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CITIZENS’ BUDGET COMMITTEE
Meeting Date: August 20, 2010
Conference Room 3
Meeting convened at 7:30 a.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Carl Hensley, Chair
Craig Mundt (7:31)
Edith Hepburn
Richard Pancoast
Dan Kurek
Edward Lounds (7:33)
Ryan Strickland (7:43)
Patricia “Pat” Ferrick
Bill Hammer
Ron Knaggs
John Culverhouse (7:37)
Patti Tobin
Dana McSweeney (7:36)
MEMBERS ABSENT: Jay L. McBee
Randy Ezell
OTHERS PRESENT: Faye Outlaw Larry Pelton
Lee Ann Lowery Jennifer Hill
Marie Gouin Mike Powley
Debbie Brisson Mark Satterlee
Fritz Georges Mike Monahan
Jack Southard Michael Brillhart
Bill Hoeffner Jim David
John Ferrick Eva O’Donnell
Beth Ryder Garry Wilson
Audrey Jackson Karen Smith
Kathryn Hensley Laurie Waldie
Wayne Teegardin Josh Saad
CALL TO ORDER
Mr. Hensley called the meeting to order at 7:30 a.m.
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APPROVAL OF MINUTES – JULY 16MEETING
Mr. Knaggs made a motion to approve the minutes. The motion was seconded by Ms.
Tobin and unanimously approved.
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UPDATE ON REALIGNMENT – Faye Outlaw
Ms. Outlaw thanked Ms. Lowery for filling in for her at the previous meeting. She said she
has started to meet with the departments that are scheduled for realignment and hopes to
have them implemented and a full report for the Committee by the end of September.
REPORT ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS – Faye Outlaw, Larry Pelton
Ms. Outlaw explained the County’s funding for Economic Development. The County funds
the Economic Development Council (EDC) agency annually. The last three years, the
County has been funding them about $250,000 per year. Next year, the funding has been
reduced to $225,000. They serve as the entity that does the recruitment. The County also
provides incentives. A little over $500,000 was budgeted this year. Those funds are used
for deals that are supported by the Board. Those dollars are budgeted for the Job Growth
Investment Grants (JGIG). The funds roll year to year.
After Mr. Pelton determines that there is a real prospect, County staff gets involved to
determine what the incentive package will be.
Mr. Pelton said they volunteered to take the cut in appropriations; it is not because of poor
performance. Most of their income is from their members. Last year was outstanding; they
closed nine projects with 2,500 jobs. They were the top in the State for a County our size.
This year, the economy is catching up. They plan to close 12 projects with about 1,000
jobs. One of the projects is called Project Energy. EDC works both with existing
companies that want to expand and recruiting companies. There should be 500-700 jobs
from expansions. Most projects are in the northern part of the County. It is encouraging
that some companies are doing well in this economy. The State is not funding incentives
this year. There are tax rebates, but the grant programs were not funded this year. It is
hard to close larger projects without incentives and referrals from the State.
EDC has been working with a task force on Project Energy. They are working on a
partnership with Oakridge National Labs from Tennessee. Mr. Pelton gave details about
Oakridge’s campus and plans for the future. They have been able to show how much
money they have saved on energy costs. The Department of Energy wants them to test it
in the real world. They have an agreement that Fort Pierce will be the first demonstration
city. A “Green Mile” has been discussed with technologies designed by Oakridge. Mr.
Pelton looks on the economic side. The community will be more cost efficient for doing
business. The companies that manufacture the technologies that will be installed will
become targets for EDC. There are 300 corporations sponsoring research at Oakridge.
The solar loan fund drew attention to our area. There are negotiations with a Fortune 50
corporation. Indian River State College and United States Department of Agriculture
(USDA) are potential partners. There is interest in alternative fuels. This County will be a
case study. It is embarrassing that New Jersey is ahead of the Sunshine State in using
renewable energy. EDC is trying to pull the elements together. They are proud and
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excited to be working on sustainable economic development.
Mr. Hensley asked how sure they are about the project. Mr. Pelton answered that the
closest element is the corporation. They don’t want to wait for Oakridge contracts to be
completed. They are attempting to get federal grants for the Oakridge contracts.
Mr. Mundt asked about criteria for the projects. Mr. Pelton reported on the loan fund.
Establishing loan criteria is in process. He gave details of the funding and said they are
not getting too public because they are not ready to make the loans yet. They are applying
to the Treasury Department for a Community Development Finance designation so they
would be a 501C3 loan pool. There would be benefits for the banks for their contributions.
He explained the process and caps. They anticipate the average loan would be $5,000.
Businesses can qualify. They have a proposed district. He thinks anything east of I-95 will
qualify.
Ms. Outlaw added that Mr. Kurek has been retained under a specialist’s agreement to help
organize the loan fund. They are pleased with his job. Mr. Pelton clarified that the loan
fund is a County program, not an EDC program.
Mr. Kurek said one of his challenges was that they are not traditional loans. If everything
prevails, the loans will be paid through a voluntary special assessment. The loan will be
based on the average life of the improvement, up to 20 years. The minimum loan is
$2,500. They are in the final stages of the loan policy and application. They are working
on a list of contractors, energy auditors, a marketing plan and procedures for issuing and
collecting the loans. He has learned a lot about solar energy the last 16 days. He told of
his experience with a solar hot water heater in the 1980s and how he currently heats
water. Small changes save money. He thinks the full system will drastically reduce energy
consumption. He gave information about a current St. Lucie County resident that normally
gets a negative electric bill. He added information on the cost and savings of the
equipment he uses and what he has researched.
Mr. Lounds asked if the EDC works with the Research and Education Park. Mr. Pelton
answered they do. They would like Oakridge to have a facility there. They would like the
companies that do sponsored research to have demonstrations of their technology so the
public can have access to real live examples. They hope for collaboration with the USDA
doing alternative fuel research. Mr. Lounds asked about efforts to get industrial
companies into the Airport and Kings Highway Industrial Corridor. Mr. Pelton said they
have a company that is trying to get bond financing called Health Chem. They are leasing
property for a 200,000 square foot facility. They manufacture a patch that diabetics use.
He explained the process for approval and plans for the future. They have signed a lease
agreement for the County’s property in the Airport Industrial Park.
Mr. Lounds expressed his concerns for small businesses that want to expand. He asked if
Mr. Pelton can help streamline the red tape. Mr. Pelton answered that he has someone on
his staff that works with those situations. The Cities and the County are open to helping.
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Mr. Lounds asked if he would meet with small businesses in the Chamber of Commerce
that have had problems. He answered absolutely. Mr. Lounds asked Ms. Outlaw if County
Administration would help organize the meetings. A community runs on small businesses.
Helping them expand would help the community. Ms. Hensley added the Chamber of
Commerce has a Governmental Affairs and Issues Subcommittee. The business owners
may feel their voice has not been heard. There is a place for them to speak. She thinks
Mr. Pelton was involved in going through all the codes to determine what was in the way
and what was perceived to be in the way. She feels the Chamber would be very willing to
work with Mr. Pelton to pull the group together. Mr. Lounds said we do not hear about the
successful businesses. He gave an example of a grower that wanted to put in a small juice
plant. $2,800 worth of permitting and regulations were required to put in a $1,200 well.
There should be some ways to help. He gave another example and expressed his opinion
that there are some disconnects in permitting and regulatory issues. He hopes that in a
three-way meeting some of the issues could be resolved.
Ms. Outlaw said she would follow up. As a policy, the Board set development applications
for economic development as a priority. Staff has put in a streamlined process. They will
look for glitches. They want to give existing business as much priority as new ones. Mr.
Lounds said some of it may not be County regulations. Ms. Outlaw gave an example of a
meeting she was in. All the issues were with the County to the north and County to the
south of us. She will certainly address problems with our existing businesses and St. Lucie
County regulations. She thanked Mr. Lounds for bringing it to her attention.
Mr. Hammer thinks any new construction should be built so it will not have to be retrofitted.
He thinks it should be a companion goal that would make this area even more unique and
attractive. Mr. Pelton agreed and said almost all architects are designing the new facilities
to be energy efficient. They feel residential should be included.
Mr. Knaggs shares the frustration of business expansion. You can streamline the system,
but some regulations must be changed, too. He gave an example of parking lot issues.
Ms. Outlaw thanked them for their comments. Mr. Mundt will report on his current request
for a permit.
Mr. Hensley asked Mr. Pelton to comment on the list passed out to the members (see
attached). Item Five was not funded so it is on hold. They are waiting for the next session.
Project Vision is looking for a building. The LED light manufacturer is planning to be in
town in September. They should know then when it will close. All of the expansions,
except Twin Vee have closed. Project Leeway is Tropicana. That is significant because
Tampa was considering doing the expansion. He hopes for companies that will bring lots
of jobs to the community. They also consider outsourcing.
Mr. Pelton gave details how Twin Vee was treated almost like a new business and told the
story of Silverline Plastics. Even when they don’t show big numbers, he believes they
have a big impact on our economy. Mr. Lounds feels 10 businesses with 10 employees
are better than one business with 200 employees. Mr. Pelton agrees because of diversity.
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RESPONSE TO SUGGESTED REVENUE INITIATIVES SENT TO BOCC
TONNAGE FEES – Mike Powley, BOAT RAMP FEES – Debra Brisson
Mike Powley, County Engineer, explained that Don West had prepared a memo to the
attorney requesting information on tonnage fees. The memo and answer are attached.
Because our port is held in private ownership, the County is not able to impose any fees.
Ms. Outlaw added that Port St. Joe is in a similar situation. All other ports in Florida are
publicly owned.
Mr. Hensley thanked Mr. Powley for the report.
Ms. Brisson, Parks and Recreation Director, provided information from a memo addressed
to Ms. Outlaw (see attached). In her department’s research, they learned that if you
institute a fee collection system, you need to have an enforcement arm to ensure
compliance. Because of the limited number of County boat ramps and the total number of
parking spaces, the cost of enforcement is projected to exceed the revenue.
Mr. Hammer is concerned about return on investment. He doesn’t feel it would be a heavy
burden to issue citations for infractions. It could be additional revenue for the County for
their investment. Ms. Brisson answered that you could set the rates to make the system
viable. The question is if it is a policy you would want to consider. It is estimated that one
patrol person would exceed the cost of the permits.
Mr. Kurek asked if part of the current charge for stickers is for ramp improvement. Ms.
Brisson answered that it is. Mr. Hensley asked if they were state fees. Ms. Brisson said
some of the money comes back to the County. The State sets the fees.
Mr. Hensley thanked Ms. Brisson and her department for the information.
UPDATE ON EMPLOYEE CLINIC – Wayne Teegardin
Mr. Teegardin showed a PowerPoint presentation (see attached). The County acquired
the old Chamber of Commerce building across the street from the Administration Building.
Permit and renovation issues were discussed. Mr. Mundt asked about the prescription
drugs. Maintenance prescriptions would be picked up there. There would be no co-pays
or deductibles and employees would not be required to clock-out for appointments.
Mr. Lounds asked if the Constitutional Officers and Sheriff’s Office will participate. Ms.
Outlaw answered that the Sheriff has his own contract. They have not discussed the
opportunity with the State Attorney’s Office. Fort Pierce Utilities has expressed interest.
When things are running smoothly, others can be added. Mr. Lounds asked about the Fire
Department. Ms. Outlaw believes the Fire Department has joined the contract with the
Sheriff’s Office. Mr. Lounds believes the more people, the more beneficial. Ms. Outlaw
thinks that Mr. Anderson met with several groups when he started the project. Each entity
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looked at their situation to determine what was best for them. She is hoping the savings
will prohibit increases in the medical costs and they can pull in other agencies.
Mr. Mundt asked how it is funded. Ms. Outlaw answered that it is the Health Insurance
Fund.
Ms. Ferrick asked about the staffing doctors and specialized doctors. Mr. Teegardin
answered that employees must be enrolled in the current health plan in order to use the
clinic. There will be a family practice physician and nurse practitioner on site. They would
be referred to a specialist if needed.
Mr. Culverhouse asked about the City of Fort Pierce being offered a chance to join the
group. Mr. Teegardin said there had been discussion. Because of the lag in getting the
project started, the discussions had been shelved. They intend to reopen the discussions.
Mr. Kurek asked about hours of operation. Mr. Teegardin answered that they plan to be
open a couple evenings and Saturday. Ms. Outlaw added that it would be a half day on
Saturday. Mr. Kurek asked about penalties for not using the clinic. Mr. Teegardin
explained that there are co-pays to visit your doctor. There will be no co-pays for the
clinic. Mr. Kurek asked about lab work. Mr. Teegardin answered that most lab work will be
sent out. It may be added at a later date. Carehere is also the provider for the City of Port
St. Lucie. If an employee lives closer to the Port St. Lucie facility, they may go there. The
cost coding has been worked out. Mr. Kurek was impressed.
OTHER ISSUES
Ms. Ferrick had a handout for the members (see attached). Ms. Outlaw appreciates input
from the Committee, but she took exception to some of the statements and asked that
Administration be given the courtesy to present the other side of the story. She gave
examples of a couple of the issues and her philosophy of performance reviews. Ms.
Ferrick told how she got her information and that she had discussed it with some
Commissioners. She is concerned about morale. Mr. Mundt asked that the discussion be
tabled. Ms. Outlaw wanted the Committee to know that she runs an open-door operation
and takes responsibility for what she puts in practice. Mr. Hensley said they are
concerned about morale of employees, but their job is the budget and they need to stay on
that topic.
Mr. Knaggs asked how the memo would be dealt with. Mr. Hensley said they could
discuss it at the next meeting if there is a factor that affects the budget. Mr. Knaggs asked
how the minutes are sent to the Commissioners. They are being emailed to the
Commissioners’ Aides when they are sent to the Committee members.
Mr. Kurek asked about the topics to be discussed at the next meeting. Mr. Satterlee
volunteered to report on what the Planning and Development Department is doing to
expedite permits if Ms. Outlaw approved.
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ADJOURNMENT
Mr. Hensley thanked the members and adjourned the meeting at 8:50 a.m.
Respectfully submitted by: Brenda Marlin
The next CBC regular meeting will be held on Friday, September 17, 2010, at 7:30
a.m., in Conference Room #3, at the St. Lucie County Roger Poitras Administration
Annex.