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ST. LUCIE COUNTY
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SMART GROWTH ADVISORY AD HOC COMMITTEE
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ST. LUCIE COUNTY, FLORIDA
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2300 Virginia Avenue
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Growth Management
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Conference Room Number1
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November 24, 2008
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3:00 P.M.
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Please see the Minutes of the February 12, 2009 Smart Growth Committee
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Meeting for Clarification on page 3 lines 1, 36 and 37.
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(Page 2 Line 37)
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A compact disc recording of this meeting, in its entirety, has been placed in the file along with these
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minutes as part of the record. In the event of a conflict between the written summary minutes and the
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compact disc, the compact disc shall control.
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I. CALL TO ORDER
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Chair Mary Chapman called the meeting to order at 3:07 P.M.
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Roll Call
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Mary Chapman ............................. Chair
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Noreen S. Dreyer ......................... Vice-Chair (arrived shortly after roll)
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Marty Sanders ............................. Committee Member
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Rick Reikenis ............................... Committee Member (arrived 3:15)
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Sam Comer .................................. Committee Member
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Michael Houston ......................... Committee Member (arrived shortly
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after roll)
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Ramon Trias ................................. Committee Member
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David Kelly…………………………Committee Member
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MEMBER ABSENT:
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Larry Storms ................................. Committee Member
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Patricia A. Ferrick ......................... Committee Member
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STAFF PRESENT
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Peter W. Jones, AIA ..................... Planning Manager, Long Range Planning
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Dawn Milone ............................... Recording Secretary
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Britton Wilson ……………………. Senior Planner
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Kara Wood…………………………Planning Manager, TVC
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OTHERS IN ATTENDANCE
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Nancy Offutt, Treasure Coast Builders Association
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Gail Kavanaugh, Treasure Coast Builders Association
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Cindy Green
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ANNOUNCEMENTS
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Mr. Jones briefed the commission on why the decision was made not to meet
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as a Joint Committee any longer. Mr. Jones stated, after meeting with Sandra
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Bogan, Commissioner Coward and Assistant County Administrator, Lee Ann
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Lowery (individually), it was determined that the Sustainability Committee will
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focus on Non-Plan Development issues, the Environmental Committee is in
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the process of finding their focus, and the Smart Growth Committee needs to
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focus on the Land Development Code, to better reflect Smart Growth
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principles and establish specific targets and a schedule in order to make
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recommendations to the Board of County Commissioners.
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1. Approval of the Minutes from October 6, 2008 (Joint Meeting)
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Mr. Kelly motioned to approve the minutes.
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Ms. Dreyer second
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Motion Carried unanimously.
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2. Brief Review of Long Term Regulatory Objectives.
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A.Smart Growth Audit
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B.Leed For Neighborhood Development
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Rating System Pilot Program
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The Committee and staff discussed how to recommend to the Board of
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County Commissioners (BOCC) incorporation of Green Building Regulations
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(soon to be mandated by the state), the Towns, Villages and Country Side
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(TVC) Land Use Principles (development regulations), Evaluation and
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Appraisal Report (EAR), Smart Growth Audit and Transfer of Development
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Rights (TDR) into the Land Development Code (LDC).
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Ms. Wood briefed the committee on the information she receive while
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attending the Smart Code Conference in North Carolina.
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Ms. Wood stated the benefits TVC provide is its basic frame work, the appeal
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for Transect Base Planning and the range of issues that we are dealing with
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now (TDR question on a different level and purpose in terms of the Western
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Land) Smart Code might be a great bone structure to use to fill in what the
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community believes is the greatest needs for St. Lucie County.
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It was questioned how this would apply to infill projects within developed
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areas.
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Ms. Wood said the Form Based Code did address these issues as well
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because it provides a tool box of things you can draw from then put into plan
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types that are appropriate in different areas of development.
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Ms. Wood went on to explain, you would not adopt the Smart Code in place of
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our existing code (LDC) but “ let it ride on top” of our existing code. It would
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be a Community choice and that the cities might be willing to consider. Ms.
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Wood feels that this would be a fantastic opportunity to have a coordinated
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land use plan between the municipalities.
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The Committee discussed mass transit, urban services boundaries,
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annexation, mixed use development and how careful the committee must be
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on how to go about structuring incentives verses additional baggage that
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would force a project to go somewhere else.
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Mr. Jones suggested that the Committee make basic principle
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recommendations that touch on density, traffic concurrency, and
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transportation. If the Commissioners are willing to move in this direction then
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the Committee can focus on Smart Growth Principles.
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Someone (not able to recognize the voice) asked Mr. Jones if he could get
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the Commissioners to give a blessing that there are areas that support and
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benefit from increased density and are willing to abide by it and not be
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swayed by the people abutting infill.
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The committee agreed that this would be a very difficult sell but someone has
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to stand up and say it first and it should be the Smart Growth Committee.
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The Committee feels they should craft some of the almost by right density
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increase and develop it as a Smart Growth Principle.
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Ms. Wood showed drawings of transect based planning model. Stating there
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are six zones starting from a completely natural environment to the most
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urban of environments. She explained how one would calibrate this process
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into the community. She went on to say; in order to get quality environment
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you need to have quality urbanism by moving away from draconian zoning
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laws that really just looks at what land is used for rather than the vision of how
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it is going to develop and looking more at how we can be more flexible with
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the uses to allow cities to grow and change over time. Adopting these
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standards by rights, would allow you not to go through the public hearing
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process.
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Mr. Jones agreed that he (Kara and Britton) would take a stab at this.
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Mr. Jones asked the committee to think about what are some basic premises
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to do with transportation, densities, housing issues and employment centers
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etc.
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Ramon Trais offered and the Committee accepted that he make a
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presentation at the next meeting. He agreed.
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5. Other Business
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Mr. Jones will extract from the LDC information important to Smart Growth.
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Ms. Wood will do the same with the TVC regulations.
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The committee discussed the community transit system, the school busing
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situation, and the discrepancies in the LDC.
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6. Set Next Meeting Date
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The next meeting will take place on December 8, 2008 at 3:00 p.m. in Growth
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Management Conference Room One.
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The following agenda items not addressed will be discussed at the next
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meeting.
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3. Establish Specific Goals Objectives For 2009 In Terms Of,
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A.Integrating Smart Growth Principles Into County Regulatory
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Procedures.
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B.Ultimate Recommendations To BOCC
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4. Review Tentative Schedule for Completion
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This meeting adjourned at 4:43 p.m.
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