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AGENDA
Tuesday, November 8, 2011
9:00 A.M.
INFORMAL MEETING
1. CALL TOORDER -COMMISSIONER CRAFT, CHAIRMAN BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
2. MERRITT DITCH UPDATE: DISCUSSION -MIKE POWLEY
-COUNTY ATTORNEY
3. TCERDA FUNDING REQUEST -COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR
4. REDISTRICTING PROPOSAL UPDATE - MARK SATTERLEE
5. ST. LUCIE INLET ADVISORY COMMITTEE
6. ADJOURNMENT
CONFERENCE ROOM #3
ROGER POITRAS ADMINISTRATION ANNEX
2300 VIRGINIA AVENUE, FORT PIERCE FLORIDA 34982
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individual testifying during a hearing upon request. Anyone with a disability requiring accommodation to attend this meeting should contact the St. Lucie County
Risk & Benefits Manager at (772) 462-1404 or TDD (772) 462-1428 at least forty-eight (48) hours prior to the meeting.
Item No. 2
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Daniel McIntyre
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To: timm@mbveng.com OCT 2 6 2011
Cc: Daniel McIntyre; Ron Harris; JoAnn Riley
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Tim,
Having received a copy of your last transmittal to Dan McIntyre, Esquire, I thought I would intervene to
convey my thoughts as I am in the middle.
The very early plat of White City Subdivision delineated a system of streets of which Augusta Street was
one. There are no marginal approvals of governmental authority nor certificates ~of dedication. Plats in this
form are not uncommon, and the case law has construed such visual representations by plat as amounting
only to offers of dedication until public ~~user~" occurs evidencing acceptance of the offer of dedication. The
offer of dedication represented by the plat was for a street, not a drainage right-of--way. In Florida, a
dedication creates an easement. There is always the underlying fee interest that is vested somewhere. In
the absence of a reversionary right by the owner filing the plat, the underlying fee up to the centerline of
the street offered for dedication passes to those who buy the property on either side of the intended
street.
Since Augusta Street is now a drainage ditch the public user as a street is not possible. The safe call, and
the one I have made, is that the Merritt Ditch lying within the Augusta Street area is owned up to the
centerline by the property owners on the north and south. The County should obtain a fresh drainage right-
of-way with proper dimensions for ditch and maintenance berms on each side in order for it to assist. Your
property owner will be called upon for assistance in this regard.
I realize the above discussion is a bit arcane, but it is supported by case law in Florida as there exist no
legal documents, apart from the plat itself, for guidance.
Tim, I would be pleased to receive your call if I can provide further explanation.
Frank Fee
Frank H. Fee, III, Esq.
Fee, DeRoss & Fee, P.L.
Poppell House
A Designated Historic Property
426 Avenue A
Fort Pierce, Florida 34950
Telephone: (772) 461-5020
Telecopier: (772) 468-8461
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From: Tim <timm@mbveng.com>
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 9:35 AM
To: Frannie Hutchinson; Chris Craft
Cc: Lee Ann Lowery; Faye W. Outlaw
Subject: FW: Merritt Ditch
Follow Up Flag: Follow up
Flag Status: Flagged
Dear Commissioners:
Regarding this Merritt Ditch and Kymalainen Residence erosion issue that has been unresolved over the past year; it
appears sufficient evidence has been gathered by 5LC to accept responsibility for the ditch itself and the major erosion
issue. See-below correspondence. Title searches have been performed and engineering & geotechnical studies have
been completed. The Kymalainens wish to call you to action at this point and get something accomplished.
Please let us know where the County now stands on the issue. Thank you very much.
Sincerely,
Tim Maslin
Project Manager ~ MBV Engineering, Inc.
1835 20th Street ~ Vero Beach, Florida 32960
P: 772.569.0035 x 109 ~ F: 772.778.3617
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From: Tim [mailto:timm@mbveng.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October l1, 2011 10:36 AM
To: 'Michael Powley'
Cc: 'Aaron Bowles'
Subject: RE: Merritt Ditch Title Search Results
Dear Mr. Powley:
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Thank you for your correspondence regarding the Merritt Ditch. We have reviewed all the 3`d party documentation
provided by St. Lucie County and we are under the assumption you and your staff has as well.
First, we agree with the 3`d party title search performed by Mr. Frank H. (Speedy) Fee, III Attorney at Law evidencing that
the county does in fact own the Augusta Street R-O-W at the subject property. Mr. Fee states that he was "unable to
find any record of abandonment of Augusta Street or any conveyances purporting to convey any parts of Augusta
Street." This coupled logically with all the other related information we all have in our files should resolve the ownership
issue.
Second, we agree with the 3`d party engineering report performed by Mr. R.1. Kennedy, Professional Engineer and the
fact that both sides of the ditch are "sloughing at the toe-of-slope" evidencing that this is a regional problem associated
with the ditch morphology and groundwater dynamics. We also concur that the Kymalainen roof drains are CURRENTLY
causing "wash outs at the point of discharge along the northern top-of-banK' as described by Mr. Kennedy. We concur
that this point source erosion MAY contribute to the immediate groundwater dynamic and exacerbate the sloughing,
but this would be contrary to the referenced sloughing on both sides of the ditch and thus be considered negligible. To
further this item the owner believes the roof drains were constructed as exfiltration and did not directly discharge to the
ditch before the bank sloughed away toward, and met the pipe end. We also concur that the Kymanainen septic drain
field MAY contribute to the immediate groundwater dynamic and exacerbate the sloughing, but again this would be
contrary to the referenced sloughing on both sides of the ditch and thus be considered negligible. Also this septic drain
field was constructed and approved by SLC at the time with a 7.5' setback distance between the drain field and the ditch
top-of-bank. This separation is now zero, and some sanitary facilities are exposed.
Without legal representation at the moment the Kymalainen's agree to re-route the roof drains toward the Sunrise Blvd
roadside community stormwater system with their own finances, however they are requesting SLC to fix the ditch
appropriately and to compensate them for the engineering and consulting services SLC caused them to obtain by
refuting responsibility for the lands and public safety.
Please reply and let us know what plan of action SLC will be taking. We humbly request a reply within 15 business days
so that this issue may be resolved expeditiously. Thank you very much.
Sincerely,
Tim Maslin
Project Manager ~ MBV Engineering, Inc.
1835 20th Street ~ Vero Beach, Florida 32960
P: 772.569.0035 x 109 ~ F: 772.778.3617
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From: Linda Buchanan on behalf of Michael Powley
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 201110:40 AM
To: Craig Hauschild; Daniel McIntyre; Don West
Subject: FW: Merritt Ditch Title Search Results
FYI
From: Tim [mailto:timm@mbveng.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:36 AM
To: Michael Powley
Cc: 'Aaron Bowles'
Subject: RE: Merritt Ditch Title Search Results
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Thank you for your correspondence regarding the Merritt Ditch. We have reviewed all the 3`d party documentation
provided by St. Lucie County and we are under the assumption you and your staff has as well.
First, we agree with the 3`d party title search performed by Mr. Frank H. (Speedy) Fee, III Attorney at Law evidencing that
the county does in fact own the Augusta Street R-O-W at the subject property. Mr. Fee states that he was "unable to
find any record of abandonment of Augusta Street or any conveyances purporting to convey any parts of Augusta
Street." This coupled logically with all the other related information we all have in our files should resolve the ownership
issue.
Second, we agree with the 3`d party engineering report performed by Mr. R.J. Kennedy, Professional Engineer and the
-fact that both sides of the ditch are "sloughing at the toe-of-slope" evidencing that this is a regional problem associated
with the ditch morphology and groundwater dynamics. We also concur that the Kymalainen roof drains are CURRENTLY
causing "wash outs at the point of discharge along the northern top-of-banK' as described by Mr. Kennedy. We concur
that this point source erosion MAY contribute to the immediate groundwater dynamic and exacerbate the sloughing,
but this would be contrary to the referenced sloughing on both sides of the ditch and thus be considered negligible. To
further this item the owner believes the roof drains were constructed as exfiltration and did not directly discharge to the
ditch before the bank sloughed away toward, and met the pipe erid. We also concur that the Kymanainen septic drain
field MAY contribute to the immediate groundwater dynamic and exacerbate the sloughing, but again this would be
contrary to the referenced sloughing on both sides of the ditch and thus be considered negligible. Also this septic drain
field was constructed and approved by SLC at the time with a 7.5' setback distance between the drain field and the ditch
top-of-bank. This separation is now zero, and some sanitary facilities are exposed.
Without legal, representation at the moment the Kymalainen's agree to re-route the roof drains toward the Sunrise Blvd
roadside community stormwater system with their own finances, however they are requesting SLC to fix the ditch
appropriately and to compensate them for the engineering and consulting services SLC caused them to obtain by
refuting responsibility for the lands and public safety.
Please reply and let us know what plan of action SLC will be taking. We humbly request a reply within 15 business days
so that this issue may be resolved expeditiously. Thank you very much.
Sincerely,
Tim Maslin
Project Manager ~ MBV Engineering, Inc.
1835 20th Street ~ Vero Beach, Florida 32960
P: 772.569.0035 x 1 U9 ~ F: 772.778.3617
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COMMISSIONERS
Heother Young
Katherine Dovis [larbieri
Heother Smith
October 18, 2011
Mr. Tim Marlin
Project Manager
MBV Engineering, Inc.
1835 20`" Street
Vero Beach, Florida 32960
RE: Merritt Ditch Title Search Results
Dear Mr. Marlin:
COUNTY
ATTORNEY
Daniel 5. McIntyre
ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY
ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY
ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY
Your email of October 11, 2011 to County Engineer Michael Powley was referred to this office for
response.
Upon receipt of your email from Mr. Powley, I forwarded your email to Frank Fee, III, Esquire, who
examined title to the Merritt Ditch at the request of the County. I am enclosing Mr. Fee's October 12
response. As set out in the response, Mr. Fee does not agree with the assertion that the County owns
Merritt Ditch. Mr. Fee believes that the County would need to acquire a drainage easement before the
County would have the legal right to maintain the Ditch.
Please note that the County Engineer is scheduled to discuss the "Merritt Ditch Drainage Report"
prepared by Engineering Design and Construction, Inc. at the Board of County Commissioners' informal
meeting on November 8, 2011. The meeting begins at 9:00 a.m
Sincerely
Daniel S. Mc
County Atto
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Enclosure
Copy to: County Administrator
Public Works Director
County Engineer
COUnty $UNeyor
Property Acquisition Manager
F. Fee, III, Esq. (w/out enclosure)
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2300 Virginia Avenue Fr. Pierce. FL 34982-5652 Phone (772) 462-1441
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Daniel Mdntyre
From: Frank Fee <ffee@feederossfee.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:43 AM
To: Daniel McIntyre
Ce JoAnn Riley
Subject: RE: Merritt Ditch Title Search Results
Dan
I have reviewed the letter sent to Mike Powley from Engineer Tim Maslin representing the Owner's adjacent to the Merritt
Ditch. I don't agree-with its assertion the County owns the ditch.
It seems to me, the County can abandon the road right-of-way, assuming the early plat evidences a dedication (easement
only) for a road. Upon abandonment, the title vests in the adjacent owners so the result is the same. A drainage ditch
right-of-way needs to be obtained from the adjacent owners in order for the County to acquire the con-ect interest.
Speedy
Frank H. Fee, III, Esq.
Fee, DeRoss & Fee, P.L.
PoppeN House
A Designated Historic Property
426 Avenue A
Fort Pierce, Florida 34950
Telephone: (772) 461-5020
Telecopier: (772) 468-8461
email: ffeeCu~feederossfee.com
From: Daniel Mdntyre [mailto:mcintyred@stlucieco.org]
Sent: Tue 10/11/2011 12:01 PM
To: Frank Fee
Cc: JoAnn Riley
Subject: FW: Merritt Ditch Title Search Results
From: Linda Buchanan On Behalf Of Michael Powley
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 201110:40 AM
To: Craig Hauschild; Daniel McIntyre; Don West
Subject: FW: Merritt Ditch Title Search Results
FYI
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From: Tim [mailto:timm@mbveng.comj
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 201110:36 AM
To: Michael Powley
Cc: 'Aaron Bowles'
Subject: RE: Merritt Ditch Title Search Results
Dear Mr. Powley:
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,~ TCERDA
Treasure Coast Education, Research and Development Authority
2199 South Rock Roa d, Fort Pierce, FL 34945
(772) 467-3107 ofc, www.fcerda.orq
October 17, 2011
Ben D. DeVries, CRE FRICS
CEO & Executive Director
Commissioner Chris Dzadovsky
TCERDA BOARD St. Lucie County Board of County Commissioners
2300 Virginia Avenue
Jose Farinos, Chair Fort Pierce, FL 34982
Indian River State College
Dear Commissioner Dzadovsky:
Dr. Kathleen McGinn, Vice Chair
St. Lucie County School District ~ In response to St. Lucie County's emergency budget reductions, TCERDA's 2011-2012
General Fund Operations Budget was reduced from $109,875 to $9,875 and the Jai Alai
Hoyt C. "Pat" Murphy, Jr. gaming revenue was re-designated from tenant recruitment/marketing support to funding
Board Secretary and Treasurer TCERDA's operations.
Hoyt C. Murphy Inc.
To date, Jai Alai revenues have been paid through May 2010. Assuming 2010 gaming
Mike Adams revenues of $51,300 and if all arrears and current funds due through September 2012 are
Adams Ranch paid in full, Jai Alai gaming revenues of $113,400 are anticipated in the current fiscal year.
Jane Bachelor
University of Florida Historically, collection of the Jai Alai gaming revenue has been sporadic. Additionally, the
timing of future payments is unpredictable, making the operation of TCERDA dependent
Kevin Heinicka upon a highly undependable funding source.
University of Florida At the October 13, 2011 TCERDA BOD meeting, the Board unanimously agreed this
Stefan K. Matthes, P.E. funding model is not sustainable. -The Authority is unable to plan activities to recruit
Culpepper and Terpening, Inc. potential tenants needed to bring the vision of this Research Park to fruition. Lack of a
stable funding source will undermine our ability to attract prospects that seek a reliable
Erik Melville financially-strong partner.
Raymond James & Associates, Inc.
We share with the leadership of'the County the enthusiasm about the purpose and future
Travis E. Murphy, Jr. outcomes of this Park, but sound business planning requires that TCERDA and St. Lucie
River Country Management . County secure a more reliable funding source for the coming year.
Treasure Coast Agricultural Research
Foundation, Inc Therefore, in order to achieve our stated goals, we would like to request that the St. Lucie
County Board of County Commissioners advance the anticipated $113,400 into TCERDA's
Dr. Peter Stoffella
University of Florida gaming revenue account pending ultimate collection of the Jai Alai receivable by the
County Attorney s office.
TCERDA LIAISONS On behalf of the TCERDA, I ask your consideration of this request at the November 8,
Commissioner Frannie Hutchinson 2011 BOCC Informal Meeting.
St. Lucie County BOCC
Sincerely,
Councilwoman Shannon Martin d-scc~~la~
City of Port St. Lucie
Commissioner Tom Perona Jose Farinos, Chairman
City of Fort Pierce TCERDA Board
c: Faye W. Outlaw, County Administrator
Heather Young, Assistant County Attomey
Item No. 5 ~ ft,(`'
DOUG SMITH
Commissioner, District 1
ED FIELDING
Commissioner, District 2
PATRICK HAYES
Commissioner, District 3
SARAH HEARD
Commissioner, District 4
EDWARD CIAMPI
Commissioner, District 5
TARYN KRYZDA, CPM
County Administrator
STEPHEN FRY
County Attorney
TELEPHONE
772-288-5434
WEB ADDRESS
http://www.martin.fl.us
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BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ~°~ /~~C ~ '
2401 S.E. MONTEREY ROAD • STUART, FL 34996 ~ U1 ~ ~,`~
October 19, 2011 .Telephone 772-288-5795
Fax 772-288-5955
Email= jmeinard@martin.fl.us
Faye W. Outlaw
County Administrator
St. Lucie County
2300 Virginia Ave
Fort Pierce, FL 34982
RE: St. Lucie Inlet Advisory Committee
Dear Ms. O~w, ~~
The Martin County Board of County Commissioners (BOCC) is creating the St. Lucie
Inlet Advisory Committee whose objective is to review management and funding
strategies for the St. Lucie Inlet and to make recommendations to the BOCC. This
committee will operate under the Sunshine Law and Martin County Engineering staff
will facilitate the work of the committee. It is anticipated that this committee will meet
four to six times per year beginning in December 2011 or January 2012. A sunset date
(disbanding of the committee) has not been established but it is expected to terminate
when its recommendations are complete.
The Board has suggested the following entities be represented on the committee:
BOCC, Town of Jupiter Island, Town of Sewall's Point, St Lucie County, City of Port
St. Lucie, Hutchinson Island Group, Sailfish Point POA, Marine Industries, Florida
Oceanographic Society, Florida Inland Navigation District, Florida Department of
Environmental Protection, Hobe Sound National Wildlife Refuge and US Army Corps
(ex officio).
Martin County's representative is Commissioner Patrick Hayes. The representative
from your entity may be an elected or non-elected person of your choice. Please advise
if your organization will appoint a member to the committee, and if so please submit
the name of your representative and an alternate and their contact information.
Responses and questions can be directed to Kathy Fitzpatrick, Martin County Coastal
Engineer, at 772-288-5429 or by email at kfitzpat(c~martin.fl.us .
Sincerely, OCT 2 ~ 2011
Taryn Kryzda
County Administrator
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