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St. Lucie County
Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes
REGULAR MEETING
August 15, 2002
Commission Chambers, 3rd Floor, Roger Poitras Annex
7:00 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Mr. Grande, Mr. Lounds, Mr. Akins, Mr. Merritt, Mr. Hearn, Mr. Trias, Mr. McCurdy, Mr.
Matthes.
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Mr. Jones (Absent - With Notice)
OTHERS PRESENT:
Mr. David Kelly, Planning Manager; Mr. Hank Flores, Planner III; Ms. Cyndi Snay, Planner III;
Ms. Heather Young, Asst. Co. Attorney; Ms. Dawn Gilmore, Administrative Secretary.
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CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Matthes called to order the meeting of the St. Lucie County Planning and Zoning
Commission at 7:00 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Mr. Hearn stated that he has heard that there was quite a bit of discussion in the community with
regards to Rose Car Wash. He continued that he has answered some questions from the public
about this issue.
Chairman Matthes stated that his employer was involved with the project in Agenda Item # 2 and
would recuse himself from that item.
Chairman Matthes advised that Agenda Item # 4, Timothy and Debra Rose Car Wash has been
requested to be continued to the September 19, 2002 Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting
at 7:00 P.M or as soon thereafter as possible. He explained that if there were any public present
tonight that wished to speak they could do so when they open the public hearing on that item or
they could just return in September for full deliberations. He also stated that the petitioner made
this request at the last minute and that Staff did their best to notify everyone. Mr. Kelly stated
that we had notified the church of the continuance and asked them to try to notify everyone
possible. He also stated that both hearings on the issue are public hearings and that everyone
would be allowed to speak with regards to the petition.
meeting. For those of you who have not been here before, The Planning and Zoning Commission
is an agency that makes recommendations to the Board of County Commissioners. The Staff will
present a brief summary of the project and then make their recommendation. After which time,
the Petitioner will be asked to come forward and state his/her case for the requested petition. At
any time the Commission may stop and ask questions of the Petitioner or Staff. After that process
is completed the Chairman will open the public hearing for anyone who wishes to speak for or
against the petition. The purpose behind this hearing is to get input from the general public. If
anyone has something to say, please feel free to come forward and state it. After everyone has
gotten a chance to speak the Chairman will then close the public hearing. The Commission will
deliberate and then make a decision regarding their recommendation, one way or the other. The
decision that is made is typically read from a scripted set of statements that are given to the
Commission. It may sound rehearsed but it really is not. There is one motion for and one motion
against in the package, so that the Commission can make a motion either one way or the other so
it is very clear in the records.
Once again, I want to remind you that the Planning and Zoning Commission only acts in an
advisory capacity for the Board of County Commissioners. If you are not happy with the outcome
of this hearing you will have the opportunity to speak at the public hearing in front of the Board
of County Commissioners.
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Mr. Kelly stated that Agenda Item # 8, Ordinance 02-020 would also be continued tonight to the
August 29, 2002 Special Meeting at 7:00 P.M. or as soon thereafter as possible.
No other announcements or comments.
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AGENDA ITEM 1: JUNE 20, 2002 MEETING MINUTES:
ordinance.
Mr. Trias asked that his name be added as being present on the first page.
Chairman Matthes questioned if the word POD at the end of page 6 is correct. Mr. Kelly stated
he did believe it does read correctly but should not be capitalized and would be corrected for the
record.
Mr. Grande moved for approval as amended. Motion seconded by Mr. Lounds.
Upon a roll call vote, the motion passed unanimously (with a vote of 8-0).
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AGENDA ITEM 2: FILE NO. RZ-02-013 GLASSMAN HOLDINGS, INC.:
Mr. Hank Flores, presenting Staff comments, stated that Agenda Item # 2 was the application of
Glassman Holdings, Inc.
for a Change in Zoning from the AG-1 (Agricultural 1 du/acre)
Zoning District to the CG (Commercial, General) Zoning District for 25.99 acres of property
located on the Northwest corner of the intersection of Indrio Road and Emerson Road. He
continued that the petitioner is proposing to develop the property for commercial uses. He also
stated that the surrounding zoning was RS-2 (Residential, Single-Family - 2 du/acre) to the south
and west. He continued that there was AG-1 (Agricultural 1du/care) Zoning to the north, south,
east, and west, IX (Industrial, Extraction) to the east and I (Institutional) Zoning to the east and
north.
Staff has reviewed this petition and determined that it conforms to the standards of review as set
forth in the Land Development Code and is not in conflict with the Comprehensive Plan. Staff is
recommending that you forward this petition to the Board of County Commissioners with a
recommendation of approval.
Mr. Lindsay Walter stated that he was from West Palm Beach and was representing Glassman
Holdings Inc. He continued that this application was for a straight rezoning and that they had no
development plans at this time, but are just trying to bring the property into conformance with the
Comprehensive Plan designation of Commercial.
Mr. Lounds questioned if there were any preliminary plans for future use of the property. Mr.
Walter stated that Glassman has preliminarily done some sketches that would include a possible
shopping center with an out-parcel or two. He also stated that there is nothing definite at this
point in time.
Chairman McCurdy opened the Public Hearing.
Seeing no one, Chairman McCurdy closed the Public Hearing.
Mr. Merritt stated after considering the testimony presented during the public hearing,
including Staff comments, and the Standards of Review as set forth in Section 11.06.03, St.
Lucie County Land Development Code, I hereby move that the Planning and Zoning
Commission recommend that the St. Lucie County Board of County Commissioners grant
approval to the application of Glassman Holdings, Inc., for a Change in Zoning from the
AG-1 (Agricultural - 1 du/acre) Zoning District to the CG (Commercial, General) Zoning
District, because it complies with the land use element of the code.
Motion seconded by Mr. Lounds.
Upon a roll call vote the motion passed unanimously (with a vote of 7-0) and forwarded to
the Board of County Commissioners with a recommendation of approval.
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AGENDA ITEM 3: FILE NO. RZ-02-014 - CHURCH OF THE REDEEMER OF ST.
LUCIE COUNTY:
Mr. Hank Flores, presenting Staff comments, stated that Agenda Item # 3 was the application of
Church of the Redeemer of St. Lucie County
for a Change in Zoning from the RS-3
(Residential, Single-Family 3 du/acre) Zoning District to the I (Institutional) Zoning District for
8.47 acres of property located on the Southeast corner of the intersection of Edwards Road and
Selvitz Road. He stated that the purpose of the rezoning is for the possible expansion of church
facilities.
Mr. Flores continued that the proposed zoning district designation I (Institutional) is
consistent with the zoning district designation for
to the east of the subject property. He also stated that approval of this petition would create an
18.80-acre parcel under common ownership at the intersection of Edwards and Selvitz Roads. He
advised that a review of the Institutional Zoning District and its permitted and conditional uses
shows the scope of the impact that an Institutional parcel of this size could have on the area. He
continued that the RF (Religious Facilities) Zoning District was created specifically for the
designation of church facilities and the types of uses that would generally be located within a
church establishment. He stated that Staff believes that the RF Zoning District designation is
more appropriate at this location for the additional property.
Staff has reviewed this petition and determined that it generally conforms to the standards of
review as set forth in the Land Development Code and is not in conflict with the Comprehensive
Plan. Staffs recommended they forward this petition to the Board of County Commissioners with
a recommendation of denial for the Institutional Zoning District and instead recommend they
forward a recommendation of approval to the RF (Religious Facilities) Zoning District.
Mr. Grande questioned why the application was filed requesting I (Institutional) Zoning instead
of RF (Religious Facilities). Mr. Flores stated that was how the applicant has filed the application
and was compatible with the existing I (Institutional) Zoning. He continued that once the full
application was reviewed Staff concluded that RF (Religious Facilities) Zoning would be a more
appropriate zoning. Chairman Matthes asked if this was discussed with the applicant. Mr. Flores
stated that he discussed it with Mr. David Sowerby, who is working with the petition and stated
that he believed that they were in agreement. He continued that churches are allowed under both
zoning districts and that the conditional uses allowed under RF (Religious Facilities) are also
allowed under I (Institutional) Zoning. Chairman Matthes questioned if this would have to go
through the site plan review process if approved. Mr. Flores stated that if a proposed site plan is
submitted that meets the 6,000 square foot or greater threshold that would be correct.
Mr. Merritt stated that there are some ancient historical issues on this property and questioned if
they were being protected. Mr. Flores stated that in this point in time they are not reviewing the
development of the property only a change in zoning and therefore would not be impacted right
now. Mr. Hearn stated that he too is concerned about the historical issues of the property and
wants to make sure it is not destroyed.
Mr. Clyde Heffelfinger stated that he resides 1008 Echo Street in Fort Pierce and he is on the
Board of Directors of the Church of the Redeemer. Chairman Matthes questioned if he
the I (Institutional) Zoning. Mr. Heffelfinger stated that he discussed the issue with Mr. David
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aware of anything historical on that lot and would like to know what it is that he is speaking of.
Mr. Merritt stated that there is an ancient Indian burial ground on that location. Mr. Heffelfinger
questioned if they knew where on the property this burial ground was located. Mr. Merritt stated
that he believed it was to the rear of the property and was a significant Indian burial site.
Chairman Matthes stated the Commission, as a whole would probably suggest that he seek
professional guidance in review of that information.
Chairman Matthes opened the Public Hearing.
Seeing no one, Chairman Matthes closed the Public Hearing.
Mr. Grande stated after considering the testimony presented during the public hearing,
including Staff comments, and the Standards of Review as set forth in Section 11.06.03, St.
Lucie County Land Development Code, I hereby move that the Planning and Zoning
Commission recommend that the St. Lucie County Board of County Commissioners deny
the application of Church of the Redeemer of St. Lucie County, for a Change in Zoning
from the RS-3 (Residential, Single-Family - 3 du/acre) Zoning District to the I (Institutional)
Zoning District, because the more appropriate zoning for the property would be the RF
(Religious Facilities) Zoning.
Motion seconded by Mr. Hearn, with discussion.
Mr. Hearn questioned if Mr. Grande would include something in his motion with regards to the
Indian burial ground. Mr. Grande stated that he felt it would more relevant to the approval
motion rather than the denial. Chairman Matthes stated that he did not believe that they could
condition a zoning application. Ms. Young confirmed that was correct. Chairman Matthes stated
that he is sure it has been duly noted in the minutes and their concerns will be expressed to the
Board, but they could not condition a zoning application. Mr. Merritt stated that if the applicant
o change his request. Chairman Matthes
explained that Staff recommended RF (Religious Facilities) Zoning instead of I (Institutional) and
the applicant did agree with the new zoning recommendation.
Upon a roll call vote the motion passed unanimously (with a vote of 8-0) and forwarded to
the Board of County Commissioners with a recommendation of denial.
were meant to be a condition of the rezoning, but just to be sure that it was a comment with the
motion to point it out to the County Commission as they read the motion. Mr. Akins stated that
he too was concerned with how they would be able to signal their intentions to the Board.
Chairman Matthes stated that the minutes of the meetings are read by each of the County
Commissioners and it was made abundantly clear in the record that they had concerns about
motion would be appropriate because it may come across as a condition and they cannot do that.
Staff include those concerns in their memo to the Board. She also stated that the only other
option would be to include that as one of the reasons for approving the RF (Religious Facilities)
designation and they cannot condition a zoning application. Chairman Matthes stated that he was
concerned about doing something that might risk the future of the petition. Mr. Merritt stated that
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he did not raise the issue to put the petition in jeopardy and just wanted to be sure that the
petitioner and Staff were aware of the potential problems in the future. Chairman Matthes asked
Mr. Hearn if adding it to the Staff report to the Board would be sufficient and ease any concerns.
Mr. Hearn stated that would be fine.
Mr. Grande stated after considering the testimony presented during the public hearing,
including Staff comments, and the Standards of Review as set forth in Section 11.06.03, St.
Lucie County Land Development Code, I hereby move that the Planning and Zoning
Commission recommend that the St. Lucie County Board of County Commissioners grant
approval to the application of Church of the Redeemer of St. Lucie County, for a Change in
Zoning from the RS-3 (Residential, Single-Family - 3 du/acre) Zoning District to the RF
(Religious Facilities) Zoning District, because it is consistent with the Comprehensive Plan
and would be good for the community and it causes no potential dangers.
Motion seconded by Mr. Hearn.
Upon a roll call vote the motion passed unanimously (with a vote of 8-0) and forwarded to
the Board of County Commissioners with a recommendation of approval.
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AGENDA ITEM 4: FILE NO. CU-02-001 TIMOTHY & DEBRA ROSE CAR WASH:
Timothy and Debra Rose
Chairman Matthes stated that Agenda Item # 4 was the application of
Car Wash
and that the petitioner has requested a continuation until the September 19, 2002
Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting at 7:00 P.M or as soon thereafter as possible.
Chairman Matthes opened the Public Hearing.
Seeing no one, Chairman Matthes closed the Public Hearing.
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Mr. McCurdy made a motion to continue until the September 19, 2002 Planning and
Zoning Commission Meeting at 7:00 P.M or as soon thereafter as possible.
Motion seconded by Mr. Grande.
Upon a roll call vote the motion passed unanimously (with a vote of 8-0) to be continued to
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the September 19, 2002 Planning and Zoning Meeting at 7:00 P.M or as soon thereafter as
possible.
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AGENDA ITEM 5: FILE NO. CU-02-007 FLORIDA CENTER FOR RECOVERY, INC.:
Hank Flores, presenting Staff comments, stated that Agenda Item # 5 was the Application of
Florida Center for Recovery, Inc.
for a Conditional Use Permit to allow Social Services and
Health Services (specifically an inpatient drug and alcohol abuse rehabilitation center) in the I
(Institutional) Zoning District for 12.17 acres of property located at 3451 West Midway Road.
Mr. Flores stated that Florida Center for Recovery, Inc., has applied for the requested conditional
use in order to provide an establishment for the inpatient alcohol and substance abuse treatment
facility similar to the operation at New Horizons of the Treasure Coast. He also stated that the
operation is proposed to be a 24-hours a day with a maximum of 35 staff and 40 patients in the
short term. He continued that in the long term, the applicant has stated that a maximum of 72
patients were expected to be treated. He explained that Social Services and Health Services are
allowed as conditional uses in this zoning district subject to the approval of the Board of County
Commissioners. He stated that the proposed treatment center is to be housed in the now vacant
Twins Oaks Alzheimer
Staff has reviewed this petition and determined that it conforms to the standards of review as set
forth in the Land Development Code and is not in conflict with the Comprehensive Plan. Staff is
recommending that you forward this petition to the Board of County Commissioners with a
recommendation of approval, subject to the following condition:
The number of patients shall be limited to a maximum of 72.
Mr. Lounds reconfirmed that the original condition was to be a maximum of 40 but as per the
applicants request the condition was amended to 72. Mr. Flores confirmed that was correct. Mr.
Grande stated that he felt the staff memo should read that the general existing use surrounding the
property is residential and some institutional instead of the way it was originally printed. Mr.
Lounds questioned where CASTLE was located on the maps. Mr. Flores stated that it was to the
west of the property.
Chairman Matthes asked if the petitioner was present. Mr. Jack Fitzharris, the petitioner, stated
that he resides in Vero Beach and also maintains a residence in New York. He continued that this
facility would be an upscale substance abuse treatment facility and would not be like New
Horizons. He stated that New Horizons deals mostly with mental illness and their facility would
not include mental health. He also stated that they would cater to the upscale population and
would be similar to that of the Betty Ford Clinic and Hazelton treatment centers.
Mr. Lounds questioned if the patients would be court appointed and if not, where would they
come from. Mr. Fitzharris stated that their patients would be voluntary, self-paid patients and that
they would not accept any court appointed or Medicaid patients. He continued that their fee is
approximately $15,000 a month. Mr. Lounds confirmed that their facility would consist
primarily of voluntary patients only. Mr. Fitzharris stated that their facility markets for only
voluntary patients. Mr. Lounds stated that they have some feedback from concerned citizens
regarding staffing at night and their safety. Mr. Fitzharris stated that the amount of staff at night
would depend on the number of patients being treated. He also stated that this facility would
generally be run the same as their other facility in Long Island. Mr. Lounds questioned how the
facility would be staffed if running at the full capacity of 72 patients. Mr. Fitzharris stated that
there would be therapeutic aides at night as well as a nursing staff who will monitor where the
patients are during the evening. Mr. Lounds stated that the community also has concerns with
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their idea of what is involved with rehabilitative services. Mr. Fitzharris stated that since the
individuals are all voluntary, they are more motivated for treatment and less likely to try to leave
than those who are court appointed and need to be locked down. Mr. Lounds questioned if it
would be a locked down facility with gates and guards. Mr. Fitzharris stated that it would not be
like that and that anyone who is asked to leave the facility for any reason would be transported
back to wherever they came from and not just dropped outside of the front door of the facility.
Mr. Merritt questioned why Mr. Fitzharris chose Fort Pierce to locate his facility when he lives in
Vero Beach. Mr. Fitzharris stated that the property and buildings they needed were already
available in St. Lucie County. He also stated that he only handles marketing of the facility and
already available somewhere else, it would have been located there. Mr. Merritt stated that he is
concerned about St. Lucie County becoming a dumping ground for Martin and Indian River
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center on Midway Road, which is funded by the state and takes in patients from the other
counties and their Section 8 housing is large enough to handle those counties as well. Mr.
Fitzharris stated that Martin, Vero and Okeechobee only have 139 substance abuse beds to
accommodate 4 counties and that was one of the reasons they chose this area. He continued that
l they were dumping on the County and that their
facility would bring employment and taxes into the County. Chairman Matthes questioned if this
is an existing facility. Mr. Fitzharris confirmed that was correct. Mr. Fitzharris stated that he
believed the previous owners only operated for about six months and that the buildings are
relatively new.
Mr. Akins questioned which four counties Mr. Fitzharris was talking about when he referenced
the 139 beds. Mr. Fitzharris stated those were Martin, St. Lucie, Okeechobee and Indian River
County. Mr. Akins questioned his statement that they would not accept any Medicaid, court
appointed or court ordered patients. Mr. Fitzharris stated that was correct. Mr. Akins asked Mr.
Fitzharris if he was aware that St.
abuse and of those 90% about 98% of those are indigent. Mr. Fitzharris stated he was not aware
of those figures. Mr. Akins confirmed that his facility would not benefit the existing substance
abuse problems in St. Lucie County and Mr. Fitzharris confirmed that it would not. Mr. Fitzharris
stated that he believed New Horizons was opening a facility in Vero Beach that will accept the St.
Lucie County indigent. Mr. Akins stated that he was concerned about having a small amount of
space in the existing facilities for the indigent and that there should be more space available to
benefit the problems in St. Lucie County. Mr. Fitzharris stated that he presumed that at least 50%
of their business would come from Florida, but not necessarily from St. Lucie County.
Mr. Lounds stated that he appreciated Mr. Merritt and Mr. Akins comments but that he believes
Chairman Matthes stated that he agreed since a state run facility would not pay taxes and this type
of facility would help the tax base. He continued that there is an existing facility sitting there that
County. Mr. Lounds questioned if the
stated that he had an affidavit from the Long Island Center for Recovery stating who their clients
are and what type of facility they run.
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Mr. McCurdy questioned if the applicant would consider adding a restriction that they would not
accept court appointed or Medicaid patients if he were granted approval. Mr. Fitzharris stated
that he would not have any objection with that type of restriction at all.
Mr. Hearn stated that the issues addressed by Mr. Lounds and Mr. McCurdy were valid but that
he is worried about condemning nearby property owners who are concerned about what is going
into their neighborhood. He also stated that he felt it was very important for people to have
protection in their neighborhoods to ensure their quality of life. He continued that he felt if the
petitioner was willing to accept the conditions suggested by Mr. McCurdy then we would be
more comfortable voting for the project. He stated that he did want to make sure that these
restrictions be part of the motion so that it is legally correct and binding.
Mr. Rodney Schuckhardt stated that he lives at 4588 Shoewater Lane in Naples Florida. He
advised that he is the president of a subsidiary of TIB Bank of the Keys, which originally
are selling the property and hope to be the future lender to the Florida Center for Recovery. He
continued that when they reviewed the applicants contract and proposal they were introduced to
the quality and fiscal soundness of their other existing programs. He also stated that the program
they planned to operate in St. Lucie County was an upscale program designed for primarily self-
pay patients and found the plan to be sound. He stated that they are also bringing substantial
financial resources to the area to get the program off the ground and they are very comfortable
with their plans. He continued that with regards to security, this facility of residential and
administration buildings are equipped with a security system that locks the doors when it is set
and also limits the movement of patients between rooms and various areas of residences.
Chairman Matthes opened the Public Hearing.
Ms. Rhona Perry stated that she resides to the east of the facility at 5080 West Virginia Drive.
She advised that there are not just a few houses in her area; there are fifteen homes there. She
stated that when she first received notification she was very reluctant but after doing some
research and speaking with the applicant she felt better. She continued that she still has some
concerns about the project and likes the idea of adding the conditions to the request. She also
stated that there are many children in that area who like to play in the woods and when the
front of her
that she is aware that this facility is going to be upscale and they would be more likely to leave
out the front door than to sneak out but there could be one bad apple. She continued that they
would like to know that there was going to be some very good security at the facility because
some of the area is not completely fenced in. She also stated that they were also concerned about
the facility turning into a court appointed type facility if they are not able to make it financially as
an upscale self-pay facility. She stated that she was unsure about what exactly falls under the
classification of Social Services in the regulations for conditional uses.
Mr. Flores stated that under Social Services as in the Land Development Code, there is a number
behind (3) behind it that references the Standard Industrial Classification (SIC) Manual. He
continued that under Social Services in the SIC Manual they allow Individual and Family Social
Services, which include Counseling Centers, Family Counseling Services, Temporary Relief
Services and a variety more on the lists. He continued that one of the ones listed is for
Alcoholism Counseling and also for residential care and also for social services that are not
elsewhere classified. He stated that under Health Services it lists Offices and Clinics of Doctors
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of Medicine and Hospitals.
Ms. Perry stated that they are concerned because Welfare does fall under that as well and want to
be sure that there is a condition that they cannot accept those types of patients to protect them.
Chairman Matthes stated that he would believe that to be correct if they can condition the
conditional use permit that way. Ms. Perry stated that she would be comfortable with the facility
if all of the conditions are listed as part of the approval and legally applied. Chairman Matthes
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issues as part of the conditions. She continued that with regard to the nature of the client base she
would not be uncomfortable adding that as part of the motion since the applicant has consented to
it.
Ms. Kelly Carter stated that she owns lots 112 and 119 behind the facility and is concerned about
lot 107. She continued that there are 79 acres between all of those lots and lot 107 is woods,
which used to be entirely landlocked until she put a culvert in. She stated that she is concerned
about what the applicant is planning on doing with lot 107 because it is directly in front of her
front yard. She also stated that the County has contacted her about preserving the areas that she
owns as well as lot 107 because they were just granted the funds to purchase those 79 acres. She
continued that if the County were able to purchase all of that property they would like to turn it
into a preserve with nature walks. She stated that they have even asked her not to clear her lots
because they are very interested in preserving the area within the next three or four months
because it is the largest piece of Florida Pines left in St. Lucie County. She also stated that if a
patient decides to leave the facility they would be hidden within 79 acres of woods and her home
is the first house they would come to. She continued that she has children and her property is
zoned for agricultural use and they have horses, dogs, donkey, and deer and they intend to build
an area for team roping. She stated that she has no problem keeping her 16 acres and living in the
middle of a 79-acre preserve.
Mr. Fitzharris stated that they have no plans to do anything with that property at the moment
except to maybe put in a serenity walk for the patients. He also stated that he did receive a call
from the County today about the property and stated that nothing is going to happen until next
year and he will discuss those options with them at that time. Chairman Matthes questioned if the
existing facility had the capacity to house their maximum of 72 patients. Mr. Fitzharris
confirmed that was correct. Ms. Carter stated that she was concerned about their patients being
able to walk free and what will happen to the property if the County does buy the 55 acres in the
next 4 months or so.
Mr. Lounds questioned if there was any crossing on the canal separating the division of lot 107
and if the patients would be able to go from the north side to the south side without getting wet.
Mr. Flores stated he did not believe so. Mr. Lounds asked if they would have to go out onto
Christensen Road to get to that property. Ms. Carter stated that there is a brick wall on
Christensen Road and there is a crossing that is part of lot 107 and is located on the County right-
of-way and the County would not let her put a gate with a lock there.
Mr. John Ferrick stated that he visited the location yesterday and was concerned about not having
any fences, especially wh
people he talked to about this project stated their biggest concern is with people wandering off
onto their properties. He continued that the facility should also be concerned about people
wandering into their facility especially when these are well-financed patients with a substance
abuse problem because there are people in the Fort Pierce area who would want to sell them
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some.
Seeing no one else, Chairman Matthes closed the Public Hearing.
Mr. Lounds stated that he did not have a problem with this project because he felt it would bring
better money and facilities than were there in the past instead of having a vacant building still
sitting there. He also stated that he is pleased that it is proposed to be a high-end facility but does
feel that there should be conditions regarding fencing and the types of patients they will accept.
Ms. Young stated that she believed that applicant has stated that their facility would be self-pay
or insurance paid patients only and not Medicaid or court appointed.
Mr. Akins stated that he did not feel that the applicant could state definitely that they would not
accept court appointed patients because there are high-end individuals (G
daughter) who are court appointed and could afford to self-pay the applicants fees. He continued
there are high-end individuals who could be court ordered but still in a financial position to pay.
He also stated that he felt if the Commission wanted to add a condition on this they could do so
petitioner would be able to guarantee not taking court ordered high-end individuals. He
continued that presuming that someone who is court ordered needs to be in a facility that is highly
Mr. Lounds stated that he does agree with what Mr. Akins is saying and would not want to
restrict the owners to that level. He continued that he believes they all understand that they really
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continued that the assumption that because there is an existing failed Al
facility really needs to be in the County. He advised that he feels what was presented to them was
conditions to protect the surrounding residents. He stated that he would not be able to vote for
this conditional use permit no matter what conditions are added to it.
Mr. Merritt stated that no matter how you say it, it is still a substance abuse center. He also stated
that the woman who owned property next to New Horizons ended up selling her property to them
because of the harassment from the patients in their facility. He continued that Midway Road is
going to be the gateway to St. Lucie County and he cannot vote in favor of putting this type of
facility on Midway Road. He also stated that he d
this project.
Mr. Hearn stated that he understood the concerns of Mr. Grande and Mr. Merritt and would like
to see some additional time spent by Staff and the petitioner to come up with some more detailed
conditions and bringing it back before them at that time. He continued that he felt they needed
the additional information and condition to make a truly informed position on the issue. He also
stated that upscale facilities in St. Lucie County generally are good for the County and would not
want to condemn the facility if it would fit in with the neighborhood. He advised that he
personally felt the property needed to be securely fenced and landscaped so that the surrounding
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property owners are protected. He also stated that if they decide to recommend approval he
would like to see this conditional use not be able to be transferred to another owner at a later date
without having to come back before the Planning and Zoning Commission.
lications that
they have approved in the past without any types of drawings or ideas. He continued that the
applicant does have the money behind them and that if you have 72 beds at $15,000 each it would
mean about $1,000,080 in that facility that would be turned over many times. He also stated that
he felt the Staff that would be at this institute would bring money to St. Lucie County and would
offer some prestige to the medical professions in the County as well. He advised that the
concerns regarding anyone being able to walk away or walk into the facility are genuine and that
the fencing issue should handle that. He stated that other than that, he has no problem with it and
feels it would be good for the community and good for the County.
Mr. Akins stated that he would not be able to support this petition for vastly different reasons and
as he stated previously St. Lucie County has a finite tolerance for these types of facilities. He
continued that this type of facility does not benefit the existing problems in St. Lucie County,
except for tax revenue. He advised that if it does not benefit the people who are already in St.
Lucie County who need this type of treatment and cause the problems we have been facing for
t it.
Mr. Merritt stated that his family has a long history in White City and they have a considerable
real estate investment in that area and would ask each member to consider if they would want this
type of facility next to their home.
Mr. Hearn stated that he personally would not mind having this type of facility next to his house
if it was done right. He continued that is why he would like to see this go back to Staff and the
petitioner for some further review and presentation. He advised that he would not be able to
support it based on what they were presented tonight but does think that further review may
change that.
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Mr. Hearn made a motion to continue to the September 19, 2002 Planning and Zoning
Commission Meeting at 7:00 P.M or as soon thereafter as possible.
Motion seconded by Mr. Lounds.
Upon a roll call vote the motion passed with a vote of 5-3 (with Mr. Grande, Mr. Akins and
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Mr. Merritt voting against) to continue to the September 19, 2002 Planning and Zoning
Commission Meeting at 7:00 P.M or as soon thereafter as possible.
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AGENDA ITEM 6: FILE NO. RZ-02-015 WYNNE RANCH:
Ms. Cyndi Snay, presenting Staff comments stated thatAgenda Items # 6 and # 7 were the
Wynne Ranch
applications of for a rezoning of 9.9 acres of land from AG-5 to U (Utilities) and
a conditional use permit to operate an air curtain incinerator on the 9.9 acre parcel.
She continued that the subject property is located on the north side of Orange Avenue
approximately 3/4 mile west of Minute Maid Road and north one mile from the entrance to the
Wynne Ranch property and is a portion of a 671 acre parcel of land. She also stated that the
applicant has indicated a desire to operate an air curtain incinerator on the property for the
purpose of disposal of yard waste material from various properties owned by the Wynne
Corporation.
Ms. Snay stated that based upon the St. Lucie County Land Use Compatibility Matrix the Utilities
Zoning is considered an appropriate zoning district within the AG-5 (Agricultural 5) Land Use
designation. She explained that the existing area is agricultural in nature. She also stated that
additional Wynne Ranch property is located to the north, south and west of the subject property
and that there were citrus groves located to the east of the subject property.
Ms. Snay advised that the proposed use is considered to be consistent with existing and proposed
future land use designations in the area. She continued that the surrounding properties are being
used as either citrus groves or cattle ranches and that the permitted uses in the Utilities zoning
district are not expected to unduly impact the surrounding area or areas. She also stated that there
were no residential structures adjacent to the subject property. She advised that the rezoning of
this property was not expected to create demands on any public facilities in this area and that
public utilities have not been installed this far west within the county. She also stated that St.
oad construction on the shoulders along
Orange Avenue, thereby, significantly reducing the roadway deficiencies within this area.
Ms. Snay stated that the reclassification of this property to a limited use-zoning district such as
Utilities would not result in the introduction of incompatible land uses or activities with the
surrounding low-density agricultural activities. She also stated that the proposed amendment was
not in conflict with the public interest and was in harmony with the purpose and intent of the
Land Development Code.
Staff has reviewed both petitions and recommend the rezoning be forwarded to the Board of
County Commissioners with a recommendation of approval.
She also stated that with regards to the Conditional Use Permit staff has reviewed the petition and
recommends that the petition be forwarded to the Board of County Commissioners with a
recommendation of approval subject to the 9 limiting conditions found on page 5 of the staff
report and would like the following condition to be included in the recommendation:
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The use of the air curtain incinerator will only be permitted for use on this site for a
maximum of five years. At the end of the 5-year period, the petitioner may request
from the Board of County Commissioners a 1-year extension. No additional extensions
may be permitted for this use. If the petitioners wish to continue operation of the air
curtain incinerator beyond the 5 years + 1 year extension they will be required to
submit an application for a new Conditional Use Permit.
Mr. Grande stated that he believed that they had heard another petition for an air curtain
incinerator on the same property. Ms. Snay explained it is the same location and the same
property as previously applied for. Mr. Grande stated he would like Staff to explain why this is
different from the last application submitted. Ms. Snay stated that it does not differ from the
original request except for the modified conditions of approval in the Staff report and that the
applicant is different.
Mr. McCurdy questioned when the shoulder work would be done and completed on Orange
Avenue. Mr. Kelly stated that he did not have any specific dates but from what he has heard it
was in the process right now.
Mr. Hearn asked what the distance was from the site to the nearest habitable structure. Ms. Snay
stated that it was approximately a mile or two away. Mr. Hearn questioned if the previous
application was withdrawn and what the reason was that it could be resubmitted. Mr. Kelly stated
that the previous application was withdrawn and that the limitation in the Land Development
Code only applied to a rezoning that was denied, but there was no time limit for conditional use
permits.
Chairman Matthes questioned if the U (Utilities) Zoning was the only option for the petitioner in
order to be able to operate an air curtain incinerator. Mr. Kelly confirmed that was correct.
Chairman Matthes stated that he would like to see if there were any other options because he has
a problem with rezoning a piece of property permanently just for a five year conditional use. Mr.
Kelly stated that the only other option would be to amend the Land Development Code to allow
for this type of use as a conditional use in the AG-5 (Agricultural - 1 du/5 acres) Zoning District.
Chairman Matthes questioned how long that type of request would take to be reviewed. Mr.
Kelly stated that those types of requests are usually grouped together but with the direction of the
Commission could be done sooner and possibly brought to the Planning and Zoning Commission
at the October meeting.
Mr. Akins questioned if it would be possible to approve the change in zoning with a type of
for the conditional use. Mr. Kelly stated that a change in zoning cannot be conditioned and Ms.
Young agreed.
Mr. Lounds questioned how far the subject property was from Orange Avenue and Ms. Snay
stated it was approximately 1 mile north of it. Mr. Grande stated that previously the most
significant testimony he heard with regards to the air curtain incinerator that was passed prior to
this request was that it was not able to function properly and had many problems. He then
questioned if there were any updates on the current conditions of that offending facility. Mr.
Kelly stated that he was not in that department but believed they were still in violation.
Chairman Matthes asked if the petitioner was present. Mr. Matthew Wynne stated that he was the
petitioner and that he did have a representative from the Division of Forestry as well as an air
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curtain incinerator business representative present to answer any of the Commissions technical
questions. He also stated that he had signed petitions from those who have homes surrounding
the subject property who all have stated that they have never had any problems with their
operations all these years. He advised that the change in zoning and conditional use permit would
allow them to install and operate the incinerator, which would do an even better job. He
continued that he was aware of the complaints and problems with the other facility that is
currently operating and submitted a letter from the St. Lucie County Code Enforcement
Department that states that there have not been any complaints with regards to their property in
the past ten years.
Mr. Wynne stated that they have been burning on his property for several years and that many of
stated that he has
heard some concerns about spot zoning and he does not consider this spot zoning because there
are no pre-determined areas for U (Utilities) Zoning and must be requested to be changed to that
zoning. He continued that the conditional and permitted uses in the U (Utilities) Zoning are
compatible with the agricultural area operations. He also stated that most of the uses in the U
(Utilities) Zoning would not make any economical sense to place out in the area of the subject
property, with the exception of the air curtain incinerator.
Mr. Wynne advised that some of the previous concerns were the increase in truck traffic. He
any increase in the traffic since they have already been there. He also stated that their main
reason for doing this is because they have over 2,000 acres of old grove on their ranch and would
like to burn that grove material as well so they can convert it into pasture land. He continued that
if they chose to keep the grove instead of making it into pasture they would be generating much
more truck traffic than by operating an air curtain incinerator. He stated that another issue of
concern was the bad road conditions on Orange Avenue and that issue is being addressed by the
current reconstruction of that area by Dickerson. He advised that the travel lanes are being
widened by two feet and then will be resurfaced (the entire road) with two inches of asphalt and
striped with reflective striping and also center bumpers may be added.
Mr. Wynne stated that he did not feel condition number three of the original Staff report was
accurate because their site would not just be for materials from Wynne Ranch. He advised that
information was not correct because Wynne Ranch is the landowner but Port St. Lucie Tractor
Services, which is operated by Mr. Revels, would be the only company using the site. He stated
that he wanted to make it clear that it was not just Wynne material that would be disposed of in
the incinerator, but just that the only company using the site would be Port St. Lucie Tractor. He
continued that this incinerator would not be open to the public and would not allow anyone else
in the land clearing business to use the site. He also stated that they have no problems with
having restrictions placed on the operations. He advised that after some discussions with several
of the opposing parties they came up with some restrictions of their own.
1. The Conditional Use Perm
the end of 5 years.
2. The incinerator will be used only for vegetative material from St. Lucie
County, delivered to the site by trucks owned and operated by Port St. Lucie
Tractor.
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3. The Conditional Use Pe
incinerator approved by DEP.
Mr. Wynne stated that they have been open burning on the subject property for three years
without one complaint. He advised that his residence is actually the second closest residence to
the site. He asked that if the Commission recommends approval of their request, that they include
the three agreed upon conditions previously listed. He continued that he has had discussions with
Ms. Adams, Judge Alderman and his wife Jean and have come to the compromise of these
conditions and are now agreeable.
Mr. Akins asked Staff if they could condition the conditional use permit for a reapplication for a
change in zoning after the five-year period. Mr. Kelly stated that would most likely be
considered conditioning the rezoning and that they could ask the petitioner to reapply at that time
Wynne stated that he would not have a problem with doing that after the conditional use permit
expires. He submitted copies of all of the surrounding property owner letters as well as a copy of
the conditions and the letter from Code Enforcement to be kept for the record.
Mr. Merritt stated that his previous objection was the width of Orange Avenue and questioned
what the time frame of the widening would be. Mr. Wynne stated that the work has already
begun on Orange Avenue and that Dickerson has advised him that the entire project was
supposed to be completed by Thanksgiving.
Mr. Hearn questioned if Mr. Wynne was planning on having any material brought into the site
from outside of St. Lucie County. Mr. Wynne stated that they would not be dealing with
anything outside of the County as stated in condition two of his list.
Mr. Lounds confirmed that Mr. Wynne has been open burning for three years now. Mr. Wynne
stated that they are planning on taking out the orange groves, but over the past three years they
have actually been open burning the material from job sites within St. Lucie County. Mr. Lounds
questioned if condition number six of the original staff report was also a condition of the
offending facility that was previously approved. Mr. Kelly stated that he was not sure that it was
one of their conditions, but that if it was, it was clearly being violated, with regards to
stockpiling. Mr. Lounds stated that he is concerned because they need to be able to pile this
at could be done
within 48 hours. Mr. Wynne stated that he was not aware of that 48-hour time limit and that
would be a problem because the material needs time to dry completely before burning so it
tions in the Staff report applied to the
whole property or just to the 9.9 acres. Ms. Snay confirmed it only applied to the 9.9 acres that
deal with the actual operation of the air curtain incinerator. Mr. Wynne stated that he would like
to change the time limit from 48 hours to a different amount of time. Mr. Kelly stated that the
intent of the condition was to avoid having a very large pile of material building up, unburned.
Chairman Matthes opened the public hearing.
Mr. Paul Revels, of Port St.
operation is done for six months on any parcel of land and then off for six months. He continued
that the County code is the one that states that a conditional use permit and rezoning to U
(Utilities) is required, not DEP. He stated that when they started these operations three years ago
and used open burning because it was less expensive than chipping it. He also stated that the
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Division of Forestry must issue the burn permits and that if it is raining or foggy they will not
issue any permits. He advised that he employs thirty people and that burning the material rather
than chipping it, helps to keep the cost of land clearing down for homeowners. He continued that
he agreed that 48 hours would not be enough time to allow the materials to dry and burn properly
and that he thinks that it would need to sit for 60 to 90 days to dry completely.
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Mr. James Alderman stated that he resides at 13510 NE 224 Street in Okeechobee and that his
this petition was presented and raised several objections to the project, which is why Mr. Revels
withdrew his petition. He continued that they have had an opportunity to sit down with Mr.
Wynne and discuss their objections and see if they could reach a compromise in order to allow
him to do what he needs to do but give them comfort at the same time. He stated that the three
conditions he presented did come as a result of the meeting. He also stated that they still have
some concerns, one of which is establishing a precedent on Orange Avenue for incinerators. He
advised that they are aware that these types of incinerators can be operated correctly and that Mr.
Wynne usually does his work right.
because Mr. Wynne gets a conditional use with restrictions that someone else would be able to
come into the same general area and use that as a precedent. He also stated that this is a unique
situation that cannot be duplicated and that the time limitation is also unique because the total
amount of time that Mr. Wynne wants to operate this type of site. He continued that the reason
that Mr. Wynne agreed to the condition of the specific above ground type of incinerator is
that the road improvements and these conditions are what they were looking for and that the
additional one-year extension that is mentioned in the Staff report was not part of their agreement
and therefore should not be included as part of the conditions. He stated that they have requested
that the conditional use sunset after five years and that any further requests to do anything other
than the permitted agricultural uses they would object to. He again stated that is a unique
situation that he did not feel could be duplicated by anyone else between the County line and the
offending incinerator that already exists. He finished by stating that he and his wife do not object
to the petition with their added conditions.
Mr. Merritt questioned if Judge Alderman had any information about how the Commission might
handle any other requests that may come in for another incinerator that may cite this petition, if
used a precedent for someone else because they would not be able to duplicate the unique facts of
this particular situation. He continued that this application is several thousands of acres with this
ten acres embedded within the area and that the only other ranch in the area that might have a
similar situation would be the
operation there. He stated that if they received a request, it would probably be from someone
who operates this type of business all the time and that would not be the same.
Mr. Lounds
haze and the heat plume and questioned if he was satisfied now that this type of incinerator would
have a quality burn. Judge Alderman stated that he is satisfied based on the information he was
given by Lee and Cindy Adams, who went to Martin County to actually inspect and view the
proper operation of an above ground incinerator. He continued that since Mr. Wynne is going to
personally responsible for this operation and they respect his reputation and his word that it will
be done correctly.
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Mr. Hearn stated that he has heard enough testimony from those in favor of the project to
convince him that they should move this forward, but would like to see if there was anyone in the
public who has objections to the project.
but had a question as to approximately how many trucks would be entering and leaving the
facility daily. She also questioned if the applicant would not be allowed to burn on Saturday or
Sunday. Ms. Snay stated that one of the conditions listed in the Staff report was that they would
not be allowed to operate on either Saturday or Sunday. Ms. Wymen stated that she too would
like to have the wording concerning the extra year removed from the conditions since that was
not agreed upon. Ms. Snay stated that since Mr. Wynne is requesting only the five years, they
would go by his request. Ms. Wymen questioned where the nearest fire station was in regards to
the subject property. Ms. Snay advised the nearest one was Station No. 11, which is on Shinn
Road and is approximately 8 miles to the southeast. Mr. Lounds confirmed that she resides west
of Judge Alderman and Ms. Wymen confirmed that was correct but stated she travels down that
road daily to other property that she owns on Orange Avenue. Mr. Lounds questioned if she
burns her pastures on her ranch and Ms. Wymen stated they do occasionally do controlled burns.
Ms. Wymen also stated that they burn in conjunction with their neighbor and have tractors
standing by and many people monitoring the burns at all times.
Ms. Cynthia Adams, 25305 Orange Avenue, Adams Ranch stated that the problems with the
offending incinerator to the east of their property do continue to this day. She advised that the
owner has been cited again and that she has been in constant contact with Mr. Spitero at the
Division of Forestry, who advised her that the situation has been turned over to DEP for review.
She continued that for the past year they have been in the down draft of the smoke from this
facility, it has been a public nuisance and that St. Lucie County had not been willing to step in to
remedy the situation, until now. She advised that her major concern with approving another one
of these types of operations is that the County will take measures to remedy any problems that
may arise with these operations. She continued that she did visit Airburners LLC in Palm City,
who manufacture the incinerators and the principle is wonderful if it is applied and used properly.
debris they are bringing in and that she feels it has become a commercial operation. She advised
that she wants to be sure that it is on record that the problems with the previously approved
facility have gone on for far longer than they should have. Chairman Matthes stated that he
would like to strongly suggest that she present that information to the Board of County
Commissioners when it is heard before them because they have the ability to act upon these
issues and this Commission is only an advisory board.
Mr. Akins questioned if Ms. Adams was in support of Mr. Wy
conditions that he presented. Ms. Adams stated she was in support, they want to be good
any other circumstance.
Mr. Joe Spitero stated that he was the Forest Area Supervisor from the Division of Forestry for
St. Lucie and Indian River Counties. He advised that 48 hours, under their requirements, would
not be sufficient because under Florida Law you cannot burn green or wet materials. He stated
that he thought a waiting period of 3 months might too excessive and that they recommend 30
45 days. He continued that generally after that amount of time it is dry enough, but if it has been
raining a lot then there would be a problem and would need a longer waiting period. He stated
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that the amount of time really depends on the time of the year. He also stated that trench burners
do work properly when used the way they should be. He advised that DEP should be the
permitting agency for the proposed incinerator on Wynne Ranch and that they are supposed to be
handling the existing offending facility as well. He continued that he has requested a meeting
between their agency, the DEP and St. Lucie County so that they can have this all transitioned
-end loaders are used with trench burners
and track hoes are used for box burners and both can suppress a fire if it escapes.
Mr. Grande questioned why the existing offending air burner has not been able to brought under
control and if it is under the jurisdiction of the Division of Forestry. Mr. Spitero stated that there
was some misunderstanding in the beginning because they thought it was part of a County
ordinance and under their rules, they can only ask the offender to get the incinerator back into
compliance. He confirmed that Ms. Adams has contacted them on numerous occasions and they
have gone out and talked to Mr. Vickers and Mr. Tally and they brought themselves back into
compliance for a while. He advised that the pits of a trench burner deteriorate because of the soil
and once the problems are developed they have to continue to burn down and then make them
redo a new pit. He also stated that unfortunately under their statutes there are no provisions for
numerous violations and if they continue to bring it back into compliance, they must issue the
authorization until another offense occurs. He advised that they deal with three different sets of
burning laws and there are no restrictions or provisions for constant offenses in any of them. He
also stated that he feels if Mr. Wynne goes with the above ground box burner instead of a trench
burner they will not have those types of problems.
Mr. Lounds questioned if the Forestry department had a preference one way or the other with
regards to trench burning, box burning or open burning. Mr. Spitero stated that under Florida law
they are allowed to do any of those as long as they meet the setbacks but he would prefer, under
-45 days to allow
enough time to dry before burning. Mr. Spitero stated that is a general time frame and it really
depends on the time of the year and the weather conditions as well as the types of material.
Mr. Hearn questioned if they were conditioning the applicant to have a box burner. Chairman
Matthes stated that Mr. Wynne has requested an above ground air curtain incinerator as one of his
conditions. Mr. Spitero stated that he believes that summary would be considered to be a box
burner. Mr. Kelly questioned if they should be adding that DEP should issue the permits as part
of the conditions of this application as well. Mr. Spitero stated that DEP should be the regulating
facility since this would operate for more than six months and was listed as a condition that way
Mr. Gary Ford stated that he was the Vice President of Airburners LLC of Palm City and stated
that there is not much more he can add to what has previously been said. He advised that he
would just like to reinforce a couple points. He passed out a brochure of the different types of
incinerators for the record. He stated that there is no guarantee that Mr. Wynne will use their
equipment specifically but they make both trench burners and the above ground fire box burners.
He advised that both systems do work provided they are operated correctly but the difference is
that the trench burners are much more operator dependant than the box burners. He stated that
box burners in most instances burn much hotter and cleaner than trench burners do. He continued
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that open burning smoke levels are generally in the 60% range and a properly operated air curtain
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incinerator would be within the 5% range. He also stated that there is a much higher risk of a
burn becoming out of control with an open burn as opposed to an incinerator. He advised that the
above ground boxes contain the fire and that the air being forced over the box actually will
contain the fire within the box. He continued that their manuals do give all the specifics
necessary and even include setback distances from where the air curtain should be with regards to
the nearest combustible pile.
Seeing no one else, Chairman Matthes closed the public hearing.
Mr. Lounds stated that after considering the testimony presented during the public hearing,
including Staff comments, and the Standards of Review as set forth in Section 11.06.03, St.
Lucie County Land Development Code, I hereby move that the Planning and Zoning
Commission recommend that the St. Lucie County Board of County Commissioners grant
approval to the application of Wynne Ranch for a Change in Zoning from the AG-5
(Agricultural - 1 du/5 acres) Zoning District to the U (Utilities) Zoning District because of
the need to do so to complete the petitioners need to install and operate a proper above
ground burner.
Motion seconded by Mr. Merritt.
Upon a roll call vote, the motion was passed unanimously (with a vote of 8-0) and forwarded
to the Board of County Commissioners with a recommendation for approval.
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AGENDA ITEM 7: FILE NO. CU-02-008 WYNNE RANCH:
This item was presented at the same time as Agenda Item # 6.
Chairman Matthes opened the public hearing.
Judge Alderman questioned if the three conditions that they had discussed with Mr. Wynne and
that he presented would be incorporated into the motion with regards to the conditional use
permit. Chairman Matthes stated they would be read into and incorporated as part of motion as
requested.
Seeing no one else, Chairman Matthes closed the public hearing.
Mr. Grande stated that after considering the testimony presented during the public hearing,
including Staff comments, and the Standards of Review as set forth in Section 11.07.03, St.
Lucie County Land Development Code, I hereby move that the Planning and Zoning
Commission recommend that the St. Lucie County Board of County Commissioners grant
approval to the application of Wynne Ranch, for a Conditional Use Permit to allow the
operation of an air curtain incinerator in the U (Utilities) Zoning District because the
presentation has addressed all of the prior concerns, this appears to be beneficial because it
is such a unique situation and is not intended to set a precedent and is subject to the
following conditions:
1. The business operation authorized under this conditional use permit shall be
limited to the short term storage, processing and burning of land clearing
debris generated from land clearing operations as defined below:
a. means uprooted or cleared vegetation resulting
Land Clearing Debris
from a land clearing operation.
b. means the uprooting or clearing of
Land Clearing Operation
vegetation in connection with construction for buildings and right-
of-ways, residential or industrial development, mineral operations,
or the clearing of vegetation to enhance property value and
aesthetics. The removal and destruction of shade trees due to storm
or insect damage is included as a land clearing operation.
The business operation authorized under this conditional use permit
is specifically prohibited from engaging in the business of land
clearing and yard trash recycling unless and until a new conditional
use permit is granted and the site is determined to be in compliance
with the provisions of Section 7.10.12(C) of the St. Lucie County
Land Development Code.
2. The use of the air curtain incinerator will only be permitted for use on this
3. The air curtain incinerator will be used only for vegetative material from St.
Lucie County, delivered to the site by trucks owned and operated by Port St.
Lucie Tractor Service, Inc.
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4.
be allowed on this site at any one time and must be approved and permitted
by DEP.
5. The total site area devoted to the processing, storage and combustion of the
collected land debris shall be limited to 9.9 acres.
6. The hours of operation will be from 7:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m., Monday
Friday. The ignition of the combustion fires may not occur before 9:00 a.m.
and must be extinguished one hour before sunset. Absolutely no operation
of the air curtain incinerator may be conducted on either Saturday or
Sunday.
7. The petitioner shall, prior to the issuance of any final zoning compliance,
which is required for this conditional use permit to be fully executed, shall
submit a copy of a Fire Prevention Plan for the combustion operation that
has been approved by the St. Lucie County Fire District, Fire Prevention
Bureau.
8. The petitioner, including any assigns, shall submit to an annual fire
prevention inspection to be conducted, upon reasonable notice, by the St.
Lucie County Fire District, Fire Prevention Bureau.
9. In the event that St. Lucie County is declared a federal disaster area
following or as a result of either hurricane or freeze damage, the County
Commission may suspend any or all of the standards above, with or without
restrictions, for the duration of the declared emergency in order to facilitate
the removal of vegetative debris.
Motion seconded by Mr. Lounds, with discussion.
Mr. Lounds stated that one of the conditions is requesting that Mr. Wynne must now go to DEP
this because Mr. Wynne must now
go back and get their approval because he was aware previously that they must be the agency to
permit this. Chairman Matthes stated that the incinerator must be approved by DEP. Mr. Lounds
stated that he read the condition to mean that the incinerator be approved for use by DEP but that
Spitero that this operation would be under the control of DEP, as the permitting agency and any
complaints would be made to DEP and not the Forestry Service. Mr. Lounds stated that was okay
then. Mr. Hearn questioned if this took all of the enforcement out of the hands of our County
Code Enforcement. Chairman Matthes stated that was not correct and that any citizen has the
right to complain to Code Enforcement and they can enforce those concerns.
Upon a roll call vote the motion was passed unanimously (with a vote of 8-0) and forwarded
to the Board of County Commissioners with a recommendation of approval.
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AGENDA ITEM 8: ORDINANCE 02-020 CLARIFICATION OF ENFORCEMENT
PROCEEDINGS:
Mr. Kelly stated that this item would be re-advertised and heard at the August 29, 2002 Special
Meeting.
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OTHER BUSINESS/DISCUSSION:
Mr. Lounds questioned what would need to be done in order to considering allowing U (Utilities)
conditional uses in the Agricultural Zoning Districts. Chairman Matthes stated that he too would
like to have that considered. He stated this would avoid having to do a total zoning change and
then have to have it rezoned back to agricultural later.
Mr. Hearn stated he would like to get a little more information about what Agenda Item # 8 was
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because he would not be able to attend the special meeting on the 29. Ms. Young stated that
currently the Environmental Control Hearing Board is enforcing that ordinance and this would
change that to the Code Enforcement Board instead. She continued that the Environmental
Control Hearing Board meets on a very infrequent basis and it was thought that it would be more
appropriate to bring this under Code Enforcement. She stated this would deal with anything
related to land clearing and recycling issues.
Mr. Grande questioned the information they received with regards to the conference in Key West.
Mr. Kelly stated that the information was provided for their information and they are not required
to go. He advised that some of the members might feel it could be useful to them and that the
County would be able to cover the cost of the registration fee but that the travel would be their
own responsibility if they wish to go.
Next special meeting will be August 29, 2002.
Next scheduled meeting will be September 19, 2002.
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Mr. McCurdy stated that he would not be able to attend the meeting on the 19 of September.
ADJOURNMENT
Meeting was adjourned at 10:00 p.m.
Respectfully submitted: Approved by:
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Dawn Gilmore, Secretary Stefan Matthes, Chairman
P & Z Meeting
August 15, 2002
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