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PUBLIC SAFETY COORDINATING COUNCIL
Minutes of Meeting
June 24, 2010
Convened: Adjourned:
3:33 p.m.4:33 p.m.
CALL TO ORDER
Commissioner Craft called the meeting to order at 3:36 p.m. in Conference Room # 3, 2300
Virginia Avenue, Fort Pierce, Florida.
ROLL CALL
Roll call was taken.
Members Present:
Bruce Colton, State Attorney
Commissioner Chris Craft
Suzanne Caudell, CORE Program
Thomas Mark, Department of Corrections
John Romano, New Horizons
Ken Mascara, Sheriff of SLC
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Judge Philip J. Yacucci, 19 Circuit
Janet Collins, Bail Association
Pat Tighe, Major
Members Absent:
Diamond Litty, Public Defender
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Chief Judge Steve Levin, 19 Circuit
Others Present:
Mark Godwin, SLC Criminal Justice Coordinator
Roy Hudson, FL Sheriff Association
Sarrah Carroll, Florida Association of Counties
Gaby Suarez, Rep Adam Fetterman’s Aid
Anne Bolduc, Senator Joe Negron’s Aid
Kathy Nelson, County Judge
William McMahon, SLC SO
Mark Harlee, Asst. PD
Dennis Schmidt, SLC Bail Assoc.
Deryl Loar, IRC SO
Mitchell Hilburn, SLC Bail Assoc.
Faye Outlaw, County Administator
Commissioner Paula Lewis
Charles Grande, Chairman
Joe Smith, Clerk of Court
Ethel Rowland, Taxpayer
Broderick Underwood, SLC CJIS Analyst
Allison Duffy, SLC Drug Lab
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Lisa Savage, SLC Pre-Trial Program
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
The minutes from April 29, 2010 were unanimously approved. May meeting was canceled.
UPDATE by SLC Sherriff’s Office- Sheriff Mascara/Major Tighe:
Major Tighe said that he had nothing to report at this time. Commissioner Craft thanked Major
Tighe for the meeting he set up with Mark Godwin, himself, and staff last month. He believes it
paid dividends immediately. During the meeting they reviewed some medical cases within the
County Jail to submit those cases to the Judges in an effort to put those folks on a different track.
These efforts were made so that the Tax Payers of St. Lucie County do not continue to foot that
bill.
UPDATE by Criminal Justice Coordinator- Mark Godwin:
Mark reiterated what Commissioner Craft went over regarding the review of some serious
medical cases and thanked the Judges for their quick response. Lisa Savage briefly discussed a
handout (Assessments on Inmates by SLC Pretrial (per SLC Jail) due to Medical Reasons). Please
see attached. Only initials were used to protect the privacy of the individuals. These costly cases
are reviewed and proper programs are determined for the individual case. These efforts save the
County tens of thousands of dollars.
Mr. Godwin went over the Detention Center Population Report that St. Lucie County Analyst,
Broderick Underwood produced. Please see attached. One of the changes made to this report is
a graph labeled: Average Weekly Increase/Decrease Jail Inmate Population. Also being tracked
is individuals sentenced to jail. Mark announced that Sarrah Carroll from, Florida Association of
Counties and Roy Hudson from, Florida Sheriff’s Association were there to talk about Legislation.
Mark went on to talk about a Legislative issue that passed last year, FL Statue 775.082. This
Statue effects jail population and since it was passed and implemented in July of last year they
have seen a static 45 sentenced inmate increase. This is not something you can calculate based
on average length of stay. He indicated the Jails around the Circuit maybe experiencing the
same thing. A conservative number of $60.00 a day for the 45 inmates times 365 days equates
to a $985,000 cost to the jail which affects the budget. He concluded his report so that the
Guest speakers can address the group on important Legislative issues that were proposed or
passed and how it has affected the Jail populations and County budgets per Commissioner Craft’s
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request. Commissioner Craft introduced the following from St. Lucie County: Clerk of Court, Joe
Smith, Commissioner/Chairman, Charles Grande, Commissioner Paula Lewis, County
Administrator, Faye Outlaw and countless other Special Guests Circuit Wide that were present
around the table.
Commissioner Craft discussed booking and handling of emergency medical cases. He asked Judge
Yacucci if there was a possibility of having a Judge assigned to these cases when they arise. Judge
Yacucci’s response was that First Appearance would handle that. Mark Godwin went over the
four ways the cases can be reviewed. At the front end it begins with the Deputy that takes the
individual into custody because the Deputy is aware of the medical issues. Next, the Judge at
First Appearance identifies those types of cases and proceeds with the appropriate arrangements.
Other avenues involved are the Assistant Public Defender who works at the jail as well as the
Pretrial medical case management review team led by Lisa Savage. Major Tighe gave an
example of a recent issue they had which got resolved quickly without having to seek the help of
a Judge. Sheriff Loar from Indian River County explained how they handle cases like that. Sheriff
Loar presumed that Okeechobee and Martin County operates the same way. Mr. Godwin
informed Sheriff Loar that the Sheriff’s of those Counties had been invited to attend the meeting
but were unable to. Sheriff Mascara of St. Lucie County added that in regards to Major Tighe’s
example of getting a problem inmate’s case handle quickly is the result of having a good working
relationship within the system.
JUDICIAL UPDATE - Chief Judge Levin:
The Chief Judge was out of State and could not
attend this meeting.
OLD BUSINESS
PRESENTERS: Florida Sherriff’s Association
(Roy Hudson – Director of Law Enforcement
Services)
Mr. Hudson provided a handout: The Florida Sheriffs Association Legislative Agenda for 2010
Please see attached. Mr. Hudson gave an over view of priority issues and elaborated on key
topics like Legislation: SB 218, Medical Expense Cap. He did not understand why this bill did not
pass.
This bill would have saved the Counties millions of dollars in medical costs. The reason is the law
would require payments made to a medical provider on behalf of an inmate or arrested person
to be made at the state’s Medicaid rate. The Federal government also pays the same rate as the
state and it seems that the counties are being discriminated against. His thought was that the
Florida Association of Hospitals probably fought this from passing. After having contact with the
Sheriff’s around the State a poll was taken and the outcome was a small estimate of somewhere
between ten and twenty million dollars could have been saved by Counties. Commissioner Craft
and others around the table quickly stated that the number is much greater than that and Mr.
Hudson agreed. He indicated that maybe a comprehensive study should be conducted with all
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the counties around the state and see what the number really is. Commissioner Craft said that
Lawnwood Hospital is charging us almost 400% of Medicare. Mr. Hudson suggested that we find
out where our local legislators were on this and why they were not behind it because it would
help every County. This will legislation will come up again. Commissioner Craft asked if there was
anything we can do as a group collectively to help push this through. Mr. Hudson indicated that
the group was doing something by having some of the local representatives at this meeting. He
went on to advise that the FAC (Florida Association of Counties) as well as the FSA (Florida
Sheriffs Association) and any other groups we do business with and have power or influence with
gets a hold of their legislators and let them know how important this is. Mr. Hudson reiterated
that they would not be asking for anything for the County that the State or Federal Government
does not already receive.
The FSA opposes any further reductions in the funding of the Juvenile Assessment Center. The JAC
is operated around the state by the Florida Department of Juvenile Justice. Mr. Hudson stated
that somebody somewhere determines what a high volume center is and what a low volume
center is. There have been centers closed and if that continues to happen it will create logistical
problems for Sheriffs and Police. This would reduce their ability to provide critical law
enforcement services to the community.
Mr. Hudson informed the group that there were over nine hundred pieces of legislation
introduced this year and his association tracked about three hundred of them. Commissioner
Craft and Mr. Hudson discussed how to have the general citizen get involved in these very
important issues.
Mr. Hudson explained that the Sheriff’s department agency started to post a political “hot
button” on their website so that the average citizen can dial up and see what is going on
politically. It has had a tremendous impact. The Counties website may be an option to get word
out to the citizens in addition to the County Commission meetings.
Florida Association of Counties
(Sarrah Carroll – Public Safety Advocate)
Miss Carroll provided a handout on the 2010 Legislative Session Final Report on Public Safety.
Please see attached. Miss Carroll went over the handout and elaborated on Legislation that
passed and failed. One topic that quickly became a top issue for the 2010 legislative session was
SB 782 and HB 445, the Pretrial Detention bills, sponsored by Senator Thrasher and
Representative Dorworth. This did not pass but will be brought back next year. Judge Yacucci
asked if “we” as a coordinating council taken an official position on this Pretrial legislation? He
suggested that we do since Representative Fetterman is the co-sponsor of that Bill. Judge Yacucci
said that our Pretrial Program has worked unbelievably well and his assumption was that other
jurisdictions have had the same experience. He went on to explain when they first spoke of the
idea years ago he was a little skeptical as to how it would be set up. They did not set this
Program up to fail and because we have people like Lisa and Mark it has worked unbelievably
well. Judge Yacucci said this is not a slap in any way at the Bail bondsmen. Judge Yacucci went
on to say that Judge Nelson (who was sitting beside him) spoke about this and they like and
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utilize the bail system. This includes the PTI system along with the bail, in certain cases they can
eliminate or reduce bail. He spoke of the savings benefit for the County utilizing the Pretrial
program. The Judge recognized the great cooperation from the Public defender, State Attorney,
Sheriff and all his staff. Judge Yacucci reiterated that we as a council should take the official
position of opposing that legislation. He suggested to make a motion and move that we do so
that it is clear that we oppose this. He said if Representative Fetterman (who he respects) still
takes the position to do away with the Pretrial program, he could not be more opposed to that
position. Commissioner Craft said that since we have time on this we can make a motion to get
our statement on the record and next month bring it back in the form of a resolution. Judge
Yacucci said that would be fine. Commissioner Grande asked if it would be possible since we had
someone here from Representative Fetterman’s office to invite him to the courthouse and have
him sit with a representative Judge and a member of Law Enforcement. He suggested they walk
him through the program and demonstrate to him step by step why the program is so valuable
and why the Bill may be counterproductive. This would give Representative Fetterman
information he may not have received so far. Commissioner Craft thanked Commissioner
Grande for that and said that we can absolutely extend that invitation. Commissioner Craft said
that he did have a cup of coffee with Representative Fetterman to discuss that very issue.
Commissioner continued that it is Representative Fetterman’s understanding that the Bill that he
sponsored and offered amendments to and were accepted would not affect SLC one bit.
Commissioner Craft said it would make sense to have Mark sit down with Representative
Fetterman and explain how it would affect us and then follow that up with an invitation.
Commissioner Grande agreed and said that Representative Fetterman has been incredibly
cooperative and receptive since he has been elected and I’m sure if we could provide him with
this information, he may reach a different conclusion. Commissioner Craft agreed that he has
been great and we are pleased to have him. Major Tighe asked Commissioner Craft if everyone
around the table could have the most recent version to look at before they make a motion.
Commissioner Craft suggested that Mark take a look at it and explain to the group how it would
affect SLC as written today. Commissioner Craft asked if anyone from the Legislation had any
questions. Gaby Suarez from Representative Fetterman’s office announced that Representative
Fetterman would be happy to answer any questions and she would be more than happy to take
them to him. Commissioner thanked her for that. He thought it was important to note that this
is not a single issue that we are bringing forward today. The cumulative effects of all these things
are significant to SLC. There is a fifty four million dollar gap that the County has and Miss
Outlaw has done a fantastic job cutting that down to forty two million, but we still have a gap.
Anytime we have the hospitals that are able to charge us 400% of what they charge someone
else we have to correct that. He went on to explain that anytime we have Senators or
Representatives that do not take into consideration how their decision affects us sitting around
this table and our ability to serve the people of SLC, we have to reach out. Commissioner Craft
said that it is out of sight out of mind and quite frankly it is our duty to get involved with them
and let them know how it will affect us. He thanked them for being there and expressed his
thanks for their bosses for allowing them attend. He was disappointment for the others who did
not take the time to attend because these issues are extremely important to us.
Commissioner Craft asked if there were any comments from the public. A citizen announced that
the Sentencing Project recently asked for Senate leadership to support the National Criminal
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Justice Commission Act which is Senate Bill 714 and House Bill 5143. She asked the members and
organizations in the room if they would consider supporting the Bills if they are not already. She
added that the Bills were sponsored by Senator Nelson and co-sponsored by Representative
Rooney.
NEW BUSINESS
ADJOURNMENT:
Commissioner Craft adjourned the meeting at 4:33 p.m.
Submitted by,
Carlene Filippini
THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE HELD July 29, 2010