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1 St. Lucie County
2 Planning and Zoning Commission/Local Planning Agency
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3 Commission Chambers, 3 Floor, Roger Poitras Annex
4 March 15, 2007 Regular Meeting
5 6:00 P.M.
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A compact disc recording of this meeting, in its entirety, has been placed in the file along with these minutes as part of the record.
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AGENDA
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PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
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CALL TO ORDER
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14 Chairman Hearn called the meeting to order at 6:03 p.m.
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ROLL CALL
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18 William Hearn ....................................Chairman
19 Susan Caron .......................................Vice Chairman
20 Pamela Hammer .................................Board Member
21 BarrySchrader ...................................Board Member
22 Stephanie Morgan ..............................Board Member
23 Craig Mundt .......................................Board Member
24 Kathryn Hensley ................................Ex-Officio
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26 Members Absent:
27 Brad Culverhouse...............................Board Member
28 John Knapp ........................................Board Member
29 Ramon Trias .......................................Board Member
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OTHERS PRESENT
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33 Robert Nix ..........................................Growth Management Department Director
34 Gilbert Backenstoss ...........................Assist. Growth Management Depart. Director
35 Heather Young ...................................Assistant County Attorney II
36 David Kelly .......................................Planning Manager
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ANNOUNCEMENTS
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39 None.
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DISCLOSURES
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42 Ms. Caron and Ms. Hammer disclosed that they each, separately, visited the chimpanzee
43 refuge.
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AGENDA ITEM 1: Minutes
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2 The minutes from the January 18, 2007 regular meeting be approved, as corrected.
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4 Ms. Hammer motioned approval of the minutes as corrected; Mr. Schrader seconded.
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6 The motion carried unanimously.
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AGENDA ITEM 2: Minutes
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9 The minutes from the February 15, 2007 regular meeting.
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11 Ms. Hammer motioned approval of the minutes; Mr. Schrader seconded.
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13 The motion carried unanimously.
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AGENDA ITEM 3: Jim Coseo PUD 06-004/RZ 06-009
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16 Petition of Jim Coseo for a change in zoning from the AG-5 (Agricultural 1 du/5 acre)
17 Zoning District to the PUD (Planned Unit Development Shinn Lakes) Zoning District
18 and Preliminary PUD (Planned Unit Development) Site Plan.
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20 Mr. Nix advised the Board that a request was received, by the applicant, to continue this
21 item to the April 19, 2007 Planning and Zoning Commission meeting.
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23 Ms. Hammer motioned to continue this item to the April 19, 2007 Planning & Zoning
24 Commission meeting (at 6pm or as soon thereafter as this item can be heard).
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26 Mr. Schrader seconded; the motion carried unanimously.
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28 After brief discussions, the Board decided to take up agenda item 5, before agenda item
29 4, so that will not be
30 required to sit through their review and discussion of the proposed changes to the parking
31 ordinance. There was no objection from members of the public in attendance at that
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AGENDA ITEM 5: Fort Pierce #4 CU 06-006
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35 Petition of Fort Pierce #4 for a Conditional Use to allow the operation of a concrete
36 manufacturing plant in the IH (Industrial, Heavy) Zoning District.
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38 Mr. Nix presented this item, along with David Kelly, who displayed a site plan. Mr. Nix
39 explained that the subject site is located on Midway Road and the surrounding land uses
40 are industrial and/or utility uses. The proposed conditional use is not in conflict with the
41 existing uses within the industrial park or the surrounding area.
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43 Ms. Hammer questioned why a concrete plant is a conditional use within the Heavy
44 Industrial zoning category rather than a permitted use. Mr. Kelly explained that, in the
45 past, concrete and stone cutting were very noisy, dirty and dusty operations. Over time,
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1 technology has improved and those situations have improved since the time when the
2 code was written.
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4 There were discussions between Board members and staff with regards to this issue.
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6 The applicant included in the application a suggestion that the hours of operation be 5am
7 to 6pm. Mr. Hearn questioned whether or not they could operate 24 hours a day if a time
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10 Sean Campell, representing the applicant, introduced himself to the Board and stated he
11 Mr. Campbell also advised the Board that the
12 applicant has no intention of operating the business 24 hours per day.
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14 Ms. Hammer questioned whether or not the applicant is requesting these hours as part of
15 this application. Mr. Campell explained that the hours included in the application were
16 simply a suggestion.
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18 Mr. Luis Garcia, owner of the concrete plant, spoke briefly and explained to the Board
19 that they will cooperate with whatever the Board imposes, but feels that limiting his
20 hours of operation would put him at a disadvantage with his competitors.
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22 There were discussions between Board members, staff and the applicant as to the hours
23 of operation and potential noise nuisances.
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25 Ms. Young briefly explained the noise ordinance in place which will be enforced;
26 however, it may not be a violation since the nearest residence is approximately ½ mile
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29 There were suggestions of having the hours of operation from 5am until 10pm.
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31 Mr. Hearn opened the public hearing. No one from the public spoke and the public
32 hearing was closed.
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34 Mr. Mundt motioned to forward this application to the St. Lucie County Board of County
35 Commissioners with a recommendation of approval because the proposed conditional use
36 is consistent with the St. Lucie County Land Development Code and Comprehensive
37 Plan and Code of Laws & Ordinances and will not have an unfavorable impact on the
38 surrounding neighborhood; with a change to the entrance as recommended by the St.
39 Lucie County Growth Management Department and that the hours of operation will be
40 5am through 10pm.
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42 Ms. Caron seconded.
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1 Roll Call
2 Ms. Morgan Yes
3 Ms. Hammer Yes
4 Mr. Schrader No
5 Ms. Caron Yes
6 Mr. Mundt Yes
7 Mr. Hearn Yes
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9 Motion carried 5-1 with Mr. Schrader opposing because of the hours of operation.
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11 anning & Zoning
12 Commission meeting as he will be retiring.
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14 Mr. Kelly said a few words and Board members recognized and thanked Mr. Kelly for
15 his years of service.
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AGENDA ITEM 4: Ordinance No. 07-715
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18 The purpose of this public hearing is concerning the proposed Land Development Code
19 Parking and Loading Requirements Text Change.
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21 Mr. Nix presented this item and distributed to all Board members copies of minutes from
22 the Smart Growth Advisory AD Hoc Committee meetings of March 9, 2007 and
23 September 22, 2006.
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25 Mr. Nix reviewed, with the Board members, the minutes pertaining to this parking
26 ordinance.
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28 There was a brief discussion with regards to reducing from 10 feet to 9 feet, the width of
29 parking spaces. Board members did not agree with reducing the width of parking spaces.
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32 Nix gave a brief explanation and then agreed that a definition would be added in the
33 ordinance for clarity.
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35 Mr. Nix then reviewed, in great detail, the parking ordinance and the proposed changes
36 with the Board members.
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41 Mr. Mundt questioned the administrative relief mentioned on page 3, line 6. There were
42 discussions as to how much administrative relief can be given by the Growth
43 Management Department Director. After some discussion, Mr. Nix suggested limiting it
44 to 10% (of square footage) or 10 parking spaces, whichever is less.
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1 Mr. Hearn suggested
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7 Ms. Hammer questioned the difference between impermeable and impervious (at page 3,
8 line 31). Mr. Nix explained that there . Ms. Hammer
9 suggested being consistent throughout the document.
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11 There were questions as to what grass paving systems were. Mr. Nix advised that he will
12 add a definition of grass paving systems in the ordinance. Mr. Nix also advised that grass
13 paving system materials will need to be approved by the County Engineer (and the
14 ordinance clearly states so).
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16 At page 4, under Multi-Family Dwelling, Ms. Hammer pointed out that 2 parking spaces
17 plus 1 per 10 dwelling units for guest parking is not enough. After discussions between
18 Board members and staff, Board members suggested changing that to 2 parking spaces
19 per 10 dwelling units for guest parking.
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21 The Blti-
22 Family Dwelling and also directed Mr. Nix to change the wording so that it will
23 encourage developers to use other paving systems rather than concrete.
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25 Mr. Hearn questioned the acreage referred to under Detached Single Family. He
26 explained that he felt the wording was not totally clear. Ms. Hammer suggested having
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29 have the other sentence explain the rule for parcels less than 1.5 acres.
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31 *Ms. Caron excused herself from the meeting at approximately 8:00 p.m.
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33 At page 6, Mr. Mundt brought to the B
34 per seat for movie theatres. He felt that may not be enough. After discussions, Board
35 members suggested 0.36 spaces per seat.
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37 Mr. Mundt also to
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40 Mr. Hearn expressed his disagreement with pervious paving for shopping centers. He
41 feels paved parking should be required.
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43 .5 spaces where a
44 carpet store would require 4. After discussions between Board members and staff, Board
45 members suggested changing the requirement from 3.5 to 4.4 parking spaces (per 1,000
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1 sq. ft. gross floor area). The Board also suggested changing parking requirements for
2 Carpet Stores from 4 to 3.
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4 There was a brief discussion with regards to the parking requirements for Banks.
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6 The Board discussed Marinas (at page 8). After discussions between Board members and
7 staff, Mr. Mundt suggested (and other Board members agreed) changing that from 0.6
8 spaces per berth to 0.75.
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10 At page 10, Ms. Hammer questioned the 1 space per 4 seats parking requirement for
11 Stadiums. After discussions between Board members and staff, the Board suggested
12 changing that to 2 spaces per 4 seats.
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14 At page 12, there was a lengthy discussion of handicapped parking requirements per total
15 number of required parking spaces. The Board suggested adding another category of 0-
16 15 which should require 1 handicapped parking space; and 16-25 should require 2
17 parking spaces. The Board also directed Mr. Nix to look at the rest of the table and adjust
18 the number of required handicapped parking spaces as necessary.
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21 have direct access to a curb-ramp or curb- also suggested deleting the words
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24 At page 15, under paragraph 3. Shared Off-Street Parking Areas, the Board suggested
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27 Ms. Hammer also suggested same at page 16 (under paragraph 4, Provision of Reserved
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31 owner of the land upon which such parking is being reserved shall enter into a written
32 agreement with St. Lucie County which shall include a schematic portrayal as to how the
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36 Under paragraph 6, Context Sensitive Parking, Mr. Mundt suggested adding language
37 that will clearly explain what context sensitive parking is.
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39 Mr. Hearn opened the public hearing. No one from the public spoke and the public
40 hearing was closed.
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42 Ms. Hammer motioned to forward this proposed ordinance, as amended, to the Board of
43 County Commissioners with a recommendation of approval.
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45 Ms. Morgan seconded; the motion carried unanimously.
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OTHER BUSINESS
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3 Mr. Nix advised that on April 2, 2007 (from 9am until Noon) the Board of County
4 Commissioners will be conducting a joint workshop with the Planning and Zoning
5 Commission to review Chapters 10, 11 and 12 of the Land Development Code.
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7 Assuming there are no big issues, it will return to the Planning & Zoning Commission for
8 another public hearing.
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10 Mr. Nix also advised that the Comprehensive Plan Amendment Cycle for 2007 will need
11 to be done so that the County can adopt the Capital Improvement Plan Amendments prior
12 to December 2007 in order to meet statutory requirements. Mr. Nix suggested having a
13 second meeting in May in order to accomplish this.
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15 After discussions, the Board suggested having Planning & Zoning Commission meetings
16 on May 16 and May 17, 2007 at 6pm.
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18 Board members requested that Mr. Nix direct his staff to get materials for these meetings
19 to the Board members as early as possible prior to those May meeting dates.
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21 Mr. Hearn brought up notices of proposed developments. He feels that the
22 advertisements seen in the newspaper should include a clear description of where the
23 proposed development will be. Mr. Nix acknowledged that it is not always easy to do,
24 especially when the land has not been addressed yet.
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26 Mr. Hearn also suggested that Mr. Nix contact Mr. Trias in order to determine what Mr.
27 intentions are as relates to the Planning and Zoning Commission. Mr. Hearn
28 acknowledged that Mr. Trias has not been to the last few meetings.
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30 There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 9:34 pm.
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