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ST. LUCIE COUNTY
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SMART GROWTH ADVISORY AD HOC COMMITTEE
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ST. LUCIE COUNTY, FLORIDA
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2300 Virginia Avenue
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Growth Management
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Conference Room One
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February 12, 2009
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3:00 P.M.
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A compact disc recording of this meeting, in its entirety, has been placed in the file along
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with these minutes as part of the record. In the event of a conflict between the written
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summary minutes and the compact disc, the compact disc shall control.
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I. CALL TO ORDER
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Chair Mary Chapman called the meeting to order at 3:07 P.M.
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ROLL CALL
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Mary Chapman ............................. Chair
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Noreen S. Dreyer ......................... Vice-Chair
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Sam Comer .................................. Committee Member
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Michael Houston ......................... Committee Member (arrived shortly
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after roll)
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Ramon Trias ................................. Committee Member
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David Kelly…………………………Committee Member (arrived shortly
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after roll)
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Larry Storms ................................. Committee Member
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Patricia A. Ferrick ......................... Committee Member
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MEMBER ABSENT:
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Rick Reikenis .............................. Committee Member
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Marty Sanders ……………………Committee Member
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STAFF PRESENT
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Robin Meyer ................................. Assistant Director, Growth Management
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Britton Wilson ……………………. Senior Planner
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Kara Wood…………………………Planning Manager, TVC
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OTHERS IN ATTENDANCE
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J.P. Gellerman
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H.M. Ridgley
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ANNOUNCEMENTS
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None
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2. Election of Chair
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Ms. Chapman motioned to elect Ramon Trias as Chair
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Mr. Storms seconded
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Motion carried unanimously.
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Election of Vice Chair
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Ms. Ferrick motioned to elect Mary Chapman as Vice Chair.
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Ms. Dreyer seconded.
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Motion carried unanimously.
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Review minutes of the November 24, 2008 Meeting
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Mr. Kelly asked staff to listen to the recording of the November 24, 2008
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meeting to clarify the interpretation of the minutes.
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After listening to the recording (56.40 minutes into recording) it was
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determined that on page 3 line 22 “abutting was the correct word (not butting).
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Not able to recognize the person’s voice, on page 3 line 20 was change from
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The Committee “to someone”.
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Page 2 lines 36 to 40 (44.20 minutes into recording) line 40 the word in was
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changed to the word “for”.
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Page 3 lines 37 to 38 (1.02 minutes into recording) Line 38 after (the word)
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standards, “by rights” was inserted.
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Ms. Ferrick wanted to know for clarification on Page 3 Line 1 what counties
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have a Form Based Code.
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St. Lucie County does have a Form Based Code which is in the TVC area.
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Mr. Kelly wanted this to be noted on page 3 lines 1, 36 and 37.
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This notation was made on page one of the November 24, 2008 minutes. It
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Please see the Minutes of the February 12, 2009 Smart Growth
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Committee Meeting for Clarification on page 3 lines 1 , 36 and 37”.
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During this conversation Mr. Trias asked the committee to say “for the record”
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if they wanted their opinion stated in the minutes”.
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All of the questions regarding the minutes have been addressed and
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corrected.
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Mr. Kelly motioned to approve the minutes with the above changes made.
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Ms. Chapman seconded.
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Motion carried unanimously.
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3. Old Business
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A. Brief Staff Up- Date
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Ms. Wood, Mr. Meyer and the committee agreed staff up-dates were
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discussed during the approval of the minutes.
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B.TVC Follow Up
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This conversation will take place with New Business.
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4. New Business
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A. Review Discussion of Draft Smart Growth
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Recommendations.
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Before the discussion began it was agreed that the Chair of the Smart Growth
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Committee would discuss the agenda with staff prior to meetings.
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Item number 3 B under Old Business (Ramon Trias Presentation) will not take
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place today. (Let it be noted Mr. Trias was prepared to give his presentation).
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The committee had a lengthy discussion regarding the Smart Growth Draft
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Recommendations they received in their agenda package.
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It was the determined that the Smart Growth Committee would work off the
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Smart Growth Draft Recommendations and focus on:
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Making recommended policy statements to achieve Smart Growth
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County wide (Smart Growth Committee and Staff).
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Density, Urban Form, Housing and Parking. Open Space/Green Space
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will be commented on in the area of Density (Smart Growth Committee
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and staff).
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Using Form Based Zoning per the TVC Area.
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Direction of Growth (Smart Growth Committee).
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Efficient Land Consumption (staff).
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Land Uses, to create zoning that provide at least one or more zoning
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districts that allow mixes of residential and commercial (Smart Growth
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and staff).
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Transportation (Smart Growth)
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Land Use and Jobs-Housing Balance (one) would be modified to
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suggest, that under considered strengthening the local zoning
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ordinance to provide for traditional neighborhood development by
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creating two new land use designations. One known as neighborhood
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the other district.
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Mr. Trias stated, for the record (approximately 40. 30 minutes into the
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recording) “he would like to create an overlay zoning category or two,
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neighborhood and district that were smaller than the 135 acres. Probably 20
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acres 10 acres, I don’t know we will talk about that. That had very good
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criteria in that category, with mixed use and the different things that we think
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are important. Therefore change the land Use specifically in relatively small
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increments in places that strategically make sense”.
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Mr. Trias feels this is a practical way of not having to throw away the code
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and not having to redo the code and have one more tool. Like a mini PUD,
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that deals with TVC issues.
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One proposal the committee would like is to do a Comprehensive Plan
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Amendment to allow for (two new) Land use Designations, Neighborhood
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(more residential) and District (more works related downtown type and
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specialized use). This code would follow transect and form based codes with
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similar regulations to the TVC. This concept would be applied to anywhere in
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the county or within some general areas of the county and in small
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increments.
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The committee would like staff to confirm, create and evaluate where Mixed
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Use is appropriate and also right- away problematic areas in the LDC.
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With the county going through the Ear Based Amendments the committee
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feels some of their concerns could be easily changed or modified.
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Staff will be looking for examples of appropriate MXD areas that have some
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vertical integration and some separation.
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The committee feels the use of photographs will be a good visual aide when
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presenting these ideas.
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Mr. Trias stated for the record,(approximately 1.11 minutes into the recording)
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“that the way we implement the Form Based Code is through the new zoning
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designations that go with the Future Land Use of Neighborhood and District”.
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Mr. Trias feels this is an easy and simple little thing that could be applied in
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many places.
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Mr. Houston made a distinction that you would not have to follow the two new
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zoning districts if you have MXD property.
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The committee will be discussing, what criteria they need to follow to apply to
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the new neighborhood and district land use.
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The committee would like to recommend that MXD land use would
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automatically be eligible for the overlay district.
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The committee recommends a workshop with the BOCC, giving them
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approximately three pages of recommendations and photos (example of
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projects).
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A tentative schedule of completion was set for May 22, 2009. This being the
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date the committee would like to have scheduled as a workshop with the
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BOCC.
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The committee was directed to give any information they have compiled to
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Ms. Wood.
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The Committee is scheduled to meet on the second and fourth Friday of each
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Month at 10:00 a.m. in Growth Management Conference Room One. The
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committee hopes to meet their goals within ninety days.
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Mr. Houston motioned that committee work off the Smart Growth Draft
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Recommendations concentrating on items 1-7 plus 12 and 13.
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Ms. Dreyer seconded.
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Motion approved unanimously.
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The recommendations will be e-mailed to the committee in word format.
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Corrections are to be sent to Ms. Wood in strike out form.
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The meeting adjourned at 4: 53 p.m.
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