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ST. LUCIE COUNTY
INVESTMENT COMMITTEE
SPECIAL MEETING
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Date: April 23, 2008 Convened: 8:10 a.m.
Tape: 1 Adjourned: 9:00 a.m.
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Present: Howard Conklin, Chairman; T.J. Buckley, Todd Bevan;
Edwin M. Fry, Jr., Clerk of Circuit Court; Shai Francis, Finance
Director; Lauri Heistermann, Deputy Clerk
Absent: Chris Fogal, excused; Mike Dillman, Un-excused
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Tape 1
I MINUTES
The meeting was opened by Howard Conklin, Chairman.
The minutes from the January 23, 2008 meeting were reviewed. It
was moved by T.J. Buckley and seconded by Todd Bevan to approve
the minutes from the January 23, 2008 meeting; and upon roll call
motion carried unanimously.
The minutes from the March 19, 2008, Special meeting were
reviewed. It was moved by T.J. Buckley and seconded by Howard
Conklin to approve the minutes from the March 19, 2008 Special
Meeting; and upon roll call motion carried unanimously.
II. PRESENTATION OF QUARTERLY INVESTMENT REPORT
The Clerk of Circuit Court presented the quarterly investment
report for St. Lucie County for March 31, 2008.
The Clerk of Circuit Court reviewed the investment schedule as of
March 31, 2008.
The Clerk of Circuit Court stated that the total investments are
$368,260,303. He stated that the market value reflected was
$358,847,989 and this is because there is no market value for
Fund B in the State Board of Administration. He stated that there
is $12,548,983 in Fund B. He informed the Committee that we have
not had the ability to draw down from Fund A.
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He stated that those funds are available, but there is a cost of
2% if we draw down when it is not opened by the State Board of
Administration for draw down.
Howard Conklin asked when the last draw down from the State Board
of Administration occurred.
The Clerk of Circuit Court stated that the last withdrawal was
January 18, 2008.
The Finance Director stated that there was $1,080,000 transferred
to Fund A.
Todd Bevan questioned the restrictions on Fund A.
The Clerk of Circuit stated that there really is no restriction
on Fund A. He stated that if we wanted to withdraw the balance
of $76,818,150 today, we could do so, but there is a 2% charge.
He informed the Committee that the last time we were able to
withdraw funds without paying the redemption fee was in January,
2008. He stated that at that point there were funds withdrawn
out of the pool. He informed the Committee that back in
December, 2007 we had about $143,000,000 in the State Board of
Administration and as of March 31, 2008 there was only
$88,000,000. He informed the Committee that the investment
earnings are also available from time to time.
Howard Conklin asked what was happening statewide.
The Clerk of Circuit Court stated that there were a couple of
County’s that decided to go ahead and pay the redemption fee and
pull all of their funds out, but it had been isolated. He
advised the Committee that the State Board of Administration had
contracted with Federated to manage Fund A. He stated that the
State is looking for a new Executive Director for the State Board
of Administration, which will be overseen by Federated. He
stated that he felt that within the next 9 to 18 months Fund B
should be resolved based on comments from the State level.
Howard Conklin requested that the website for the State Board of
Administration be provided to the Investment Committee members so
that they could request periodic e-mail communications.
The Clerk of Circuit Court reviewed the schedule of SBA
Investment Activity as of March 31, 2008. He informed the
Committee that the Fund B balance right now is about $11,500,000.
The Clerk of Circuit Court reviewed the US Treasury Portfolio as
of March 31, 2008. He stated that the face amount is $63,871,851
and the market value is $67,008,520.
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Howard Conklin asked that if the County was to sell any of the 5
year T-Notes, what the penalty would be.
The Clerk of Circuit Court stated there would be no penalty.
Howard Conklin suggested that the Money Managers liquidate the 5
year T-Notes if they feel that the market value would be lost.
The Clerk of Circuit Court reviewed the Money Market account as
of March 31, 2008. He informed the Committee that the Money
Market account currently has $164,391,906.25. He stated that
there is $8,000,000 in Certificate of Deposits. He informed the
Committee that we would be purchasing additional Certificates of
Deposit with Gulfstream Bank based on results through the bid
process. He stated that the 13 month rate was 3.75%, the 5 month
rate was 3.25% and the 25 month rate was 4.0%.
Howard Conklin recommended changing Bear Stearn to JP Morgan due
to the take over.
The Clerk of Circuit Court stated that we utilize Bear Stearn and
Suntrust as a money market alternative.
The Finance Director informed the Committee that the Reserve
Primary fund with Bear Stearns does not exist anymore. All of
the funds go directly to Black Rock.
Todd Bevan recommended keeping track of what is going on with the
investments with Bear Stearns and Suntrust. He stated that he
felt Suntrust was still pretty solid.
The Clerk of Circuit Court stated that all investment activity
was in compliance with the bid process as outlined in the
Investment Policy. All of the investment categories and portfolio
composition percentages are in accordance with the Investment
Policy.
III. OPEN ITEMS
1.Status of RFP – Investment Management Services
The Clerk of Circuit Court informed the Committee that he
had requested that he be placed on the Board of County
Commissioners agenda for the April 22, 2008 meeting to
request that the Board approve moving forward with the
Investment Management Services.
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He stated that the County Administrator contacted him and
stated that he was not sure this required Board approval.
The County Administrator was going to talk to the County
Attorney and pull the item from the Agenda. He informed the
Committee that he and the Finance Director had reviewed the
Investment Policy and could not find where Board approval
was required for Money Managers, since the Investment Policy
had been changed to incorporate Money Managers. He informed
the Committee that had sent written correspondence to the
County Administrator agreeing that it did not require Board
approval. He thanked the Committee members for taking the
time to meet with the Commissioners regarding the Money
Managers. He informed the Committee that at this time we
were preparing a draft agreement that will be sent to the
top three firms.
Howard Conklin stated that time is of the essence due to the
status of the market.
The Clerk of Circuit Court stated that we had received a
draft agreement from PFM, Sawgrass and Capital Guardian. He
stated that all three draft agreements were pretty similar.
He stated that $105,000,000 will come out of the money
market account to be distributed equally between the 3 Money
Managers. This will take the money market account from
$164,000,000 to about $60,000,000. He informed the
Committee that at this time we will leave the funds that are
in the Florida Local Government Investment Trust alone. He
recommended to the Committee that we liquidate all of the 5
year treasuries and keep all of the 2 year treasuries until
maturity. He stated that there is about $24,000,000 face
value in the 5 year treasuries.
Howard Conklin stated that this was an excellent
recommendation.
The Clerk of Circuit stated that since we were moving toward
the Money Managers to manage the longer term portfolio, the
money obtained from the liquidation of the 5 year treasuries
could be utilized for the Money Managers. He informed the
Committee that internally we would only deal with
investments of 1 year or shorter.
Todd Bevan asked if there would be anyway to do a comparison
between the 3 Money Managers and what they had invested in.
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The Clerk of Circuit Court stated that to some extent the 3
money managers will have money invested in the same types of
investments because they are all bound by the County’s
Investment Policy in terms of Treasuries and agencies with a
maturity of 5 years or less.
Howard Conklin asked if the portfolios for each Money
Manager would be exchanged between the Money Managers.
The Clerk of Circuit Court stated that this was not
considered. He stated that his vision was to allow each
Money Manager to invest $35,000,000 in the way they felt was
the best for the County and independently. He stated that
after an 18 month period of time we would have a better idea
on how each Money Manager was performing. He stated that it
was possible that in a two year period of time we could look
at expanding what the Money Managers could do.
Todd Bevan asked for a snapshot of the portfolio on a
quarterly basis.
The Clerk of Circuit Court stated that this would be
required as part of the agreement. He stated that also as
part of the agreement, they must be available to answer any
questions during the quarterly meetings by conference call.
Also, upon the Investment Committees request, they could be
required to attend a quarterly meeting.
Todd Bevan asked if any of the Money Managers stated that
the Investment Policy was to conservative.
The Clerk of Circuit Court stated that they all recognize
that the Investment Policy is conservative, but it is a
governmental agency.
Howard Conklin stated that he would be interested in hearing
feedback from the Money Managers about what other
governmental entities are investing in.
The Clerk of Circuit Court stated that he was sure that as
we move forward the Money Managers are going to have
recommendations to diversify the risk and pick up the yield.
Howard Conklin stated that the meetings with the
Commissioners went well.
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The Clerk of Circuit Court stated that the recommendation
would be to liquidate all of the 5 year treasuries, hold on
to all of the 2 year treasuries until maturity and not
purchase anymore treasuries. The goal at this point in time
would be to manage short term investments internally of 1
year or a little more in Certificate of Deposits or Money
Market accounts with the longer term investments being
managed by the Money Mangers.
It was moved by Todd Bevan and seconded by T.J. Buckley to
approve the recommendation; and upon roll call motion
carried unanimously.
The Clerk of Circuit Court stated that by next week we
should have the agreements with the Money Managers signed
and the money transferred to the bank. He informed the
Committee that we already have the agreement with US Bank
and $35,000,000 will be deposited into the 3 different
accounts and each Money Manager will have access to those
funds. He stated that any trade that the Money Manager
executes will be copied to the County so that investments
can be monitored. All trades will be done delivery vs.
payment. He informed the Investment Committee that it will
be challenging for the County over the next two years due to
the drop off in revenues of about $51,000,000.
IV.COMMITTEE COMMENTS/RECOMMENDATIONS
There were no comments/recommendations
V.SELECT DATE OF NEXT MEETING
The next scheduled Investment Committee meeting is scheduled
for July 23, 2008 at 8:05 a.m.
VI.
There being no further business the meeting was adjourned at
9:00 a.m.
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