies of newsletters.
Commissioner Coward then introduced Scott Herring. Mr. Herring introduced himself as the
Road and Bridge Manager for St. Lucie County. Mr. Herring spoke about traffic signals and
multi-way stop signs. He explained that before a traffic signal or stop sign is installed it has to
be warranted and he explained that warrants are contained in the Manual on Traffic Control
devices. Primarily what is looked at before installing a traffic signal are volume and traffic
accidents. Mr. Herring explained that the department looks at a period of three years of accident
data and if there are five accidents that could have been prevented by installation of a traffic
signal, it is a possibility that one will be installed. He explained that what most people do not
realize is the number of rear end accidents is increased. Mr. Herring stated that Tropical Isles
does not meet the side street volumes to meet the traffic signalization requirements which are for
every eight hours there must be a minimum of one hundred fifty vehicles per hour. The Road
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Department once every six months sends the DOT a traffic accident report history and will
continue to do so. Mr. Herring then answered questions from the group and discussion ensued.
Claire Twombly pleaded with Mr. Herring to please look at installing a light at Tropical Isles and
expressed concern with the number of past and future accidents.
Mr. Herring replied that the Department cannot give everyone a traffic signal because there has
to be criterion followed. Discussion ensued.
Commissioner Coward asked Mr. Herring what additional steps homeowners can do to stay
involved in this process.
Mr. Herring replied to keep in touch with Jose Velarde of the DOT.
Commissioner Coward stated that Ms. Twombly should contact her district county commissioner
Frannie Hutchinson and the MPO that oversees and tries to influence state projects.
Commissioner Coward is not suggesting that through those processes one will not necessarily
succeed because DOT has guidelines. He stated that DOT needs to balance local project specific
issues with County wide transportation flow and do that so there are not so many traffic signals
that everyone is stopping every thirty-two seconds. Commissioner Coward suggested looking
for an alternative exit point that would be safer as opposed to relying on DOT to install a traffic
light at Tropical Isles and stated that the residents of that development should discuss it with
their district commissioner.
Commissioner Coward then introduced Karen Butcher from St. Lucie County Growth
Management. Ms. Butcher explained that she is the pedestrian bike path coordinator for St.
Lucie County. She stated that she does not work for the MPO but for the Board of County
Commissioners. Ms. Butcher gave a brief overview of the different types of facilities available
for bicyclists and pedestriàns and the upcoming available programs which include the widening
and extension of Lennard Road, and the widening of 25th Street from Midway to Edwards. They
have also submitted two transportation enhancement projects to the Florida Department of
Transportation. These are a pedestrian crossing at Ave J in the city of Ft. Pierce so that children
on the east side of the canal to C.A. Moore Elementary School can walk safefly so they do not
have to take the bus. In addition there is a proposed project to add a segment of sidewalk on St.
James that will connect Rivers Edge Elementary and Southern Oaks Elementary to the Oxbow
Eco Center Ms. Butcher explained that in Florida bicycles are legally a form of transportation
and does have a right to the road. Ms. Butcher then answered questions from the group.
Charlie Brown expressed concern about the bike path on Midway Road north side east ofU.S.1
in the vicinity of the fire station and asked Ms. Butcher to take a look at the bike path because it
is not being maintained properly.
Ms. Butcher replied that one of her goals is to establish a routine maintenance schedule for the
bike paths. She concluded her presentation by giving information out about the bicycle and
pedestrian advisory committee. Currently the County Attorney's office is drafting a resolution so
it can be approved by the Board of County Commissioners to get membership approved.
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Commissioner Coward then introduced Jody Bonet who is our Transit Manager. Ms. Bonet gave
a presentation about transit. She gave a history of transit and spoke about the Treasure Coast
Connector and provided informational pamphlets about the fees, and bus schedules. Ms. Bonet
then answered questions from the group.
Commissioner Coward stated that before the Treasure Coast Connector was initiated, St. Lucie
was the largest county in Florida without one. He explained that Phase I is the north-south
corridor along U.S.1, but Phase II makes it viable because the east-west links back into the urban
areas to connect with the dense corridors. Commissioner Coward is hopeful that the number of
riders will increase now that Phase II is implemented.
OLD BUSINESS
Charline Burgess provided a packet of answers to questions asked at January's meeting.
Craig Mundt complimented Ms. Burgess on the excellent job she did in helping to provide back
up material.
Kit Linberger expressed concern about the management of Savanna Club Apartments.
Commissioner Coward agrees that the management issue needs to be addressed and clarified.
He has asked the County Attorney to look at this issue.
John Ferrick expressed concern about flood plain issues
Commissioner Coward replied that the flood plain issue is not only a drainage issue but an
environmental issue as well and that it is being addressed by staff.
NEW BUSINESS
Commissioner Coward asked the group for their input on topics for discussion for next month's
meeting.
Bob Bangert expressed that he would like to talk about the North County Charrette.
Commissioner Coward stated that Ed Cox would like for the group to take a tour of the new
Growth Management Conference room. Mr. Cox would like explain his ideas for getting the
public more involved in the planning process. There was a brief discussion
as to the location of the next meeting.
Charles Grande suggested discussion of Growth Management issue at one meeting and save the
North County Charrette at a separate meeting.
Jack Cayhill wants the planning staff to research the developer when a new project is proposed.
The reason for this is some developers are not reputable.
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Commissioner Coward stated that one of the ways that Growth Management is striving to
become more citizen friendly is to have new touch screen computers so that the public can
ascertain information easily.
After further discussion it was decided that at next month's meeting there will be one hour for
general business discussion and the remainder of the meeting will be a presentation and a
question and answer session regarding the North County Charrette.
Ms. Unberger asked about the status of the annexation by Ft. Pierce.
Commissioner Coward gave a brief explanation of the annexation agreement.
ADJOUNMENT
Having no further business to discuss the Property and Homeowners Association Meeting
adjourned at 11 :50.
THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE WEDNESDAY, MARCH 9, 2005 AT 9:00A.M.
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COUNTY ADMINISTRATION
STRATEGY & SPECIAL PROJECTS
MEMORANDUM
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TO:
Doug Anderson, County Administrator
Ray Wazny, Assistant County Administrator
Faye Outlaw, Assistant County Administrator
FROM:
Michael Brillhart, Strategy & Special Projects Director
DATE:
February 21,2005
RE:
Notes from the February 14th-16th North County Charrette Citizens Master
Plan Consultants Meeting
Last week, the Treasure Coast Regional Planning Council held a three day meeting with
their various consultants who are involved with the preparation of the North County
Charrette Citizens Master Plan. The presentations from each of the consulting firms
provided an excellent opportunity to understand what has been accomplished thus far, as
well as, allowing for feedback to address specific unresolved issues.
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Each firm is anticipated to work with the Council in making appropriate changes and
presenting a more finalized version of their individual plan recommendations during the
next 4 week time frame. My notes from this meeting are attached.
There are several issues that need to be addressed by the County. It will be beneficial to
schedule a meeting with the impacted County Department Directors over the next week or
two to discuss these issues.
C: Board of County Commissioners
Ed Cox, Growth Management Director
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Notes from the February 14th - 16th North County Charrette
Consultants Meetinl!:
The following information was presented by Regional Planning Council staff and the
various consultants enlisted to analyze the North County Charrette Planning Area. The
information presented and the questions raised are part of the process used in the
preparation and implementation of the North County Charrette Master Plan.
Flow Wav/Water Mana2ement - (Howard Searcy)
· Is the flow way going to be funded by the County and/or other public entities or
by developers on a piece meal project by project basis?
· Some upfront financing could be absorbed by the Ft. Pierce Water Control
District.
· Design and hydrology modeling will proceed based upon comments from the
meeting
· Storm water drainage and attenuation levels should be 2" in 24 hours (minimum).
· What are the recommended organization, ownership, and operations of the Flow
way system????
Land Manae:ement - (Peter Spyke)
. Reuse of wastewater (reclamation) for reuse on open space is recommended
throughout the area. Use of nitrogen and phosphorous on citrus will promote
environmental sustainability and ecosystem restoration. Charging homeowners for
this service is recommended. Subsurface drip irrigation is a major component of
this operation.
. Interconnectivity to agriculture will help promote the ability of smaller farms to
be successful. Renting farm land to small farmers may be one of the only methods
in assisting small farms to survive.
. Implementing a Community Stewardship Program (CSP) is perceived as a
possible way to preserve land for agricultural, greenways, and conservation
purposes. In this program, it is possible to create a "Special Assessment District"
for residents of the Villages as a means of acquiring funds to implement the
Stewardship program.
. Smaller tracts of land (typically less than 100 acres) can be used for farmland.
However, small farms cannot survive based upon an economic commodities basis.
The ability of small farms to succeed within this region will require the growing
and harvesting of non-citrus (probably organic) products.
. The use of berms and buffers around Villages (+500 acres) should be minimized.
Instead, natural habitats such as uplands, agriculture, equestrian or cattle, and
passive recreation open space (meadows and savannahs) surrounding the Villages
can provide an excellent ecological system mix for integration of various land
uses.
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. A transitional process between private open space ownership and public
ownership needs to be coordinated by the County.
Transportation - (Wade Walker)
. The future transportation network model used for analysis is based upon a Year
2030 horizon. TCRPC has requested the consultant to provide a Year 2050
horizon as well. The current analysis reflects a need for various transportation
system improvements based upon projected growth.
· New 2 lane collectors and upgraded 4 lane roadways are recommended as future
improvements. 6 lane roadways are not recommended as part of this plan.
· St. Lucie must work with Indian River County on the location and alignment for
a new inter-county citrus based truck route west of 1-95.
· With an estimated 29,500 new residential units to be constructed by Year 2030,
forecast models are generating nearly 300,000 new daily vehicle trips on the
roadway system.
. A new truck route alignment using St. Lucie Boulevard has been formulated and
analyzed. The initial alignment prepared by the consultant includes: St. Lucie
Boulevard to Johnston Road; north to Indrio Road; and then west to 1-95. In
addition, the overall trip generation associated with development through the
Year 2030 warrants the construction of a new interchange along 1-95. The
recommended location for a new interchange is 1-95 at St. Lucie Boulevard
(roadway extension).
. Future year traffic demand did not reflect a need for either a Johnston Road
extension or an Emerson Avenue extension south of Indrio. However, these
extensions will enhance access management and improve traffic flow along
Indrio Road.
. Traffic mitigation efforts along major corridors will be needed. These could
include: intersection improvements, on-street parking, and 2 lane roadways,
interconnecting adjoining land uses.
. Reid Ewing recommends using a 45% trip capture rate. This is higher than the
rate used by the transportation consultants. However, using this rate could
substantially reduce future year vehicle miles traveled forecasts (a major
component for sustainable development).
Housin2 Analvsis - (Todd Zimmerman)
. Inside the Urban Service Area (USA) boundary, residential housing is
typically smaller, denser, and has a higher cost per square foot.
. On a sample 125 acre residential tract within this region, there is a land
efficiency ratio of 65%. Inside the USA will carry a density level of 8u/a
(980 units); outside the USA will carry a 6u/a density (750 units). There is a
higher transferability of use (sale or rental) per year inside the USA as
compared to outside the USA.
. 13% ofthe residential unit stock is for seasonal use.
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. Estimated Housing Values (Price per area) for new construction (2005):
Inside USA Outside USA
Rental Units: $ 76,000 $ 71,500
Condos: 162,500 145,000
Villas/Town homes 207,500 195,000
Single Family Detached 374,600 343,000
· The success of residential unit sales in each of the villages is dependant
upon project phasing, marketing, and the sequencing of retail. Additionally,
the use of a TDR program will help land developers in project phasing..
· Sales price premiums for individual units are reached when a residence is
located within 700 feet proximity to open space.
· Resident and Tenant Characteristics:
Inside USA: 41 % older single or couple, 34% younger single or
couple, 25% families.
Outside USA: 50% families, statistics for the remaining 50% are not
yet verified.
Land Development Ree:ulations (LDR's) within the l. Development Code-
(Victor Dover & Bill Spikowski)
. The County must establish "Regulatory" Plan language in the Development
Code that identifies the Towns, Villages, and Countryside (TVC) design
process. This language will allow land owners to construct a new Village
instead of using the current density entitlement.
. The initial recommendation by the LDR Consultants was to craft language
within the LDR that allows landowners the option of participating in the
TVC program or continuing under the existing entitlements. Currently, the
proposed 1,027 acre Indrio Grove DR!) would be allowed to construct
approximately 1,000 units as compared to possibly 7 ulc under the TVC
scenario.
· The "Hamlet" feature has been discontinued from further consideration due
to difficulties within the planning profession in establishing an appropriate
and universally accepted definition for a Hamlet. However, its initial
concept will most probably continue under the "neighborhood" scenario.
· Acceptable density thresholds and Floor Area Rations (FAR) pertinent to
the North County area have not yet been defined by the LDR Consultant.
· A TDR program based upon incentives must be established in order to
maximize the 60% open space/40% built environment density requirement
that is being recommended for the TVC concept.
· A conservation or agricultural easement to incorporate greenways and
public open spaces will be needed.
· The consultants are recommending that minimum density levels be agreed
upon and adopted by the County Board in order for the Village concept to
operate effectively.
· The Land Development Code needs to be form based. By this, site plans
would be reviewed against such possible considerations as street types, lot
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types, and/or building types (see Attachment 1) as a basis for regulating
development use activities. A "lot" compatibility matrix must be prepared.
. Based upon studies at the national level, a Village would need to have a
minimum density level of 21 units per acre in order to effectively support
transit service or meet the demand for an above surface parking garage.
. The County's Land Development Code must have a master regulating plan
However, in using the TVC option, it is possible for each specific
development to have its own individual regulating plan. This option must be
specified within the LDC.
. A Transfer of Development Rights (TDR) program will assist in making it
possible for developers to accumulate the land necessary to develop and
construct specific Villages in the North County.
Retail Market Analvsis - (Bob Gibbs)
· 1-95 @ Indrio Road is one of the last major interchanges in the region not
yet developed. It has an extremely high development and market potential.
· As per discussion with developers, land tracts are being purchased as
surplus for up to a 25 year development horizon.
· It is anticipated that Walmart is looking to construct a new retail facility on
Indrio Road just west of and adjacent to 1-95.
· National grocery store chains are willing to construct 2-3 years prior to
market demand in order to gain a competitive market edge.
· The most intense retail development is looking to construct facilities along
major intersections. The Kings Highway @ Indrio Road intersection is a
high priority for developers.
· In examining a Year 2030 development build-out horizon, it is estimated
that the North County could support approximately 1, 560,000 sq. ft. of
retail and 29,500 new residential units.
· A breakdown of the calculated retail demand analysis within the North
County study area through the Year 2030 includes:
16 comer stores
8 convenience centers
4 neighborhood centers
1 regional village center
These numbers are anticipated to decrease slightly as the housing analysis
is being modified.
· The Village Center is recommended to occur at the Kings Highway/Indrio
Road intersection and can serve a regional market.
· A convenient center at U.S. 1 and Indrio Road is recommended. This would
include 30,000 sq. ft. of commercial/retail including a small market, bank,
local retail, and small professional office.
· The study area could possibly support 32 new neighborhoods.
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TCRPC Comments - (Michael Busha & Marcela Camblor)
· A Towns, Villages, and Countryside (TVC) concept is being prepared as an
amendment to the Comprehensive Plan and LDRs. The TVC will function
as an element of the LDR and not as a zoning overlay.
· The Council is recommending a 60% open space/40% built environment for
a Village.
· A Village should consist of a minimum 500 acres.
· Recommending that a Village have a minimum built environment density of
7u1a.
· A prototypical neighborhood can be constructed on 125 acres with a
minimum density of6 ula (750 units).
· After looking at existing and committed development, there is
approximately 12,000 acres available within the study area. The majority
(8,700 acres) are outside of the Urban Service Area boundary.
· Density bonuses need to be established through a TDR credit program. The
initial recommendation is to base credits on units instead of acreage. As an
example, if a landowner has 20 acres in a zoned 1 ula tract, the owner could
use the 20 units as credits. In this example, 20 units would equate to 2
credits.
. There may be a need to have an independent Indrio Road corridor study.
On-street parking along Indrio Road was an initial consideration by various
consulting teams.
. Request the various consultants to expand their future year study time frame
to the Year 2050.
Outstandin2 Issues - (Entire Team)
· Minimum parcel size, minimum density and/or density thresholds.
· TDR bonuses and credits should reward developers who provide larger
amounts of open space/preservation habitat.
· The long term use, ownership, maintenance, and funding for the open space
and natural habitats surrounding Villages must be defined.
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ATTACHMENT 1
Building Types
Pallette
Civic
Perimeter - block apartment
Multi -story Office
Workplace
Courtyard apartment
Large- footprint structure (exceptions)
Mixed-use shop front (Main Street)
One-story shop front
Live/work row house
Corner store
Row house
Attached courtyard house
Park under row house
Full-size rear patio type
Linear building row house
Mansion apartment
Double house
Detached cottage
Side yard house
Detached house
Estate house
Farmhouse
Accessory structures (outbuildings)
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ITEM~- NEW BUSINESS
March 9,2005
Commissioner Coward and HOA representatives:
New order of speakers and topics of discussion that were requested at the December meeting.
1.) An update on the Civic Center,
2,) Update on new codes for billboards and political signs
3.) Building Official to speak regarding concurrency fees
Thanks,
Charline
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Douglas Anderson - Property and Homeowners Association Meeting
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Property and Homeowners Association Meeting
Anderson, Douglas; Outlaw, Faye; Wazny, Raymond
I am writing to thank all of the staff who were involved with the Property and Homeowners Association meeting this
morning. I thought staff did a great job presenting a tremendous amount of material, fielding difficult questions (at
times), and providing straight forward and useful information. I was proud to be a part of the St. Lucie County team.
Thanks,
Doug Coward
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PROPERTY & HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION MEETING
January 12, 2005..... 9:00 a.m.
Conference Room 3
AGENDA
1.) Call to Order ~ Commissioner Doug Coward, Chairman
> Pledge of Allegiance
> Self Introduction of Property & Homeowners Representatives and
Members of the Public
2.) Approval of the Minutes of December 8,2004
3.) St. Lucie County Sheriff's Office Report
4.) Guest Speakers:
> Vicki Williams, Consumer Outreach Coordinator with the Florida
Department of Financial Services ~ (The Department Regulates
Insurance Complaints)
> Jane Brom, FEMA Representative
5.) Old Business:
> See attached notes for discussion
6.) New Business:
> Select new topic of discussion from priority list for next month's
meeting
7.) Adjournment
Please note. the next meetinf will be FebruaTv 9. 2005
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ST. LUCIE COUNTY
PROPERTY AND HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION
Minutes of Meeting
December 8, 2004
Convened: 9:00a.m.
Adjourned: 11:15a.m.
This meeting of the Property and Homeowners Association was held Wednesday, December 8,
2004, at 9:00a.m. in Conference Room #3 of the Administration Annex Building, 2300 Virginia
Avenue, Fort Pierce, Florida.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Charlie Brown, Indian River Estates
Craig Mundt, North Beach Homeowners Association
Bob Bangert, Holiday Pines Homeowners Association
Barbara Daume, Villages of Lake Lucie
Claire Twombly, Tropicallsles/Ocean Resorts
Frank Monteleone, Spanish Lakes Country Club Village
Kit Linberger, Palm Grove Homeowners Association
Jack Cahill, South Beach Association
Charles Grande, Presidents Council of S Hutchinson Island
Bill Hammer, PGA Village
ALSO PRESENT: Commissioner Doug Coward, District 2
Charline Burgess, Aide to Commissioner Coward
Commissioner Chris Craft, District 5
Commissioner Joe Smith, District 1
Mark Boston, Nettles Island
JoeAnne Severino, Spanish Lakes Fairways
Jeanne Hearn, Indrio
John Ferrick, North Fork Property Owners
Emily Grande, Miramar Royal
Diane Shaw, Bel-Aire Estates
Ed Cox, St. Lucie County Growth Management
Jacquie Burgess, St. Lucie County Recycling
1. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 9:00a.m. The Association was lead in the
Pledge of Allegiance by Commissioner Coward.
2. SELF INTRODUCTIONS
Commissioner Doug Coward introduced himself and expressed that he is looking
forward to working with the Property and Homeowners Association in the coming
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year. The Homeowners' representatives and the public in attendance gave
self-introductions as well.
Charline Burgess provided the members with a list of topics that are often
discussed in the meetings. Commissioner Coward stated that he would like to
use this list to prioritize the topics that are considered to be the most important
at this time, so that he can focus on getting those issues resolved. He stated that
another concern of his is that everyone in the group agrees on the agenda format.
Before proceeding with the rest of the agenda, Commissioner Coward introduced
Commissioner Chris Craft and Commissioner Joe Smith; St. Lucie County's two
newest Commissioners.
Commissioner Craft introduced himself as the commissioner for district 5 and
expressed his happiness to be able to serve the citizens in St. Lucie County.
Commissioner Smith introduced himself as the commissioner for District 1 and
expressed his happiness to be able to serve the citizens in St. Lucie County.
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF NOVEMEBER 10,2004
Bill Hammer had a correction to the minutes of November 10, 2004. He stated
that the post office should change the way they deliver mail from curb side delivery
to walking routes - not working routes.
With this change made, Charlie Brown made a motion to approve the minutes.
Bob Bangert seconded the motion and the motion was carried unanimously by
voice vote.
4. OLD BUSINESS
Bob Bangert expressed concern about the traffic light on Angle Road and the traffic
light on 25th Street after crossing Juanita Avenue.
Bill Hammer expressed concern about the traffic light on St. Lucie West Blvd,
upon leaving Wal-Mart. He spoke about the alignment of the lanes at the end
of Bayshore Blvd. Mr. Hammer suggested a comprehensive traffic flow study be
conducted throughout the County.
Commissioner Coward replied that proper planning is the key to prevention of
traffic problems. He suggested asking Rick Chesser from Florida Department
of transportation (FDOT) and Scott Herring from the Road Department to attend
the next meeting.
John Ferrick expressed concern about political signs that are still displayed,
Commissioner Coward replied that Ed Cox could ask Code Enforcement to make
sure the signs will be removed.
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Charlie Grande suggested that it would be helpful if the County implemented a sign
ordinance like that of the City of Ft. Pierce.
Commissioner Coward stated that the County Attorney's office is in the process
of drafting a new sign ordinance.
Frank Monteleone stated that he would like for a representative from the state
insurance office to speak at the next meeting. He is concerned that people
are being treated unfairly.
JoeAnne Severino stated that someone from her park has had trouble with an
insurance adjuster,
Jack Cayhill stated that he contacted Barry Lanier the assistant to Tom Gallager
and he was very helpful.
Charlie Brown expressed concern about the Civic Center parking lot drainage
problem.
Commissioner Coward replied that he is aware of the problem and the solution
to the problem is a huge expense. Commissioner Coward stated that he has never
been in support of demolishing the Civic Center. The argument that it doesn't
generate any revenue is not a valid one because the Civic Center is not here to
make money. The Civic Center is here to provide seNices to the community.
Commissioner Coward stated that he urged Doug Anderson to put this item back
on the agenda so that Commissioners Craft and Smith have an opportunity
to give staff policy direction on which way to go. Commissioner Coward also
informed the group that the County is doing a campus plan for this area because
there are additional needs like office space, a traffic problem on the corner
of 23rd Street, a new regional park coming in at Lawnwood Stadium and a strong
desire to not bulldoze the woods.
Mr. Brown urged Commissioner Coward to please not ignore the problem of the
drainage.
Commissioner Coward agreed with Mr. Brown and stated that he is embarrassed
about the situation and while the drainage problem needs to be rectified,
unfortunately it is not considered to be as important as some of the other
needs of the County.
Kit Linberger questioned the status of Green River Parkway,
Commissioner Coward replied that it is moving forward. He explained that the
Northern piece should be completed by Spring, but could not say when the southern
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piece was going to be completed because the Martin County Commission has
has been wavering about whether they support it. Commissioner Coward stated
that he can get more information about it.
Bob Bangert stated that he does not want to see the A TV Park built. He stated
that it should be private and the County should have no involvement.
Jeanne Hearn questioned how projects get started if they are against the land use.
Commissioner Coward expressed his feelings about the A TV Park saying he is not
in support of it. Discussion ensued. Commissioner Coward stated that he will be
meeting with with Paul Phillips and Tim Coolican this afternoon to discuss the A TV
Park issue
Craig Mundt stated that it would be a good idea to make a list of specific questions
for guest speakers to address.
5. NEW BUSINESS
After discussing the list of topics, these were found to be the highest priorities:
The Civic Center, insurance and the traffic light at Palm Grove.
Kit Linberger would like a representative from FEMA speak at the same time as
the insurance representative because one person may have different information
than the other,
John Ferrick stated that many of the Homeowners Associations do not attend the
meetings. Many of these people live in the northwest section of Ft. Pierce.
He stated that we should try to get them to attend. Mr. Ferrick expressed
concern about the project on the SW corner of 25th Street and Midway Road
He stated that it is in a floodplain and will result in flooding of surrounding properties.
Charline Burgess informed the group that she sent informational packets regarding
the meeting to one hundred twenty people including the northwest section of
Ft. Pierce.
Commissioner Coward stated that he will think of some ideas to encourage
attendance. One of his ideas is to put information about the meeting on the St.
Lucie County Government Access Channel. He stated that he will ask Ed Cox to
have the Growth Management staff to take a second look at the project on 25th
Street, but to please be aware there are probably multiple layers of government
looking at the engineering.
Bob Bangert asked when the North County Charrette would be implemented.
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Commissioner Coward replied that himself. Randy Stevenson and Michael Busha
from the Treasure Coast Regional Planning Council will be going to Tallahassee to
discuss this project with the Department of Community Affairs. The County has
hired top notch professionals to help.
Commissioner Coward then asked the group if everyone was satisfied with the
agenda format.
Mr. Monteleone stated that he would like for the guest speakers be limited to one
half hour and the remainder of the meeting should be used by the
homeowners.
After further discussion. the agenda format was decided.
Commissioner Coward spoke about the importance of including citizens
in the development review process so that they can be aware of any projects
slated for the area in which they live. Commissioner Coward stated that
that he had spoke with Ed Cox about simplifying the current grid system so that it
will be more user friendly. The grid is used to track upcoming developments.
Bill Hammer suggested that the cities of Ft. Pierce and Port St. Lucie provide
St. Lucie County with information regarding issues in their jurisdiction.
6. ST. LUCIE COUNTY SHERIFFS DEPARTMENT REPORT
There was no Sheriffs Department report for the month of December.
7. GUEST SPEAKERS:
ED COX: GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR
Ed Cox introduced himself and informed the group of his job function. Some
of the changes in the Growth Management Department will be a more
improved development review process so that the technical evaluation
includes the attitude of the community for what area the developer is in,
community meetings sponsored by the developers, become more automated
and hire more staff. Another goal as the new Growth Management Director
is to change the Land Development Code.
Commissioner Coward stated that he is happy to have Mr. Cox as a part of the
Growth Management staff as well as Faye Outlaw our new Assistant
County Administrator. Ms. Outlaw will be assisting the Growth Management
Departments as well as others to better assist the citizens of St. Lucie County.
Commissioner Coward stated that we need more community neighborhood
planning like the North County Charrette and White City Charrette.
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Mr, Ferrick expressed concern that there will not be enough attendance at
the White City Charrette because there is not enough information about it
and the timing is bad because of the holidays being so close. He is also
concerned because it has not been advertised in the paper as yet.
Commissioner Coward agreed that it is short notice and although the White
City Charrette will not be as big of an event as the North County Charrette,
he gave the reasons why he thinks it is so important and has been instrumental
in making this event happen. Commissioner Coward stated that the Charrette
is not about transportation as much as land use. He made the point that growth
is coming and if nothing is said about what is built there will a Cumberland
Farms Store on every corner. When residents in the community are
involved, they can help create the vision to dictate how the land will be used,
Discussion ensued.
JACQUIE BURGESS: ST. LUCIE COUNTY RECYCLING
Jacquie Burgess introduced herself to the group as the manager of St. Lucie
County Recycling, Ms. Burgess spoke about Waste Pro and said that she is
happy A 1 A is cleaned up. She stated that while a lot of the garbage remains
a lot is gone and the haulers who were working with FEMA have left. Waste
Pro will resume pick up of hurricane debris hopefully this week,
Charles Grande suggested using inmates from the jail to help with trash removal.
Ms. Burgess replied she has e-mailed the sheriff and got no response, but will
try again. She urged everyone to please be patient and give Waste Pro a little
time to adjust and learn the routes. She encouraged anyone having questions to
call her at 462-5678.
Jeanne Hearn expressed concern about trash in the right-of-way of the Country
Club Mobile Home Park.
Ms, Burgess replied that she would call Waste-Pro to take care of the problem.
Having no further business to discuss the meeting adjourned at 11: 15a.m.
THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 12, 2005 AT 9:00A.M.
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To: Commissioner Doug Coward
HOA members
From: Charline Burgess, Ex. Aide
At the December 8th meeting of the HOA, the following were reported or questions asked:
A.) Ms. JoeAnne Severino reported that the street light had been down at the
intersection ofIndrio and Johnston Roads since the hurricanes,
Answer ~ I contacted Florida Power and Light Co., and our contact person
went out that night to take a look at it and put in a work-order on
Dee. 1 fI1' for the repair to be done. He did not send me a time
frame.
B.) Ms. Kit Linberger asked whether or not FDOT would reconsider the red-light to
help Palm Grove and Tropical Isle residents get out onto U.S. #1 now that the new
Charlie's Dodge being constructed across the street would add more congestion to
U.S, #1.
Answer - I contacted Scott Herring, Road and Bridge Manager. Attached
are the e-mails that were sent back to him from FDOT, and his
letter addressed to Jose Velarde, Engineer at FDOT on Aug. 30,
2004.
C.) Several members asked about "guidelines in case of disaster."
Answer ~ For members with computers go to www.co.st-lucie.flus and
click on disasters under the Public Safety link, otherwise you
may call the St Lucie County Public Safety Department at 772-
462-1736 to inquire about pamphlets.
D.) Ms. Hearn asked Jacquie Burgess to check on trash in the right-of-way of Country
Cove Mobile Home Park.
Answer ~ Ms. Burgess made a field check of the hurricane debris, and she
is still investigating this, FEMA should have picked it up before
they left St Lucie Co. I should have an answer from her before
the Jan. 1:J1h meeting.
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E.) Mr, Bangert asked when the North Co, Charrette would be implemented.
Answer ,..., Comm. Coward will provide a brief update on his trip to
Tallahassee with TCRPC to meet with DCA regarding the
charrette.
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To: Burgess, Jacquie
Subject: Re: Country Club Mobile Home Park
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Thanks Jacquie, I'll include this in the packet and maybe we'll have an update by the meeting on Jan. 12th.
Charline
»> Jacquie Burgess 1/5/05 12:25:PM »>
Charline,
From what I understand per Craig Hauschild - Country Cove has already had three pick-ups before the Nov. 01
cut-off date. I am still trying to seek more assistance - but I do not believe FEMA is still here. I will follow up
with you on what I should learn.
Jacquie
Charline Burgess 1/3/2005 1:23:49 PM »>
Hi Jacquie,
At the last HOA meeting, Ms. Hearn reported that there was trash in the right-of-way at the above Park, do you
know if this was taken care ot?
Thanks,
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January 12, 2005
Commissioner Coward and HOA representatives:
New order of speakers and topics of discussion that were requested at the December meeting.
1.) Scott Heming with Rick Chesser or Lois Bush from FDOT to talk about the requested
traffic light at Palm Grove and give an update on Lennard Road..
2.) An update on the Civic Center.
3.) An update on the proposed ATV Park
4.) Update on new codes for billboards and political signs
Thanks,
Charline
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Date: 12/15/04 11 :54:AM
Subject: Fwd: SR-5 corridor, FM#: 230288-2-52-01, Request by St.Lucie county to reviewsite
plan layout, charlie do
As discussed.
Scott
»> <jose.velarde@dot.state.fI.us> 9/10/2004 10:27:06 AM »>
Mark:
We have received a request from St.Lucie county, Scott Herring, to review
site layout from Charlie Dodge opposite Sunshine Blvd. entrance to the
Grove Communities and see if this improvement will be considered in
possible implementation of a signal. I spoke to Scott Herring on this
issue and told him that normally site plan evaluation is done through our
permitting office. He understood our procedure but was providing this site
plan at the request of the St.Lucie County Property and Homeowners
Association at their last meeting. I am attaching a copy of this e-mail
with a copy of the site plan submitted, our roadway layout and letter from
St.Lucie county for your input on this matter. Please note that at the
request of SUucie county the Department approved providing U-Turn signals
north of sunshine blvd. intersection with sr-5, at Ulrich road. They are
asking that we consider the impacts to the future intersection, Sunshine
Blvd. by this development. Thank you for your assistance.
Jose A. Velarde, P .E.
Consultant Management
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iose. velarde@dot.state,fI.us
954-777-4677
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From: Scott Herring
To: Charline Burgess
Date: 12/15/0411 :54:AM
Subject: Fwd: Re: SR-5 corridor, FM#: 230288-2-52-01, Request by St.Lucie county toreview
site plan layout, charli
Another one!
Scott
»> <jonathan.overton@dot.state.fI.us> 9/13/2004 4:25:19 PM »>
I have quickly looked at a Charlie's Dodge site plan dated July 6, 2004.
The St. Lucie County cover letter dated August 30, 2004 from Mr. Scott
Herring indicates that the site will be directly across from Sunshine
Boulevard but is not specific to driveway location and the July 6 site plan
doesn't show the Sunshine Boulevard approach in relation to the site plan's
driveways.
Secondly, I doubt that a car dealership, even if its driveway aligns with
Sunshine Boulevard, would generate enough side street traffic to warrant a
traffic signal. I, therefore, recommend that the Department not change its
Sunshine Boulevard intersection control position.
Heslop,
I will forward to you hardcopy of these documents for the file.
thanks
Jonathan M. Overton, P.E.
Assistant District Traffic Operations Engineer
Florida Department of Transportation
Toll Free 866-336-8435
Direct Line (954) 777-4376
Office Fax (954) 777-4398
Jose
Velarde/D4/FDOT
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