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St. Lucie County
Planning and Zoning Commission/Local Planning Agency
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Commission Chambers, 3 Floor, Roger Poitras Annex
October 19, 2006 Regular Meeting
6:00 P.M.
Minutes as Corrected
A compact disc recording of this meeting, in its entirety, has been placed in the file along with these minutes as part of the record.
AGENDA
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Hearn called the meeting to order at 6:05 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Present:
William Hearn ....................................Chairman
Ramon Trias .......................................Vice Chairman
Craig Mundt .......................................Board Member
Susan Caron .......................................Board Member
Pamela Hammer .................................Board Member
Edward Lounds ..................................Board Member
Stephanie Morgan ..............................Board Member
Kathryn Hensley ................................Ex-Officio
Members Absent:
John Knapp ........................................Board Member
Charles Grande...................................Board Member
Ms. Hammer mentioned that since Mr. Grande is a candidate for a seat on the County
Commission, he is attending a forum tonight.
OTHERS PRESENT
Robert Nix ..........................................Growth Management Department Director
Gilbert Backenstoss ...........................Assist. Growth Management Depart. Director
Heather Young ...................................Assistant County Attorney II
Hank Flores ........................................Planning Manager
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Mr. Nix announced that staff is requesting that Ordinance No. 06-048, Jenkins Road
Planning Area Special District and P280 Land, LLC, Eagle Bend be continued to the
November 16, 2006 meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission. The applicant for
P280 Land, LLC is in agreement with the request and is here tonight to address the
Board.
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Mr. Nix also announced that Smigiel Partners VI, Ltd. has withdrawn their application.
DISCLOSURES
Mr. Trias disclosed that he had a conversation with the attorney for Orange Lake Estates.
Mr. Hearn disclosed that he had a conversation with a neighbor of Orange Lake Estates.
AGENDA ITEM 1: Minutes
Minutes from the September 21, 2006, regular meeting.
Mr. Mundt motioned approval of the minutes. Mr. Mundt also questioned staff about Mr.
BCC actions on applications
heard by the Planning and Zoning Commission. Mr. Nix informed the Board that he does
not have that information, but that information is being put together. Mr. Nix advised
that the Board will be receiving that information starting with their next packet. Mr.
-f items of the past two months.
Mr. Trias seconded; the motion carried 6-1 with Ms. Hammer dissenting since she was
not in attendance at the September meeting.
AGENDA ITEM 2: Ordinance No. 06-048
Mr. Hearn asked if anyone from the public wanted to speak on this item before the Board
motioned to continue it to the November meeting. No one from the public spoke; the
public hearing was not opened.
Mr. Lounds motioned approval to continue this item to November 16, 2006; Mr. Trias
seconded. The motion carried unanimously.
AGENDA ITEM 3: P280 Land, LLC PUD 05-032/RZ 05-033
Petition of P280 Land, LLC for a change in zoning from the AR-1 (Agricultural,
Residential 1 du/ac) and the RS-2 (Residential, Single-Family 2 du/ac) Zoning
Districts to the PUD (Planned Unit Development Eagle Bend) Zoning District and
Preliminary Planned Development Site Plan approval.
Anthony Guettler, on behalf of the applicant, spoke briefly and acknowledged that he and
his client are amenable to working with County staff and are in agreement with the
continuation of this item to the November 16 meeting with the understanding that this
item will be heard and a recommendation will be made to the Board of County
Commissioners regarding this application at the November 16, 2006 meeting. Mr. Hearn
informed Mr. Gettler
will be heard and a recommendation will be made at the November 16, 2006 meeting
anything unexpected may come up and cause the item to be continued. Mr. Gettler
acknowledged his agreement, but did mention that this is their third time on the agenda
and the item has yet to be heard.
No one from the public spoke.
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Ms. Hammer motioned approval to continue this item to November 16, 2006; Mr. Trias
seconded. The motion carried unanimously.
AGENDA ITEM 4: Gulfstream Developers, LLC PUD 06-010/RZ 06-017
Petition of Gulfstream Developers, LLC for a change in zoning from AG-1 (Agricultural
1 du/ac) Zoning District to the PUD (Planned Unit Development Orange Lake
Estates) Zoning District and Preliminary Planned Development Site Plan approval.
This item was presented by Hank Flores who explained that the subject parcel is located
on the north side of Orange Avenue, approximately 1 mile west of the Florida Turnpike.
The developer is proposing 63 single-family dwelling units with a proposed density of
0.94 dwelling units per acre. Mr. Flores explained that the proposed zoning change and
the application for Preliminary Planned Development Site Plan are compatible with
existing and proposed uses in the area; the petition meets the standards of review and
staff is recommending that this Board forward this petition, with a recommendation of
approval contingent upon the 17 conditions of approval, to the Board of County
Commissioners.
Mr. Lounds asked staff to display a map of the Urban Service Boundary. While staff was
preparing to show the Urban Service Boundary, Ms. Hammer questioned how long it will
take for water and sewer lines to be available, since this application is proposing well and
septic. Mr. Flores was unsure of the timeline.
Ms. Hammer questioned the notation in the report of the intersection that is failing at
Kings Highway and Orange Avenue. Mr. Flores indicated that the developer will be
contributing to intersection improvements (as a condition of approval).
Ms. Hammer also pointed out that she would like for it to become common practice that
any additional costs, as may be contained in documents, be attached to sale
agreements to ensure that potential home buyers are fully aware of additional costs, if any
before the time of closing. Mr. Nix pointed out that the developer can volunteer to do
that, but the County cannot mandate that they do that.
Mr. Hearn noted that the installation of sidewalks, prior to the Certificate of Occupancy,
should be a condition of approval, to avoid fragmentation of sidewalks. Mr. Nix agreed
and stated that sidewalks should be built by the developer right away and repaired, if
damaged during construction.
Jason Lidderick with Gentile Holloway, et al., representing the applicant, spoke briefly
and agrees with the conditions of approval as noted on the staff report. He acknowledged
that the developer fully intends to include any and all documents in relation to additional
with the purchase agreement in an effort to make potential
home buyers fully aware of said costs prior to closing. With regards to sidewalks, the
applicant will meet with staff to work out the timing of the installation of sidewalks.
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Ms. Hammer discussed some points of concern within the traffic study. She questioned
whether the 2% growth rate number was adequate to use. St. Lucie County is growing
rapidly. The County uses 3% as mentioned by Mr. Nix.
The Board discussed turn lanes on Orange Avenue. Ms. Hensley mentioned that staff
should coordinate with the Metropolitan Planning Organization with regards to the
proposed Orange Avenue and Kings Highway improvements.
Mr. Lounds discussed traffic flow during the am peak hours with Mr. Lidderick. Mr.
Lounds
the methodology used by traffic engineers based on dwelling type, etc. Mr. Flores
the applicant. Mr. Lounds voiced his concern with the large amount of traffic on Orange
Avenue already (especially that created by trucks) and the new developments recently
approved that will add to the amount of traffic on Orange Avenue.
Board members were in agreement that traffic concurrency in the north county is a
serious situation.
There were discussions of the proposed turn lanes on Orange Avenue into the
development. Mr. Lounds voiced his disagreement with the fact that there is no turn lane
proposed for west-bound traffic to turn into the development. Therefore, traffic will
back-up on Orange Avenue.
The attention was then turned to the Preserve Area Management Report prepared by Jeri
Curley, environmental consultant for the applicant. Ms. Hammer pointed out that the
age 12, line 11 should be changed and a stronger word should be
used. Ms. Curley agreed. There were some suggested changes as to references to various
departments within St. Lucie County, such as the Growth Management Department and
Environmental Resource Department. Ms. Hammer suggested that they be clearly noted
in the report so as to avoid confusion in the future.
Ms. Hammer complimented Ms. Curley on her report.
Mr. Harold Jurist, with Gulfstream Developers mentioned that they have paid $80,000 in
wetland mitigation. With regards to the Urban Service Boundary, he was in contact with
Fort Pierce Utilities and the County and although water and sewer lines will run to the
Turnpike (and this development is approximately one mile from the Turnpike), they
Mr. Hearn opened the public hearing.
The following members of the public spoke in opposition to this application and
expressed their concern with the traffic situation on Orange Avenue, the negative impact
on the population of the schools, the additional number of septic tanks, the potential for
the pollution of drinking water, the large number of units proposed (the residents of the
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surrounding area live a country life-style and would like it to stay that way - they feel it
should stay one unit per acre) and the potential for two or three-story homes: Coy Ward,
Verna Woolley (Ms. Woolley read her letter to the Planning and Zoning Commission into
the record), Kelley Charles, Don Windham, Philip Cooper, Helen Roeder and Jim
Sullivan.
Mr. Backenstoss read into the record, the letter received from Michael and Brenda Hogue
development.
Mr. Hearn closed the public hearing.
Mr. Lidderick clarified that in the documents the height limit for the homes
is two-stories. He also clarified that his plan proposes a bus stop on Orange Avenue (at
the entrance of this development) (although they have no control over where the School
District plans their bus stops); garbage pick-up will be handled through the homeowners
association. There are guidelines in the documents for suggested designs
of the homes. The homes will have a price range of $600,000-800,000. Mr. Hearn
commented to Mr. Lidderick that the County is really looking at making more
reasonably-priced homes available. Mr. Lidderick also spoke of the amenities and
buffering being offered with this PUD. T
requirements.
surrounding residents, that they plan on doing that so as to advise the residents of their
plans, etc.
Ms. Caron no
answered, but requested that the applicant answer the
regarding the amenities are they available only for the residents of this PUD? Mr.
Lidderick confirmed that to be true.
There were discussions and comments made by Board members with regards to the
differences in units per acre between straight zoning and the PUD zoning that is being
proposed. Staff did confirm that with straight zoning the number of units available would
be approximately 32 (approximately one-half of the number being proposed with this
PUD). The Board members were in agreement that the rural character of this area needs
to be retained.
Mr. Lounds motioned to forward, to the Board of County Commissioners, a
recommendation of denial of the application of Gulfstream Developers, because of the
comments brought up tonight by the Board members on issues such as traffic, utilities,
the septic and well systems, and the over-all general incompatibility of the development
with the surrounding area.
Mr. Trias seconded.
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Roll Call
Mr. Mundt yes to deny
Ms. Morgan yes to deny
Ms. Hammer yes to deny
Ms. Caron yes to deny
Vice Chairman Trias yes to deny
Mr. Lounds yes to deny
Chairman Hearn yes to deny
The motion carried unanimously.
OTHER BUSINESS
A.Growth Management Department Comments:
Mr. Nix commented on the meeting schedule of November. The meeting date will be
November 16. Mr. Hearn commented that since there have been quite a few items
continued to that meeting, should consideration be given to two meetings in November?
-out on Eagle Bend or the
Jenkins Road study, hough the Board does have
the option of using November 30 as a continuation date.
Mr. Trias commented that the County should require 11x17 plans from the applicant in
an effort
The discussions turned to the meeting date for the month of December. The board was in
agreement that December 14 would be the date for the Planning and Zoning Commission
meeting.
Ms. Hammer expressed her frustration with receiving incomplete applications. Trying to
review an a
complete. She is suggesting that staff not bring applications forward when they are not
complete (including staff reports, responses to staff reports, etc.) She also expressed her
frustration with receiving items just a couple of days before the meeting date.
Mr. Nix gave a brief explanation of the Central Filing System which is currently being
implemented in his Department. This system will adequately document the amount of
time projects are being reviewed by internal staff and the amount of time the
applicant/consultant is responding to staff report issues, etc.
Ms. Hammer questioned that , is there a list of
guidelines or regulations that Board members should make themselves familiar with?
Mr. Nix mentioned Sec. 380.06 of the Florida Statutes and Rule 9J(2) of the Florida
Administrative Code.
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Ms. Hensley commented that
attendance in the north County area, she wanted known, for the record, that there are two
high schools in the north County area (not one); and a new high school is being planned
for the area of the proposed research park (which is being planned for east of the
Turnpike to avoid water/sewer issues).
The meeting was adjourned at 8:53 p.m.
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