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St. Lucie County
Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes
REGULAR MEETING
September 20, 2001
rd
Commission Chambers, 3 Floor, Roger Poitras Annex
7:00 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Mr. Hearn, Mr. Jones, Mr. Grande, Mr. Lounds, Mr. McCurdy, Mr. Matthes Chairman.
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Mr. Trias (excused), Mr. Merritt (excused), Mr. Akins (excused)
OTHERS PRESENT:
Mr. Dennis Murphy, Interim Community Development Director; Mr. David Kelly, Planning Manager;
Mr. Hank Flores, Planner III; Ms. Heather Young, Asst. Co. Attorney; Ms. Dawn Wismer, Administrative
Secretary.
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CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Matthes called to order the meeting of the St. Lucie County Planning and Zoning Commission
meeting at 7:00 p.m.
Chairman Matthes requested a moment of silence in honor of and out of respect for all our fellow
countrymen who were severely and unjustly impacted by the events of September 11, 2001.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Chairman Matthes confirmed that Mr. Merritt and Mr. Trias would not be attending the meeting and have
excused absences. Ms. Wismer advised that Mr. Akins did call earlier in the day to advise he would not
be able to attend after all and his absence was excused too.
For those of you who have not been here before, The Planning and Zoning Commission is an agency that
makes recommendations to the Board of County Commissioners. The Staff will present a brief summary
of the project and then make their recommendation. After which time, the Petitioner will be asked to
come forward and state his/her case for the requested petition. At any time the Commission may stop and
ask questions of the Petitioner or Staff. After that process is completed the Chairman will open the public
hearing for anyone who wishes to speak for or against the petition. The purpose behind this hearing is to
get input from the general public. If anyone has something to say, please feel free to come forward and
state it. After everyone has gotten a chance to speak the Chairman will then close the public hearing. The
Commission will deliberate and then make a decision regarding their recommendation, one way or the
other. The decision that is made is typically read from a scripted set of statements that are given to the
Commission. It may sound rehearsed but it really is not. There is one motion for and one motion against
in the package, so that the Commission can make a motion either one way or the other so it is very clear
in the records.
Once again, I want to remind you that the Planning and Zoning Commission only acts in an advisory
capacity for the Board of County Commissioners. If you are not happy with the outcome of this hearing
you will have the opportunity to speak at the public hearing in front of the Board of County
Commissioners.
No other announcements or comments.
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AGENDA ITEM 1: August 16, 2001 MINUTES
Mr. Grande made a motion for approval. Motion seconded by Mr. McCurdy.
Upon a roll call vote, the motion passed with a vote of 5-1 with Mr. Lounds voting against.
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AGENDA ITEM 2: WILFREDO AND OLGA GONZALEZ, FILE NO. RZ-01-019
Staff Planner, Hank Flores advised that neither the Petitioner nor any representative of the Petitioner
were present at 7:05 p.m. and requested to move the petition to the end of the agenda.
Chairman Matthes made an announcement that petitioners should be present when the petition is being
heard. He further stated that the item would be moved to the end of agenda. The Commission
unanimously agreed. Agenda Item # 3,4 & 5 were heard next. Agenda Item # 2 was heard last,
beginning at 7:35 p.m. The minutes of that hearing are presented here for consistency with the published
agenda.
Staff Planner, Hank Flores stated Agenda Item # 2 was the petition of Wilfredo and Olga Gonzalez for a
Change in Zoning from the RS-2 (Residential, Single-Family 2 du/acre) Zoning District to the AG-1
(Agricultural 1 du/acre) Zoning District for 4.18 acres of property located on the west side of South
Jenkins Road approximately 700 feet north of Tedder Road. The surrounding zoning is RS-2 to the
northwest, south and west and AR-1, RM-11 and RM-5 to the east and AG-1 to the north. The general
existing use surrounding the property is residential with some agricultural. Mr. and Mrs. Gonzalez have
requested the Change in Zoning in order to establish a farm and other agricultural uses on the property.
The property is located within the Urban Service Boundary and the Comprehensive Plan discourages
agricultural zoning in this area, however, several other properties in the area have had a Change in Zoning
approved in recent years to the AG-
overall existing development pattern of the area. However, they are not entirely consistent with the
Comprehensive Plan designations for the future of the area.
Staff believes that the AR-1 (Agricultural, Residential 1 du/acre) Zoning District is a more compatible
designation for the subject property. Both AG-1 and AR-1 Zoning Districts allow for a broad range of
agricultural uses. AR-1 allows those uses only as an accessory to a single-family home. The applicant
had stated to Staff previously that he does intend to live on the property. Staff feels that a small farm or
ranch in the midst of a residential area may not be compatible with the area especially if left unattended.
Staff reviewed the petition and determined it conforms to the Standards and Review as set forth in the St.
Lucie County Land Development Code and is not directly in conflict with the Comprehensive Plan. Staff
recommended that the petition be forwarded to the Board of County Commissioners with a
recommendation for denial of the AG-1 Zoning District and instead recommend that the property be
rezoned to the AR-1 Zoning District.
Chairman Matthes asked Mr. Flores if this has been discussed and explained in detail with the petitioner.
Chairman Matthes questioned if it was ever discussed with the petitioner prior to tonight. Mr. Kelly
advised that the petitioner was given a copy of the staff report, however they did not seem to be aware of
it prior to this evening. Mr. Kelly continued that he did discuss it thoroughly with the petitioner and he is
in complete agreement.
Mr. Grande complemented the staff on the changed recommendation and stated he felt this was an
excellent application.
Mr. Juan Pineda, brother-in-law of Mr. Gonzalez advised that he would be speaking on behalf of the
petitioner as a translator. He advised that the petitioner fully agrees with the Staff recommendation to
change the zoning to AR-1 instead of AG-1.
Mr. McCurdy questioned what the property would be used for if the rezoning were granted. Mr. Pineda
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advised that he would like to build a small house with possibly some goats. Mr. Lounds asked the
petitioner again if he fully understood that the zoning would not be changed to AG-1 and would instead
be AR-1. Mr. Pineda advised that he does understand that if approved, it will be rezoned to the AR-1
Zoning District and fully agrees with it. Mr. McCurdy asked Mr. Kelly if goats would be a permitted use.
Mr. Kelly advised that goats or any other animals under the AR-1 Zoning are an accessory use. He
continued that they are allowed there only if the single-family home is there first and that is why the
distinction between the AG-1 and the AR-1 Zoning Districts. Staff believes that since this is a residential
area a home should be there therefore making the animal farm attended.
Chairman Matthes opened the Public Hearing.
A neighbor, Para stated that his wife Ms. Tivani is the owner of the property near Mr. Gonzalez and stated
ook nice. He advised that the change in zoning
would make the property much more presentable.
Chairman Matthes closed the Public Hearing.
Mr. Lounds stated that after considering the testimony presented during the Public Hearing,
including staff comments, and the Standards of Review as set forth in Section 11.06.03, St. Lucie
County Land Development Code, I hereby move that the Planning and Zoning Commission
recommend that the St. Lucie County Board of County Commissioners deny the application of
Wilfredo and Olga Gonzalez, for a Change in Zoning from the RS-2 (Residential, Single-Family 2
du/acre) Zoning District to the AG-1 (Agricultural 1 du/acre) Zoning District and grant approval
for a Change in Zoning from the RS-2 (Residential, Single-Family 2 du/acre) Zoning District to
the AR-1 (Agricultural, Residential 1 du/acre) Zoning District because it is more consistent with
the land use and it puts a dwelling on the property for stewardship of the animals.
Motion seconded by Mr. Grande.
Upon a roll call vote the motion passed unanimously (with a vote of 6-0) and forwarded to the
Board of County Commissioners with a recommendation for approval.
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AGENDA ITEM 3: FRANK AND JETTI FERRER, FILE NO. RZ-01-020
Staff Planner, Hank Flores advised that Agenda Item #3 was the petition of Frank and Jetti Ferrer for a
Change in Zoning from the RS-2 (Residential, Single-Family 2 du/acre) Zoning District to the AR-1
(Agricultural, Residential 1 du/acre) Zoning District for their 8.36 acres of property located at the
northeast corner of the intersection of Interstate 95 and Graham Road. Mr. Flores stated the zoning to the
north, east and west were RS-2 also with AG-1 zoning to the south and northeast. The general use
surrounding the property is residential with some agricultural. The petitioner requested the change in
zoning in order to establish a single-family home with agricultural uses as an accessory.
Staff reviewed the petition and determined it conforms to the Standards and Review as set forth in the St.
Lucie County Land Development Code and is not in conflict with the Comprehensive Plan. Staff
recommended that the petition be forwarded to the Board of County Commissioners with a
recommendation for approval.
The petitioner, Mr. Frank Ferrer stated that he had the property for quite some time and with I-95,
Graham Road overpass and the canal surrounding the property, as well as a narrow access road has made
selling the property difficult. He had the property listed through a broker and had no calls. He also stated
that several people who looked at the property suggested it would be good for only one (1) home with
several horses. That would not be possible under the current zoning. He continued that building two (2)
homes per acre on the property, in his opinion, would not be possible.
Mr. Ferrer then stated that there is a hill on the south side of the property that has a steep incline due to
the Graham Road overpass and also accumulates heavy water. He also advised that he was not
comfortable cutting down trees on this property because he wants the green belt. He further stated that
the main concern has been the noise from the traffic on Interstate 95 and the lack of access to the property
from the road. Mr. Ferrer advised that since the access road is currently only 30-feet wide, a home could
not be built (per the Zoning Department) unless the road was widened to 60-feet.
Chairman Matthes questioned if a second dwelling unit could be constructed under the new zoning? Mr.
Flores advised that guest houses subject to the requirements of section 7.10.04 are allowed in the AR-1
Zoning District, but not a separate dwelling unit owned by a different owner. Chairman Matthes
confirmed that with the current road frontage a subdivision would not possible. Mr. Kelly confirmed that.
Chairman Matthes opened the Public Hearing.
Seeing no one, Chairman Matthes closed the Public Hearing.
Mr. Lounds asked if one (1) dwelling could be put on the property with the right-of-way only being 30-
feet? Mr. Kelly confirmed that was allowed.
Mr. Jones stated that after considering the testimony presented during the Public Hearing,
including staff comments, and the Standards of Review as set forth in Section 11.06.03, St. Lucie
County Land Development Code, I hereby move that the Planning and Zoning Commission
recommend that the St. Lucie County Board of County Commissioners grant approval to the
application of Frank and Jetti Ferrer, for a Change in Zoning from the RS-2 (Residential, Single-
Family 2 du/acre) Zoning District to the AR-1 (Agricultural, Residential 1 du/acre) Zoning
District because it is a more appropriate zoning for the property.
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Motion seconded by Mr. Hearn.
Upon a roll call vote the motion passed unanimously (with a vote of 6-0) and forwarded to the
Board of County Commissioners with a recommendation for approval.
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AGENDA ITEM 4: GASTON POULIN, FILE NO. RZ-01-021
Staff Planner, Hank Flores stated that Agenda Item #4 is the petition of Gaston Poulin for a Change in
Zoning from the RM-5 (Residential, Multiple-Family 5 du/acre) Zoning District to the AR-1
(Agricultural, Residential 1 du/acre) Zoning District for 28.48 acres of property located at 7001 SE
Silver Oak Drive. Surrounding zoning is AR-1 to the east and southwest and RM-5 south and west with I
(Institutional) to the north. The general existing uses surrounding the property agricultural and
residential. There are several conforming and non-conforming horse farms in the area as well. The
applicant requested the change in zoning in order to develop a single-family home with a horse stable as a
conditional use. The subject property is in an area of non-conforming horse ranches. If the requested
change in zoning is approved, Mr. Poulin would also seek a Conditional Use Permit to allow a horse
stable in the AR-1 Zoning District.
Staff reviewed the petition and determined it conforms to the Standards and Review as set forth in the St.
Lucie County Land Development Code and is not in conflict with the Comprehensive Plan. Staff
recommended that the petition be forwarded to the Board of County Commissioners with a
recommendation for approval.
Mr. Charles Ray, of the firm Messer & Ray, stated he was the attorney for Mr. Poulin. He advised that
the property that Mr. Poulin owns is just south of the Savannas Preserve State Park and gave a copy of a
newspaper article regarding the Preserve and an aerial photograph to the Commission for review. He
and they use the
that have horse stables as well and those are the reasons Mr. Poulin would like a Change in Zoning.
Mr. McCurdy asked Mr. Po
present time. Mr. Ray stated there are approximately 27 horses and two stables already existing on the
property. Mr. McCurdy stated that this is not a permitted use in the current zoning. Chairman Matthes
reconfirmed that was the reason for the request for a Change in Zoning. Mr. Ray confirmed that was
correct.
Chairman Matthes opened the Public Hearing.
Mr. James R. Johnson stated that he and his partner own horses and have been boarding them on Mr.
stables there are very attractive and good for the neighborhood. He further stated that, in his opinion, Mr.
Poulin has consistently maintained his property to the highest level and completely agrees with the
change in zoning request.
Mr. James Anderson advised that
property. He stated that the agricultural zoning would be more in tune with the nature of the area that Mr.
ic utilities. He continued that
under the current zoning, anyone who would build a home would have to raise it about three (3) to four
(4) feet because during the rainy season the water table rises to approximately six (6) inches from the
surface of the ground. He advised that there are several other stables in the area and he feels this would
be a good change for the area.
Chairman Matthes closed the Public Hearing.
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Mr. Lounds stated that after considering the testimony presented during the Public Hearing,
including staff comments, and the Standards of Review as set forth in Section 11.06.03, St. Lucie
County Land Development Code, I hereby move that the Planning and Zoning Commission
recommend that the St. Lucie County Board of County Commissioners grant approval to the
application of Gaston Poulin, for a Change in Zoning from the RM-5 (Residential, Multiple-Family
5 du/acre) Zoning District to the AR-1 (Agricultural, Residential 1 du/acre) Zoning District
because it is consistent with what Mr. Poulin wants to do and what it had been used for.
Motion seconded by Mr. Grande.
Upon a roll call vote the motion passed unanimously (with a vote of 6-0) and forwarded to the
Board of County Commissioners with a recommendation for approval.
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AGENDA ITEM 5: GASTON POULIN, FILE NO. CU-01-008
Staff Planner, Hank Flores advised that Agenda Item #5 was the petition of Gaston Poulin for a
Conditional Use Permit to allow a horse stable in the AR-1 (Agricultural, Residential 1 du/acre) Zoning
District. This petition was in conjunction with Agenda Item #4. Horse stables are allowed as a
Conditional Use in the AR-1 Zoning District subject to the approval of the Board of County
Commissioners.
Staff reviewed the petition and determined it conforms to the Standards and Review as set forth in the St.
Lucie County Land Development Code and is not in conflict with the Comprehensive Plan. Staff
recommended that the petition be forwarded to the Board of County Commissioners with a
recommendation for approval.
Chairman Matthes opened the Public Hearing.
like to remain there. He continued that he likes the area and how it gives them access to riding in the
Savannas Preserve. Mr. Carino also advised that he believe there is a commercial riding facility with
respectfully requested that they forward a recommendation for approval to the Board of County
Commissioners for this petition.
approximately two and a half (2 ½) years and there are not many good boarding stables or areas to ride
for residents of Port St. Lucie in the area. She stated that the area is nice and supports the agriculture and
wildlife and is in a convenient location being so close to the Savannas. She further stated that she felt to
deny this petition would diminish the area and would be a tremendous loss.
Chairman Matthes closed the Public Hearing.
Mr. Hearn stated that after considering the testimony presented during the Public Hearing,
including staff comments, and the Standards of Review as set forth in Section 11.07.03, St. Lucie
County Land Development Code, I hereby move that the Planning and Zoning Commission
recommend that the St. Lucie County Board of County Commissioners grant approval to the
application of Gaston Poulin for a Conditional Use Permit to allow a horse stable in the AR-1
(Agricultural, Residential 1 du/acre) Zoning District because it is a good use for the area adjacent
to the Savannas.
Motion seconded by Mr. Grande.
Upon a roll call vote the motion passed unanimously (with a vote of 6-0) and forwarded to the
Board of County Commissioners with a recommendation for approval.
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Prior to adjournment, the Commission had several questions of Staff.
operty was. Mr.
Murphy explained the old Indian River County road on the small corner of a southwest property is an
access avenue.
Mr. Murphy explained that road is a 15-foot wide public right-of-way with the exception of the drainage
easement and stops at Canal No. 36. He continued that as far as the legal descriptions show, Bennett
continues after it. Mr. McCurdy
asked if the road frontage and access to the property was about 30-feet. Mr. Kelly explained that Graham
Road overpass for Interstate 95 allows access along the side of the overpass. Mr. McCurdy stated that he
felt this size access restricts the potential for development of those parcels since 60-feet is required and
could not be obtained due to the overpass. Mr. Kelly advised that there is also a retention pond at the
entrance of the property, which restricts access as well.
No further business.
Mr. Lounds, Mr. McCurdy and Mr. Jones each stated they would be out of town on October 18, 2001 and
Chairman Matthes stated he had a conflict with a petition. Mr. Lounds questioned the policy on absences
and asked if an attendance report could be produced. Mr. Kelly advised he was concerned over what
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tend would be
considered unexcused. Chairman Matthes questioned what procedure is followed regarding this issue
with the Board of County Commissioners. Mr. Kelly advised he believed it was the same as our policy.
Mr. Lounds voiced his concern regarding the consideration of members who do not attend on a regular
basis.
Due to a potential lack of quorum, the meeting was changed to October 25, 2001. The Commission
unanimously agreed.
Thursday October 25, 2001
Next scheduled meeting will be changed from Thursday October 18 to .
ADJOURNMENT
Motion to adjourn made by Mr. Lounds and seconded by Mr. McCurdy. Meeting was adjourned at 8:00
p.m.
Respectfully submitted: Approved by:
_____________________________ _______________________________
Dawn Wismer, Secretary Steffan Matthes, Chairman
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