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St. Lucie County
Planning and Zoning Commission
Local Planning Agency
REGULAR MEETING MINUTES
April 15, 2004
Commission Chambers, 3rd Floor, Roger Poitras Annex
7:00 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Ms. Morgan, Mr. Lounds, Mr. Trias, Ms. Hammer, Mr. Grande, Mr. Hearn, Mr. Merritt,
Ms. Hensley, and Chairman McCurdy.
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Mr. Akins (Absent with notice)
OTHERS PRESENT:
Mr. Randy Stevenson, Interim Community Development Director; Mr. David Kelly,
Planning Manager; Ms. Cyndi Snay, Development Review Planner III; Ms. Diana Waite,
Development Review Planner III; Ms. Vanessa Bessey, Environmental Resources
Manager; Ms. Heather Young, Assistant County Attorney; Ms. Dawn Gilmore,
Administrative Secretary.
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman McCurdy called to order the meeting of the St. Lucie County Planning and
Zoning Commission / Local Planning Agency at 7:00 P.M.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL
ANNOUNCEMENTS / DISCLOSURES:
Mr. Hearn stated that he had discussions with members of the public regarding Agenda
Item # 2 Vegetation Protection.
Ms. Hammer stated that she too has spoken with the public regarding Item # 2 and also
had discussion regarding Agenda Item # 3 Historical Preservation.
Mr. David Kelly stated that Agenda Item # 4 Northwood L.L.C. (Dickerson Florida
Inc.) has requested on April 13, 2004 to have their item postponed. He stated that there
has not been a specific date set yet, but that the item would be re-advertised, re-noticed,
and the sign on the property would also be changed to reflect the new date, once it has
been established.
Chairman McCurdy gave a brief presentation on the procedures and what to expect for
agency that makes recommendations to the Board of County Commissioners on land use
matters.
These recommendations are made after consideration of staff recommendation and
information gathered at a public hearing, such as those we will hold tonight.
The meeting will progress in the following manner:
The Chair will call each item.
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Staff will make a brief presentation on the facts of the request.
The petitioner will explain his or her request to the Board.
Members of the public will be allowed to present information regarding
the request.
The public portion of the meeting will be closed and the Board will
discuss the request. Further public comment will not be accepted unless
the Board has specific questions.
The Board will vote on its recommendation after its discussion. For legal
reasons, the motion may be chosen and read from a script provided by
staff. Motions both for and against are provided to the Board members.
The recommendation is then forwarded to the Board of County
Commissioners for their consideration and vote, usually within the next
month.
The Planning and Zoning Commission/Local Planning Agency acts only in an advisory
capacity for the Board of County Commissioners and actions taken are recommendations
only. Interested parties will also have the opportunity to speak at a public hearing in front
of the Board of County Commissioners who will ultimately have the final decision.
No other announcements or discussion.
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AGENDA ITEM 1: ORDINANCE 04-006 RETAIL FIREWORKS:
Ms. Mackenzie-Smith, presenting Staff comments, stated that Agenda Item # 5 was Draft
Ordinance 04-006, which would amend the Land Development Code by creating Section
7.10.25 (originally numbered as Section 7.10.24) to regulate placement of firework retail
stores. Sections 3.01.03(S) Commercial General and 3.03.03(T) Industrial Light and
3.01.03(U) Industrial Heavy Zoning Districts are amended to provide for fireworks retail
stores as a conditional use subject to the following requirements. She stated that the
fireworks stores shall be at least one thousand (1,000) feet from any other fireworks retail
store, established gas station, school, public playground, public park, and residential
zoning districts.
Ms. Mackenzie-Smith stated that this item was brought to the Local Planning Agency on
March 25, 2004. At that time, the Local Planning Agency requested information as to the
number of parcels that would be available for possible placement of a fireworks store if
the ordinance was passed with a 1000 foot buffer or a 500 foot buffer. She continued that
the Community Development Department has plotted the possible available parcels with
the requested buffers.
Staff recommends that the Local Planning Agency forward Draft Ordinance 04-006 to the
Board of County Commissioners with a recommendation of approval.
Mr. Merritt stated that he did not feel there was a need for this ordinance.
Mr. Lounds questioned why a five hundred foot buffer had more possible locations than a
thousand foot buffer.
Mr. Grande stated that he wanted more information about if this ordinance is more
restrictive than other standards, if this restriction applies to those gas stations and other
restrictions being placed within 1000 feet of an existing fireworks store, and where the
measurement is being taken from, the front door, the property line, or external wall. He
also questioned the need for this ordinance.
Ms. Smith stated that this came from the suggestion of the Board of County
Commissioners after hearing the ordinance about restricting firework sales in tents, which
requires they be sold in buildings. She continued that this is more restrictive and that the
1000-foot buffer was used so that it would be consistent with other buffers used in the
Land Development Code, to make it easier for Code Enforcement. She also stated that
she would need to review the draft ordinance to review how it would be applied to those
restricted areas developing within the buffered area.
Mr. Merritt questioned why this restriction is only for fireworks stores and not gun shops.
Ms. Smith stated that the firework concerns were raised by the Fire Department. She
advised that the intent of the ordinance is to keep these stores as far away from residents
as possible.
Mr. McCurdy stated that he felt this was an attempt to ban fireworks sales all together
because there are gas stations near residents and they are at as much risk of causing injury
as a fireworks store.
Mr. Merritt stated that he was a member of the American Pyrotechnics Association and in
their newsletter they stated that there was only one fire in a fireworks store in 20 years.
to regulate gun shops too.
Chairman McCurdy opened the public hearing.
Mr. Paul Schaul stated that he did not feel there was any need or use for this ordinance.
He stated that any safety concerns and regulations are already addressed through the
building requirements.
Seeing no one else, Chairman McCurdy closed the public hearing.
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Mr. Lounds stated that the concern should be with the safety of use after they are sold to
Mr. Hearn stated that he was not quite sure about this ordinance but wanted the
community to be safe. He questioned how many stores within the county would be
enough and if there was a need for any more.
Mr. Grande stated that he wants to make sure that the Board of County Commissioners
know that if they approve these restrictions they should be sure that a companion
ordinance is written to regulate the restricted areas from moving near the existing
fireworks stores and if that is done he would support this.
Mr. Merritt stated that injuries from fireworks come from reckless use, not the retail
stores and that he could not support this ordinance.
Mr. Merritt made a motion to deny Draft Ordinance 04-006 because it was not
necessary.
Motion seconded by Ms. Morgan.
Upon a roll call vote the motion was passed with a vote of 5-3 (with Mr. Grande, Mr.
Hearn, and Ms. Hammer voting against) and forwarded to the Board of County
Commissioners with a recommendation of denial.
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AGENDA ITEM 2: ORDINANCE 04-008 VEGETATION PROTECTION &
PRESERVATION:
Ms. Vanessa Bessey, presenting Staff comments stated that Agenda Item # 2 was Draft
Ordinance 04-008, which would amend the Land Development Code to provide for a
protection and preservation standards. She continued that this would also amend Section
11.05.06 to provide for a clarification of the procedures in regard to the issuance of a
vegetation removal permit. She stated that these changes were being made to make our
regulations consistent with the State regulations.
Staff recommends that the Local Planning Agency forward Draft Ordinance 04-008 to the
Board of County Commissioners with a recommendation of approval.
Mr. Grande, Ms. Hammer, and Mr. Hearn stated that there were some typographical
errors that needed to be corrected.
Mr. Grande questioned if two working days was a sufficient amount of time. Ms. Bessey
stated that it was sufficient. Mr. Grande questioned if there is a default, would it default
to approve. Ms. Bessey stated that was correct.
Ms. Hammer questioned that if there is a property that is less than an acre that they would
be able to remove any trees that were less than twenty-four inches. Ms. Bessey explained
that was correct and would remain the same in this ordinance.
Mr. Hearn stated that he felt this ordinance, as it was written, was very confusing and felt
this item should be continued for at least thirty days. He also suggested that a workshop
be held to explain this to the public.
Ms. Bessey stated that the Environmental Advisory Committee would be meeting on
April 21, 2004 from 5-7 p.m. in the Engineering Conf Room. She also explained that
they would be reviewing the ordinance before it would be presented to the Board of
County Commissioners. She stated that she would make sure that any conflicting
information and interpretation issues would also be corrected.
Chairman McCurdy opened the public hearing.
Mr. Pat Murphy, Hoyt C. Murphy, stated that he has received calls from a lot of property
owners concerned about this ordinance and how it would affect them. He stated that he
feels the ordinance needs some reworking. He also stated that the ordinance should be
tree specific and not so broad. He continued that it might be helpful if it cited specific
site plan examples and how the plan would be affected under these new regulations. He
stated that, as it is written, it is too broad and should receive further staff review before
making any recommendations to the Board of County Commissioners.
Mr. Peter Harrison, 23285 Orange Avenue, stated that he was concerned about the
agricultural exemption. He also stated that this new language also conflicts with some of
the old language that would be remaining in the new ordinance. Currently any
agricultural properties only need to do a ten-day notice and the way this proposed
ordinance is written they are required to actually file for a permit. Ms. Bessey explained
that the agricultural exemption is still there but this is just an added measure to help
regulate those areas.
Mr. Merritt questioned if someone would be required to mitigate if a tree is killed during
a pasture burning. Ms. Bessey explained that mitigation would not be required since the
tree was killed by nature.
Mr. Harrison stated that having to apply for a permit every time that they are doing ditch
clearing would become cumbersome. Ms. Bessey explained that general routine
maintenance is addressed in the proposed ordinance and would not require the permit.
Mr. Harrison also stated that he feels that citrus should also be included in the ordinance.
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Mr. Paul Schaul stated that he did not become aware of this ordinance until yesterday
because he did not see the notice. He stated that he is opposed to this ordinance because
what is already on record is enough. He feels this new ordinance would take away the
property owners rights. He stated that lot coverage requirement should be excluded; they
should consider front, back, and side setbacks, because this overburdens the property
owners. He continued that he feels this is a taking and that any parcels under three acres
should not be included in this ordinance at all. He also stated that he did not feel the
public received enough notice about this and should be brought back next month.
Seeing no one else, Chairman McCurdy closed the public hearing.
Ms. Hammer questioned if this ordinance was advertised. Ms. Bessey explained that a
display ad was published in both the Tribune and the News on April 5, 2004.
Mr. Lounds stated that he feels the ordinance needs more work and should be rewritten to
be more specific. Mr. Grande agreed stating that he feels it would be premature of them
had a chance to review and make comments on it.
Mr. Grande made a motion to continue Draft Ordinance 04-008 until after the
Environmental Advisory Committee has reviewed the ordinance and are satisified
with it. He also stated that they would not be continuing this to a specific date so a
new advertisement should be done prior to being heard by the Local Planning
Agency.
Mr. Hearn seconded the motion.
Upon a roll call vote the motion was unanimously approved (with a vote of 8-0).
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AGENDA ITEM 3: ORDINANCE 04-012 HISTORICAL PRESERVATION:
Ms. Diana Waite stated that Agenda Item # 3 was Draft Ordinance 04-012. She
continued that the item was being presented tonight for information only and was not a
public hearing. She advised that Ms. Ellen Uguccioni of Janus Research would be
making a presentation and they both would be available to answer questions.
Ms. Ellen Uguccioni of Janus Research presented a slide show presentation, which is
attached as Exhibit A.
Mr. Trias stated that he was very happy about this ordinance. Mr. Grande also agreed but
suggested that a definition be included for the CRA. He also stated that the CME should
be reviewing these since they included scenic corridor criteria.
Mr. Lounds requested a more detailed explanation of the type of tax incentive this
ordinance is offering. Ms. Uguccioni stated that if an alteration is done to the property to
increase its value they would only be taxed on the original value, not the increased value.
Mr. Hearn stated that he was struggling a bit with offering a tax exemption but felt the
ordinance was a good thing.
Ms. Waite explained that this was a discussion item only and would not require a public
hearing or a vote. She stated that it would be presented to the Local Planning Agency at
a later date as a full public hearing item.
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OTHER BUSINESS / DISCUSSION:
The next scheduled meeting will be May 20, 2004.
ADJOURNMENT:
Meeting was adjourned at 9:25 P.M.
Respectfully submitted:
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Dawn V. Gilmore, Administrative Secretary
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