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CITIZENS’ BUDGET COMMITTEE
Meeting Date: October 16, 2009
Conference Room 3
Meeting convened at 7:37 a.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Carl Hensley, Chair
Dana McSweeney
Craig Mundt
Nathaniel “Nate” Wells
Patricia “Pat” Ferrick
John Culverhouse
Richard Pancoast
Jay L. McBee
MEMBERS ABSENT: Bobby Rodriguez
Thomas Hickey
Bill Casey
Randy Ezell
Dan Kurek
Edith Hepburn
Edward Lounds
OTHERS PRESENT: Faye Outlaw Lee Ann Lowery
Marie Gouin Jennifer Hill
Carl Holeva Ron Knaggs
John Ferrick Laurie Waldie
Al Rivitt Mark Godwin
Leo Cordeiro Roger Shinn
Debbie Brisson Bill Hoeffner
Karen Smith Diana Lewis
Audrey Jackson Jim David
Mark Satterlee Don West
Robert O’Sullivan Toby Long
Erick Gill Katherine Hensley
Anita Neal Paul Hiott
Beth Ryder Shai Frances
Garry Wilson Jeff Furst
CALL TO ORDER
Mr. Hensley called the meeting to order at 7:37 a.m.
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Chief Deputy Garry Wilson introduced Ron Knaggs. Mr. Knaggs will be the Sheriff’s
recommendation for a seat on the Committee. He has financial background, has done
volunteer work in the County and has lived here quite a while.
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UPDATE ON SEPTEMBER 29 & OCTOBER 2 BUDGET WORKSHOPS
Ms. Outlaw asked if the Committee wanted the entire presentation or a summation. Mr.
Hensley answered a summation. She started with a recap on slide 2 (see attached
PowerPoint presentation). The intent of the workshop was to look ahead at 2010-2011.
The Board reviewed the revenue sources and made projections.
The workshop started with a presentation from Mr. Furst. He informed the Board that he
was projecting an 11.5% decrease in property values for 2010-2011 and a 5% decrease
for 2011-2012.
Ms. Gouin began her portion of the presentation on slide 6.
Mr. Mundt asked about County Imposed Revenues that are listed on slide 6. He asked if
Mr. Furst is projecting a decrease in property values, why there is an increase in the
projection for FY 10-11. An uptick in the economy and the fact that the Tourist Tax
exceeded the projection for last year is the reason. Some revenue is starting to show an
upward trend.
Ms. Outlaw explained that they began the workshop with an assumed 10% property value
decrease. Since Mr. Furst announced the 11.5% decrease, they went back and revised
the numbers in the balance of the presentation. She reviewed each slide of the Fund
Balance section.
The Board wanted assurances that the savings that were identified in the budget reviews
were left on account, unallocated.
Ms. Gouin took over the presentation with the Threshold Issues.
Mr. Mundt asked about the gap in Water & Sewer District funds. Ms. Waldie explained
that it is because of capital projects that are on hold. It is part of the carry forward
reserves.
Mr. Hensley asked if it is known when the subsidies for Tradition Field will end. Ms. Gouin
answered that the Board will discuss why the subsidy is increasing during the workshop.
Ms. Gouin said the Board is considering increasing the millage for Mosquito Control and
reducing the millage in Erosion. Mr. Mundt pointed out that at the current rate the reserves
in Mosquito Control would be gone in two years.
Erosion uses their reserves to match grants for erosion projects.
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Ms. Ryder explained how the grants for Transit are used for operations.
Mr. Mundt asked what percentage of routes would have to be cut to meet the gap. Ms.
Ryder said one of the five routes.
Ms. Gouin explained how the lighting districts were set up in the 60s and the proposed
changes.
Mr. Mundt asked if there was a freeze on Cost of Living (COLA) raises for employees. She
answered there was. Mr. Mundt asked about longevity. Ms. Gouin answered that it was
not part of the freeze. She does not know what Ms. Outlaw has in mind. Ms. Lowery said
it is a service award. It is a one-time payment. Not a pay increase. It has been approved
for this year but it will be back on the table for FY 10-11.
Mr. Mundt asked if the Clerk of Court gets most of his funding from fees. Ms. Gouin said
the Clerk does finances and payroll for the Board. That cost is $1,894,407.
Mr. Mundt asked about the reduction in CRA funding. The difference is a savings because
it was already budgeted at a higher amount.
Ms. Lowery said the message is that we have been able to close the gap the last couple
years because of the fund balance. That one-time money is dwindling. We are looking at
2011-2012 being more difficult because the one-time money will not be there. There is a
$6-8 million gap for 2010-2011. But they are more concerned about 2011-2012.
Mr. Hensley said it has been projected that property values will level out and go back up.
Ms. Lowery said we had used as much as $35 million to close the gap. That is down to $6
million. They will not rise as fast as we need them to.
Mr. Hensley said the Board will have to decide if they want to cut services or raise the
millage, unless someone has a good idea.
Mr. Pancoast thinks the sooner decisions are made, the better. Ms. Lowery said that is
why the Strategic Planning sessions were scheduled earlier than normal.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
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Mr. Mundt made a motion to accept the September 18 minutes. Mr. Pancoast seconded
the motion and it passed unanimously.
OTHER ISSUES
Ms. Ferrick asked about an article in the paper reporting a $7 billion shortfall in the Florida
Department of Transportation’s five-year work program. How will that affect our County?
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Mr. West said we have not seen any change at this point.
At the next meeting, the Committee will approve their 2010 meeting dates and get an
update on the Strategic Planning sessions. He urged the members to attend if possible. A
new Chair will be elected in January. The November and December meetings will be
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combined on November 20.
ADJOURNMENT
Mr. Hensley adjourned the meeting at 8:28 a.m.
Respectfully submitted by: Brenda Marlin
The next CBC regular meeting will be held on Friday, November 20, 2009, at 7:30
a.m., in Conference Room #3, at the St. Lucie County Roger Poitras Administration
Annex.