HomeMy WebLinkAbout03 05 2014 Code Enforcement MinutesMARCH 5, 2014
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I. CALL TO ORDER
The Code Enforcement Board meeting was called to order at 9:02 a.m., by Mr. Fogg,
II. PI EDGE TO THE FLAG
All those present rose to pledge allegiance to the flag.
III. ROLL CALL
PRESENT
Chairman...........................................................................Mr. Ralph Fogg
ViceChair.........................................................................Mr. Ray Hofmann
Board Members....................................................................Mr. Wes Taylor
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Mr Randy Murdock
....................................................................................... Mr. Brad Curare
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Mr. Patrick Campion
Board Attorney....................................................................Mr. Jack Krieger
ABSENT
Mrs. Monahan was excused.
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES — FEBRUARY 5, 2014
Mr. Currie made a motion to accept the minutes of FEBRUARY 5, 2014
Mr. Campion seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
V. SWEARING IN OF STAFF MEMBERS
STAFF PRESENT
Assistant County Attorney........................................................Katherine Barbieri
Building and Code Regulation Manager.......................................Monica
Graziani
Building Official...................................................................Carl
Peterson
Code Enforcement Supervisor ...................................................Danielle
Williams
Code Enforcement Officer .......................................................Melissa
Brubaker
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Lynn Swartzel
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Momca Vargas Barr'
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Edward Roseberry
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Christopher Counsellor
Environmental Resources Manager..............................................Amy
Griffin
Public Works Civil Engineer .....................................................Michael
Halter
Solid Waste Operations Manager ..................................................Justin
Gattuso
Board Secretary.....................................................................Deborah
Isenhour
Carl Peterson, Danielle Williams, Melissa Brubaker, Lynn Swartzel, Monica Vargas Barrios, Edward
Roseberry, Christopher Counsellor, Amy Griffin, Michael Halter, and Justin Gattuso were sworn in.
VI. PUBLIC COMMENTS
None.
VIL CONSENT AGENDA
Motion for Reconsideration — Phyllis Jo Crown — Case No. 78065
Motion for Stay Pending Review — Phyllis Jo Crown — Case No. 78065
Mrs. Barbieri, Assistant County Attorney, addressed the Board and stated staffs recommendation as
presented on the Consent Agenda is to deny the Motion for Reconsideration and Motion for Stay Pending
Review. She stated staff has changed their recommendation, at this point staff is going to request that the
Board grant the Motion for Reconsideration, there have been some issues that have been raised and we
need additional time to look into them and this will just cause there to be a hearing next month and the
Board would still have all the same information you had before but there would be additional information
that could be added. She stated if the Motion is granted the Motion to Stay is moot in other words no
longer relevant. She stated staff is requesting that you grant the Motion for Reconsideration and set it for
hearing next month on April 2, 2014.
Mr. Campion made a motion to approve and accept staffs recommendation as presented.
Mr. Taylor seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
VIH. VIOLATION HEARING:
The following cases were removed, withdrawn or abated from the agenda:
Case No.
Location of Violation
Contractor/Owner/Violator/Name
79128
114 Castana Ct., Port St. Lucie
Chase Home Finance LLC
79338
611 Ash St., Port St. Lucie
Dorothy D. Roberts (EST)
78449
340 SE Sandia Dr., Port St. Lucie
Bob Y Lee and Tina Lee
79151
324 Airoso Blvd., Port St. Lucie
Evelyn M. Mendez
79149
272 Airoso Blvd., Port St. Lucie
Gabino Infante Jr.
78165
120 Castana Ct., Port St. Lucie
Gail A. Daker (TR)
78796
120 Castana Ct., Port St. Lucie
Jason Daker
78401
5312 Palmetto Dr., Ft. Pierce
Dawn M. Casper
75736
6109 Palm Dr., Ft. Pierce
Lawrence C. Chrietzberg
78822
111 Celestia Ct., Port St. Lucie
Darryl L. and Ruby L. Bright
78544
102 NW Airoso Blvd., Port St. Lucie
Julio C. Maya
78486
7104 Santa Rosa Pkwy., Port St. Lucie
Marius Kirla
79323
6708 Pensacola Rd., Ft. Pierce
Lak Kalra
78987
8403 Deland Ave., Ft. Pierce
SFRA III LLC
78386
2685 Ridgehaven Rd., Ft. Pierce
Nantone Development and Mgmt.
77499
2701 Cortez Blvd., Ft. Pierce
Clara R. Strickland (LF EST)
77500
2703 Cortez Blvd., Ft. Pierce
Pamela Wright and Kimberly Riviezzo
79325
117 Acadamy Dr., Ft. Pierce
Carita McNeair
79074
4114 Avenue R, Ft. Pierce
John Cobb Jr.
78713
1720 Valencia Ave., Ft. Pierce
Christopher T. and Felicia P. Nixon
79221
2211 N. 44" St., Ft. Pierce
Benjamin and Elizabeth Yeary
78552
Prop W of 1649 S Brocksmith Rd., Ft. Pierce
Karen E. Smith
77409
3318 Orange Ave., Ft. Pierce
Seminole Mobile Home Park LLC
77406
3318 Orange Ave., Ft. Pierce
Seminole Mobile Home Park LLC
77994
7159 S US Hwy. 1, Ft. Pierce
Port St. Lucie Plaza I LLC
78160
7159 S US Hwy. 1, Ft. Pierce
Jose Lerebouris
77838
12737 S. Indian River Dr., Ft. Pierce
Stacie and Michael Persin
Case 91, Case No. 74339 was heard first on the agenda:
Case #74339, Location of violation, 7211 Elyse Cir., Ft. Pierce, FL, Property Owner, Bernice M. and
Robert P. Burkarth. Mr. Burkarth was sworn in by the Board's Secretary.
Officer Brubaker stated this case was continued from the December 6, 2013 Code Board. She stated for the
record I am resubmitting three (3) photos, one (1) dated October 24, 2012, one (1) dated May 28, 2013, and
one (1) dated November 26, 2013. She also submitted one (1) photo dated February 25, 2014. She stated
during her first inspection she found 7211 Elyse Cir. in violation of Section 13.00.01, Article 103.5, Unsafe
Structures, as the seawall and dock needed to be repaired or removed. She issued a letter and gave a
compliance date of December 7, 2012. She noted on February 27, 2014 the property owner applied for a
seawall permit. She stated she has had contact with the owner and discussed ways to correct the violation.
She stated as of March 4, 2014 the property remains in violation and the permit is pending.
Chairman Fogg asked Mr. Burkarth if he felt he is in violation or not.
Mr. Burkarth stated he is in violation.
Mr. Fogg asked him to explain.
Mr. Burkarth stated as he said the last time he was here it has been quite the process, but he believes not
that we are at the point where he has a contractor and permitting said they are working at three weeks out
on permit approval, so he has to get plans, a boundary survey, he has a contractor who is three weeks out
fi•om permit approval. He stated he believes he has DEP approval.
Chairman Fogg stated so what you are saying is you need some time to do this and asked Mr. Burkarth
what his time fi-ame on this is.
Mr. Burkarth stated they put the permit in and were told no more than two months from that date. He
stated that is what the contractor told him.
Chairman Fogg stated so if we gave you until June you should be done.
Mr. Burkarth stated hopefully before June and by April.
Chairman Fogg stated if we can give you an extra month you might want to take it.
Mr. Burkarth said it has been a terrible process.
Mr. Currie asked Mr. Burkarth if he had submitted a permit to St. Lucie County and do you have a DEP
permit.
Mr. Burkarth stated I believe I have a DEP permit, he has the application.
Mr. Currie asked staff if they know if Mr. Burkarth has a DEP permit.
Mrs. Graziani stated that the County cannot issue the permit without the DEP permit. She stated since staff
does not know if the DEP pen -nit is with the permit package she would recommend the Board give him the
120 days at this point we will continue and hopefully when we come back it will all be taken care of by
then.
Chairman Fogg asked Mrs. Graziani if she was asking for a continuation.
Mrs. Graziani asked Mrs. Barbieri, Assistant County Attorney if we could continue and stated to Chairman
Fogg that yes staff is asking for a continuation.
Mrs. Barbieri, Assistant County Attorney stated to the Board that she was just consulting with the Building
Official and the DEP approval is usually required to accept an application we just do not know anyone here
with personal knowledge that has looked at it, so hopefully it is in the application.
Mr. Taylor made a motion in reference to Case #74339 that the Code Enforcement Board continues
this case to the Code Enforcement Board meeting on June 4, 2014.
Mr. Murdock seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
Case #75077 Location of violation, 4708 Palmetto Dr., Ft. Pierce, FL, Property Owner, Fritzma and
Lanaise Valsaint. Fritzma Valsaint was sworn in by the Board's Secretary.
Officer Brubaker stated for the record I am submitting three (3) photos dated February 26, 2014, taken by
Officer Barrios. She stated during her first inspection on January 25, 2013, she found 4708 Palmetto Dr. in
violation of 11.05.01, as the shed in the back was built without a permit. She issued a letter and gave a
compliance date of February 27, 2013. She stated she has had contact with the owner and they discussed
the violation and ways to correct it and as of March 4, 2014 the property remains in violation. She noted the
owners are here to ask for more time.
Chairman Fogg as Mr. Valsaint if he is in violation and if he is what his plans are.
Mr. Valsaint answered that they are in violation. He stated that he has been on the road and could not help
the family much, but he is back in town for a little bit and has been looking up surveyors. He stated he has
one that is supposed to come out and do a survey, so he is asking for 120 days extension to obtain a permit
and if not they will remove it and pay the demolition fee.
Mr. Hofmann made a motion in reference to Case #75077 that the Code Enforcement Board makes
the following determination: After hearing the facts in this case, the testimony, and the
recommendations of staff with regard to the existence of a violation that we determine the violation
in fact did occur and the alleged violator committed the violation. An Order of Enforcement is
warranted. If the Order of Enforcement is not complied with by June 6, 2014, a fine of up to $250.00
per day may be imposed. A cost of $200.00 has been imposed as the cost for prosecuting this case.
Please take notice that on the 1St Wednesday of the month after the date given for compliance, at 9:00
am or soon thereafter, as may be heard, a Fine Hearing will be held if the violation is not abated by
the given compliance date.
Mr. Murdock seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
Case No. 78340, Location of violation, 221 Prima Vista Blvd., Port St. Lucie, FL, Property Owner, Curtiss
B. Woodruff III. Curtiss B. Woodruff III was sworn in by the Board's Secretary.
Officer Brubaker submitted four (4) photos dated October 10, 2013. She stated during her first inspection
on October 10, 2013 she found 221 Prima Vista Blvd. in violation of 11.05.01, for adding a bedroom,
enclosing a window, and adding a shower. She issued a letter and gave a compliance date of November 15,
2013. She stated she has had contact with the owner and they discussed the violation and ways to correct it
and as of March 4, 2014 the property remains in violation.
Chairman Fogg as Mr. Valsaint if he is in violation.
Mr. Woodruff answered he is in violation.
Chairman Fogg stated can you explain where we go from here.
Mr. Woodruff stated he is here to ask for a little more time and ask that the $200.00 fine that was imposed
be waived. He stated that he would like more time that it is difficult to save the money, get a contractor,
and an engineer, he stated he has called a couple of them and they are not returning his phone calls.
Chairman Fogg asked if he had made any attempt besides engineers to talk to staff about permitting and
such as that.
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Mr. Woodruff answered that he has spoken to Officer Brubaker a few times.
Chairman Fogg stated but you have not done anything about permit and moved forward.
Mr. Woodruff stated I have saved up the money and it is moving forward. He stated he had a contractor
over there a few days ago, but he is not returning my phone calls. He stated for some reason they want to
stay away from something with walls already up on the inside of the house, so he needs a little more time
so he can take care of it.
Chairman Fogg informed Mr. Woodruff that he needs to move quickly on this and if he gets with staff they
might be able to help him out and guide him.
There was discussion among the Board members on the situation and how much time Mr. Woodruff would
need to get a contractor and permit issued.
Mr. Hofmann made a motion in reference to Case #78340 that the Code Enforcement Board makes
the following determination: After hearing the facts in this case, the testimony, and the
recommendations of staff with regard to the existence of a violation that we determine the violation
in fact did occur and the alleged violator committed the violation. An Order of Enforcement is
warranted. If the Order of Enforcement is not complied with by June 6, 2014, a fine of up to $250.00
per day may be imposed. A cost of $200.00 has been imposed as the cost for prosecuting this case.
Please take notice that on the Vt Wednesday of the month after the date given for compliance, at 9:00
am or soon thereafter, as may be heard, a Fine Hearing will be held if the violation is not abated by
the given compliance date.
Mr. Currie asked when the prosecution cost is supposed to be paid, now or when everything is finished.
Mrs. Barbieri, Assistant County Attorney answered that it is accessed now and we do request it now.
Mr. Taylor seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
Case No. 78476, Location of violation, 7603 Deer Park Ave., Ft. Pierce, FL, Property Owner, Anastasios
and George Provatas. Anastasios Provatas was sworn in by the Board's Secretary,
Officer Swartzel for the record I am submitting two (2) photos, one (1) dated February 24, 2014, and one
(1) dated March 3, 2014. She stated during her first inspection on October 16, 2013, she found 7603 Deer
Part-, Ave. to be in violation of 11.05.06, Vegetation Permit Required, to obtaiii an after the fact Vegetation
Removal Permit for removing native and exotic vegetation without a permit. She issued a letter and gave a
compliance date of November 16, 2013. She stated my Supervisor Danielle Williams and I have spoken to
the property owner and discussed ways to correct the violation. She stated after receiving no compliance
she issued a Notice to Appear for the March Code Board. She stated as of March 4, 2014, this property still
remains in violation.
Chairman Fogg as Mr. Provatas if he is in violation.
Mr. Provatas addressed the Board and stated he agrees the property is in violation. Mr. Provatas stated the
neighbor abutting the property removed the shrubbery without his permission and said the Board was made
aware of that. He stated Code Enforcement was made aware of this by another neighbor that reported it to
them. He stated that the neighbor at 5204 Ft. Pierce removed the vegetation without his permission. He
stated he lives in Connecticut and this guy went in and cut my lot.
Mr. Hoffman asked Mr. Provatas if he filed a police report on this.
Mr. Provatas stated he did not as he did not know about it until the Board called him.
Chairman Fogg asked how long ago this was done.
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Officer Swartzel answered in October 2013.
Mr. Currie stated he had a couple of questions and said he sees there are some representatives from ERD
present today and he assumes it is for this project.
Mrs. Griffin from ERD answered that is correct.
Mr. Currie asked Mrs. Griffin if it was the saw palmetto that was cut down, as it looks like the native trees
are still standing.
Mrs. Griffin stated she does not know exactly what was cut down as there was no debris left. She stated
what her staff person that did go out reported to her was that it appeared to be some native and some exotic
removed. She stated they did not have confirmation on what was cut down as there were no branches left
and from what Mr. Balcer could tell from the stumps and what was left there was some were native plants.
She stated we have sympathy in this situation, but we have to cite the property owner, although his
neighbor did go in and remove the vegetation allegedly.
Mr. Currie asked Mrs. Griffin what the cost of an after the fact permit would be.
Mrs. Griffin answered one hundred and five dollars ($105.00).
Mr. Currie asked Mrs. Griffin if Mr. Provatas obtained the permit and staff went out what would be the
process.
Mrs. Griffin stated what staff had found out was that the all the vegetation that was removed the exotic and
vegetative would have qualified for an exemption from mitigation. She stated that all that would be
required at this point would be the after the fact permit to close the case out.
Mr. Currie stated so one hundred and five dollars ($105.00).
Mrs. Griffin answered in the affirmative with no additional planting or mitigation required.
Mr. Currie stated he is assuming the property owner does not want to pay the one hundred and five dollars
($105.00).
Mr. Provatas answered I paid one thousand dollars ($1000.00) to get here. He stated it is kind of the
principle of the thing, he committed criminal mischief to my property, so how is he held liable for the
criminal mischief that a third party committed. He stated he is a police officer and he does not understand
that.
Chairman Fogg stated but you are the property owner.
Mr. Provatas stated I understand that. He stated he pays taxes and the County has a responsibility to protect
my property.
Chairman Fogg stated you are saying the County has a responsibility.
Mr. Provatas stated absolutely, if I see criminal mischief.
Chairman Fogg asked Mr. Provatas, did you report it.
Mr. Provatas answered no I did not.
Chairman Fogg told Mr. Provatas then report it.
Mr. Provatas stated I will report it, but do I arrest that neighbor.
Chairman Fogg stated we do not get into that, we are here as a Board to tell whether it is in violation or not.
He stated we are hying to make it as easy as we can, so what we can do here give you thirty to sixty days to
decide what you are going to do, as we just found out here for one hundred and five dollars ($105.00) you
can mitigate the whole thing and it will done and over with. He informed Mr. Provatas that he can choose
to go that way or choose to go the other way, but the Board is going to give him the opportunity to choose.
He further stated he is looking for a motion.
Mr. Currie made a motion in reference to Case #78476 that the Code Enforcement Board makes the
following determination: After hearing the facts in this case, the testimony, and the recommendations
of staff with regard to the existence of a violation that we determine the violation in fact did occur
and the alleged violator committed the violation. An Order of Enforcement is warranted. If the
Order of Enforcement is not complied with by May 7, 2014, a fine of up to $250.00 per day may be
imposed. A prosecution cost was not imposed. Please take notice that on the 15` Wednesday of the
month after the date given for compliance, at 9:00 am or soon thereafter, as may be heard, a Fine
Hearing will be held if the violation is not abated by the given compliance date.
Mr. Hofmann seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
Chairman Fogg informed Mr. Provatas we have waived the two hundred dollar ($200.00) prosecution fee,
there is a one hundred and five dollars ($105.00) permit fee if you choose to pay that.
Mr. Provatas stated I will pay that, but could you make a correction in your notes that he is not in violation.
Chairman Fogg answered we cannot do that.
Mr. Currie informed Mr. Provatas that it will be reflected in the minutes as he has stated, but he is the
property owner and the burden of the violation falls on you.
Mr. Campion informed Mr. Provatas that the motion just states the existence of a violation.
Chairman Fogg said to Mr. Provatas thank you for coming and the Board is sorry he had to go through this.
Case No. 76800, Location of violation, 101 El Mar Dr., Jensen Beach, FL, Property Owner, Bruce Platzek.
Mr. Roy T. Mildner, Attorney for Mr. Platzek was present to represent him.
Officer Vargas Barrios stated for the record, I am submitting eight (8) photos, two (2) dated June 11, 2013,
two (2) dated September 9, 2013, two (2) dated February 21, 2014 and two (2) dated March 4, 2014. She
stated on August 27, 2013, a Notice of Violation was sent to Mr. Platzek the property owner of 101 El Mar
Dr. to please cut the tree branches that are overgrowing onto the road. She stated this is in violation of the
St. Lucie Land Development Code, 1-9-32 (D), Prohibited Acts. She further stated this section was abated
on September 9, 2013. She noted the Notice also included Section 3.01.03(AA), HIRD - Hutchinson Island
Residential District, to please contact the Permitting Department, as the single family dwelling was
converted into a multi -family dwelling without proper permits with a correction date of September 30,
2013. She stated staff has met with the attorney representing the homeowner regarding the violations and
explained what is needed to bring the property into compliance. She stated on February 21, 2014, a Notice
to Appear for the Code Board was sent and the property was posted. She stated that on March 3, 2014, the
permit was applied for and is now pending. She stated staff has been working on this case for five (5)
months and after getting no compliance staff has brought this case before the Code Enforcement Board.
Mr. Mildner addressed the Board and stated the property is in violation. He stated unfortunately when Mr.
Platzek bought it in 2005 as you can see from the tax assessor's map it is as constructed, it just was not
permitted as a duplex. He stated this is a duplex neighborhood, and this structure is a four (4) bedroom
three (3) bath, two (2) bedrooms down and two (2) up with two (2) baths upstairs. He stated if you look at
the square footage and living area on the ls` floor, even he thought when he saw it that it had been done
without a permit, but it is actually what was permitted in 2001. He stated this is basically his fault, when he
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this started back in August, he has been representing Dr. Platzek for twenty-eight (28) years and he is a
good client and personal friend, he contacted Mike Menard, got plans and spent a lot of money. He stated
unfortunately during the fall he had some issues, he was suspended for ninety (90) days and came back in
December 23, so that put him out of the loop, he thought things were happening but he discovered they had
not. He stated he then jumped back on board, after they got the plans, the contractor, helped the contractor
get registered and get his insurance, so there has been a lot of running around.
Chairman Fogg stated so what you really need is some time.
Mr. Mildner answered in the affirmative, that this is basically an after the fact permit, he believes the
zoning is for a duplex, as there are so many duplexes in the area.
Mr. Taylor made a motion in reference to Case #76800 that the Code Enforcement Board makes the
following determination: After hearing the facts in this case, the testimony, and the recommendations
of staff with regard to the existence of a violation that we determine the violation in fact did occur
and the alleged violator committed the violation. An Order of Enforcement is warranted. If the
Order of Enforcement is not complied with by July 2, 2014, a fine of up to $250.00 per day may be
imposed. A cost of $200.00 has been imposed as the cost for prosecuting this case. Please take notice
that on the 1st Wednesday of the month after the date given for compliance, at 9:00 am or soon
thereafter, as may be heard, a Fine Hearing will be held if the violation is not abated by the given
compliance date.
Mr. Murdock seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
Default Cases:
The Hall was sounded and Mr. Hofmann read the name and number of the case of those not present
into the record:
Case No.
Location of Violation
Property Owner/ContractorNiolator
78041
5490 Melville Rd, Ft. Pierce
Jason F. and Stephanie M. Denney
78342
189 SE Solaz Ave., Port St. Lucie
Michael T. Foster Jr.
78819
161 Celestia Ct., Port St. Lucie
Michael Montanaro
79380
5701 Citrus Ave., Ft. Pierce
Deutsche Bank National TR CO (TR)
78694
2685 — 2691 Niagara Ave., Ft. Pierce
C and S Realty Grp LLLP (TR)
79050
7703 Pensacola Rd., Ft. Pierce
Paul L. and Wanda V. Benson
78784
173 Imperial Way, Ft. Pierce
Robert D. Osteen Jr.
78921
6708 Pensacola Rd., Ft. Pierce
Lak Kalra
78298
5807 Killarney Ave., Ft. Pierce
Suzanne J. Lewis and Stephen W. Thiel
79146
2358 Brocksmith Rd., Ft. Pierce
Primitivo Martinez
Mr. Taylor made a motion in reference to the cases read into the record that the Code Enforcement
Board enter an Order of Finding against the violator finding the violator in default and if the violator
does not appear to contest the violations against him/her that the Board adopt the recommendation
of staff as set forth on the agenda.
Mr. Campion seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
IX. FINE HEARING:
Case No. 75127, Location of violation, 21220 Glades Cut -Off Rd., Ft. Pierce, FL, Property Owner, Sandra
L Brown. Sandra L. Brown was sworn in by the Board's Secretary.
Officer Brubaker stated this case was found in violation at the November 2013 Code Board and was given
until February 10, 2014 to come into compliance. She stated for the record I am resubmitting three (3)
photos, two (2) dated February 8, 2013, one (1) dated October 9, 2013 and submitting two (2) photos dated
March 4, 2014. She stated during her fast inspection on 21220 Glades Cut Off, she found it to be in
violation of 11.05.01 (A) 2, as the permit # 0707-0163 for the home being built has expired and needs to be
reactivated, and 1-9-19, for the concrete piles. She issued a letter and gave a compliance date of March 11,
2013. She has had contact with the owner and we discussed the violations and ways to correct them. She
noted as of March 4, the property still remains in violation.
Chairman Fogg stated it looks like the concrete piles have been removed, but permit is still expired.
Officer Brubaker stated the concrete piles have gone down significantly, but there is still a small pile out
there.
Chairman Fogg asked Mrs. Brown to tell the Board what is going on here.
Mrs. Brown stated that big lump out in the back is a fifteen (15) pound roll of hay covered with a tarp, that
is not concrete. She stated the concrete that is in fiont of it is because she is bringing in another roll of hay
and she is moving it forward to set the hay on. She stated the permit she cannot activate because she does
not have the eight hundred and thirty one ($831.00) bucks required to activate it. She stated she is hoping
to get a part-time job soon and then she may have it.
Chairman Fogg asked Mrs. Brown if she normally works.
Mrs. Brown answered she has not worked since 2011 and if she gets a job now it will cut into her social
security which she lives on and it is not much. She stated she spent her thirty -on ($31.00) dollars this
month on groceries already.
Chairman Fogg informed Mrs. Brown that she has a situation here that has to be rectified.
Mrs. Brown answered that as soon as she can she will get that, because she would like to get the damn
thing going to.
Chairman Fogg stated you are leaving it up to the Board's digression to make a date in time when this has
to be done so you do not get fined. He stated the Board is not here to fine you, we are here to help you, but
you have to try. He stated you look at us like we are not hying to help you and we are trying to do the best
we can. He asked staff if this has been going on since October 2013.
Officer Brubaker answered a year ago, since February 2013.
Mrs. Brown stated you are right, I do not think you are trying to help me. She stated that the permit has
been going on since 2009. She stated the only reason it is a subject right now is somebody called about the
concrete.
Chairman Fogg stated if it has been going on since 2009, it obviously is not a priority on your list, because
you were working back then.
Mrs. Brown stated her work was coming to an end, three family members died, and she did not have time
to be at work.
Mr. Currie stated this has got to be happen all over the county, where people stop building and the permits
expire. He asked staff what if they board up the structure and get some sort of close-out and state they will
come back to it later when we have money. He asked staff if this is the only case where this has happened,
Mr. Peterson, Building Official, answered we have had several cases in the county and they have come
before the Board. He stated if they are open, we do ask them to board them up.
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Mr. Currie stated there must be a process for this where they state they are going to board it up and put this
on pause for a couple of years, are you telling me there is not.
Mr. Peterson, Building Official, answered we can renew the permit at any time.
Chairman Fogg asked what it cost to renew the permit.
Mr. Peterson, Building Official, answered he believes this one was around eight hundred dollars.
Mrs. Brown stated eight hundred and thirty one ($831.00).
Chairman Fogg stated so she does not have the eight hundred and thirty one ($831.00) to do this, so where
do we go from here in your eyes.
Mrs. Brown stated a part-time job.
Chairman Fogg stated ma'am please, staff is speaking and we are trying to help you, if you would just
listen.
Mrs. Brown stated well.
Mr. Currie stated he thinks there should be a less expensive way to make the structure safe and let her go
about her business. He stated the way the process is going, she is going to start getting fined, which does
not make sense when she cannot get the permit issued. He stated he is asking if there is another process
even if it is something we have not done before.
Mr. Peterson, Building Official, answered we would have to look into it. He stated the Building Code
states it expires after one hundred and eighty (180) days then it is turned into a code case.
Chairman Fogg asked why the permit fee is so high on this. He asked staff if that is standard.
Mr. Peterson, Building Official, answered there is a formula for figuring that and stated he could refigure it.
Mr. Currie asked how long it is good for when it is renewed.
Mr. Peterson, Building Official, answered it is only good for one hundred and eighty (180) days, unless she
has an approved inspection, if she gets an approved inspection, it is good for another one hundred and
eighty (180) days from that date.
Mr. Currie stated just so he is clear the only other option is to tear it down.
Mrs. Brown stated no.
Mr. Peterson, Building Official, answered in the negative.
Mrs. Graziani, Building and Code Manager, stated that the county is not going to make people tear down
these houses, we recognize through the hardships and the economy of several years has been very poor, we
do have a lot of these type of permits out there that have expired, and we basically went through and
cleaned house up to 2006. She stated I will not even begin to tell you how many permits there were that
had never been closed out or are expired she should say. She stated that in this case, when they are brought
to our attention we do bring them forward and try to work with the homeowner. She stated if they are still
unable financially to obtain a permit this Board has the ability to grant them additional time. She stated as
the Building Official stated once a permit is issued, it is valid for one hundred and eighty (180) days, one
inspection will keep that permit valid for another one hundred and eighty (180) days, the clock keeps going,
it just takes an inspection to keep it going. She stated the reason and the purpose that permits expire as she
is sure you are all aware is the codes do change, so staff is willing to work with the homeowner, in these
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cases we can go in and have them board them up, and they do not reside in them, so there is no public
safety issue that the county has to be worried about.
Chairman Fogg stated so if we were to table this particular issue for a period of time and revisit it at the end
of that time, when it comes back before us and see if there had been any movement one way or the other on
it, then that would be something that the Board could do.
Mrs. Graziani, Building and Code Manager, answered yes you could.
Mr. Currie said it states here the begin date is February 11, 2013 and asked staff if it is his understanding
that she has been being fined since February 11.
Mrs. Barbieri, Assistant County Attorney, informed the Board it would be whatever date they choose, but it
could be that date if they choose.
Mr. Currie asked what the cost is for an inspection.
Mrs. Graziani, Building and Code Manager, answered it is part of your permit charge, however if the
inspection fails there is a re -inspection fee and that is seventy-five ($75.00) dollars.
Mr. Campion stated he would like to see something change and asked if this should go to the Board of
County Commissioners.
Mrs. Graziani, Building and Code Manager, answered let staff evaluate and survey other jurisdictions to
see what they do. She stated she has worked in several municipalities and basically when a permit expires
this is the process.
Chairman Fogg stated we understand that it is an ongoing thing, and when they are building like they were
several years ago, and he is not singling this lady out, he stated this parcel of property has been here a long
time obviously, but it still needs to go through the process and how do we do that and said is this the
normal process is what he is asking.
Mrs. Graziani, Building and Code Manager, answered this is the normal process.
Chairman Fogg stated is there another process we can look at.
Mrs. Graziani, Building and Code Manager, stated it does not seem reasonable to fine her for not obtaining
her permit and continuing the work, but her option would be to tear it down or board it up. She stated she
always has the option to board up the home.
Mr. Currie stated but boarding up does not resolve the issue, just to make that clear.
Mrs. Graziani, Building and Code Manager, answered no it does not.
Mr. Currie stated he thinks the Board should continue this and have staff come back to the Board with
some sort of recommendation on how to handle cases like this in the future and unfortunately have Mrs.
Brown come back and hopefully we will have some kind of better resolution when she comes back. He
stated he would recommend continuation.
Mrs. Barbieri, Assistant County Attorney, stated staff is obviously not opposed to what Mr. Currie is
saying, we do just want to also point out that Mrs. Brown stated the permit was pulled in 2009 and it is five
(5) years old and the county does at some point need to have buildings finished, permits finished out for
safety or something to happen with structures so we do not have these half -done structures, so I am just
pointing out this is five (5) years old.
Chairman Fogg asked Mrs. Barbieri if she agrees and thinks this is something staff should look at.
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Mrs. Barbieri, Assistant County Attorney, answered in the affirmative and stated Mrs. Graziani has already
stated that staff will be looking into to this.
Mr. Currie stated not that he likes to argue, but that fining her today is not going to get the building finaled
out, so he would like to find a resolution to the problem and he thinks we have two (2) extremes here and
we need to be in the middle somehow.
Mrs. Barbieri, Assistant County Attorney, answered yes sir and we understand that, but we did not want the
impression left that this was just a year ago or something like that.
Chairman Fogg asked Mrs. Brown if she understands what we are trying to do.
Mrs. Brown answered she thinks she understands and she thinks it might have been 2010, which is when
her brother died. She stated the reason it expired in the fast place was that the roofer who was a jerk took
eight (8) months to put the roof on and when she called for inspection she was told it would cost eight
hundred and thirty one ($831.00) to get it inspected. She stated she does not know if she can take that jerk
to court but if she can she will.
Chairman Fogg stated to Mrs. Brown we are working on your side with you at this time and staff is going
to work on it not to necessarily to abate it but to look into it.
Mrs. Brown stated the house is not a danger to anyone, it is not corning down I can tell you that right now,
it is not going anywhere.
Chairman Fogg asked Mrs. Brown if she lives there.
Mrs. Brown answered I live in the camper that is there since 1998.
Chairman Fogg stated so you do not live in the facility.
Mrs. Brown answered no, but I have my horse feed and stuff in there.
Mr. Campion made a motion in reference to Case #75127 that the Code Enforcement Board
continues this case to the Code Enforcement Board meeting on July 2, 2014.
Ms. Currie seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
Case No. 75892 Location of violation, 4203 Metzger Rd., Ft. Pierce, FL, Property Owner, SP Recycling
Southeast LLC. Michael Findlay, representative for SP Recycling Southeast LLC was sworn in by the
Board's Secretary.
Mrs. Barbieri, Assistant County Attorney addressed the Board and stated staff is requesting a continuance
on this case as they have been cooperating with us, all the junk, trash and debris in the county right-of-way
has been abated. She stated the other item they are not able to abate at this time because they are working
with the county and we are going to what is called single stream recycling and there have been delays in
that unfortunately and we are not anticipating that it will be up and running until September, so they are not
going to be able to abate the rest of it until after the county's single stream recycling is up. She stated we
do have a County representative from Solid Waste and a representative from SP Recycling if you want
more information on this. She stated that Code staff has spoken to the neighbors and they are happy so we
are requesting a continuance until October at this time.
Chairman Fogg stated that they took the time to come and sit here this morning, so let us give them the
opportunity to come forward and be sworn in and speak if they so wish.
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Mr. Findlay, addressed the Board and stated he is the Area Operations Manager for SP Recycling. He said
as I stated before when I was here we have cleaned up everything you requested, the only thing that still
remains is that we are still having to store material outside in what is the parking area and code wanted us
to return that to a parking area. He stated when I talked to the County Solid Waste Manager, Justin, in
January and I told him we had to stop taking materials because we needed to turn the parking lot back into
parking, he stated he had nowhere to take this material and asked if I could continue processing it, which I
have done. He stated he was under the impression, when I told you last time that the County would have
their facility ready by December or January, but they have run into what all of run into he guessed, which is
bureaucracy, so I have continued and I am asking that the fine be waived and he will continue working with
the County in any way he can until they have their facility operational.
Chairman Fogg stated he thinks the Board would be good with a continuation.
Mr. Campion made a motion in reference to Case #75892 that the Code Enforcement Board
continues this case to the Code Enforcement Board meeting on October 1, 2014.
Mr. Taylor seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
X. REPEAT VIOLATION
None.
XI. REFERRAL TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
None.
XII. FINE REDUCTION HEARING
Case No. 76142, Location of violation, 7701 Belmont Ave., Ft. Pierce, FL, Property Owner, Bonnie Mock.
Fine Reduction requested by Mark Lashley. Mark Lashley and Joe Henroin were sworn in by the Board's
Secretary.
Mr. Lashley stated we bought this house and it has been an eyesore for a good many years, literally falling
down in many places. He stated they spent a lot of time and effort to clean this place up as you can see by
the pictures it looks like a brand new house.
Chairman Fogg stated we see you have taken care of the overgrown grass and weeds.
Mr. Lashley stated we have painted the house, put a new roof on it, and cleaned the pool which has clear
water now. He stated they have just finished painting the house and the deck, and rescreened.
Chairman Fogg asked staff if we have pictures of that.
Officer Williams answered not of the pool, just pictures of the front of the home, but it is taken care of.
Officer Swartzel informed the Board that she was out there yesterday and it is beautiful. She said they
were working in the back so she did not want to take pictures of that, but the pool is gorgeous.
Mr. Currie asked Mr. Lashley and Mr. Henroin if they are planning on living here or are they going to sell
it.
Mr. Lashley stated they originally bought it for investment, but Mr. Henroin is going to live there, the
house turned out real nice so he decided to live there.
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Chairman Fogg stated we have a staff recommendation here, but it is up to the Board. He stated the fine
was originally five thousand dollars ($5,000.00), with a prosecution cost of two hundred dollars ($200.00).
Mr. Currie made a motion in reference to Case #76142 that the Code Enforcement Board
makes the following determination: The fine of $5,000.00 imposed by the Board is hereby reduced to
the amount of zero. This reduction fine must be paid within zero days of the hearing or the fine will
revert back to original fine of $5000.00. The prosecution cost of $200.00 was not reduced.
Mr. Campion seconded the motion and the motion carried unanimously.
Case No. 66879, Location of violation, 395 Midway Rd., Ft. Pierce, FL, Property Owner, Karen F. Wilson.
Fine Reduction requested by Karen F. Wilson. Karen F. Wilson was sworn in by the Board's Secretary.
Ms. Wilson addressed the Board and stated she had renters in the house and they just brought in everything,
every time she turned around they would have something in front of the house and she would tell them to
get it out. She stated she finally got the people evicted, fixed the fence, and straightened everything up.
She stated her husband died and she got life estate for the property.
Officer Williams addressed the Board and stated if you have your package with the before pictures, you can
see how it looked before compliance.
Mr. Taylor made a motion in reference to Case #66879 that the Code Enforcement Board
makes the following determination: The fine of $5,000.00 imposed by the Board is hereby reduced to
the amount of zero. This reduced fine must be paid within zero days of this hearing date or it will
revert back to the original fine of $5.000.00. The prosecution cost of $200.00 is reduced to zero.
Mr. Murdock seconded the motion and the motion carried unanimously.
Case No. 74429 Location of violation, 6103 Spring Garden Pl., Ft. Pierce, FL, Property Owner, Anne M.
Hill. Fine Reduction requested by Douglas Hill. Douglas Hill was sworn in by the Board's Secretary.
Mr. Hill stated he is here to speak on behalf of his mother who is legally deaf. He stated he did not hear
about the condition of the property until December and as soon as he heard about it he contacted Lynn
Swartzel and Danielle Williams and told them he would take care of the property immediately, which he
did. He stated if you have pictures you will see it is now cleaned up.
Chairman Fogg asked Mr. Hill if his mother lives here.
Mr. Hill answered she has several houses in the area. He stated she currently resides with her sister now,
who is impaired and she tries to help her out.
Chairman Fogg asked Mr. Hill if this is a rental property.
Mr. Hill answered no it is just a home that she owns. He stated his mom has investment properties.
Chairman Fogg stated there is a home here, does anyone live in it.
Mr. Hill answered she stays there sometimes because it is adjacent to his brother's house and her sister's
house, so they all live right around each other.
Chairman Fogg asked Mr. Hill if all the pictures the Board is looking at are cleared up.
Mr. Hill answered yes sir, he was told it was in compliance.
Officer Swartzel addressed the Board and informed them that she has visited the property and everything is
in compliance.
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Chairman Fogg asked Officer Swartzel if it had been done quickly.
Officer Swartzel answered in the affirmative that right after we spoke to Mr. Hill he took care of it.
Mr. Hill stated within a matter of eight days he had it done. He sometimes you have to listen to what God
is telling and stated his mother suffered her first heart attack in December because she was out there trying
to take care of this herself with garden shears and he did not actually hear about until after her second heart
attack when she came home in the beginning of January. He stated she is very stubborn and thought she
was going to be able to take care of it herself, which he thought was totally ridiculous when he saw the
property.
Chairman Fogg asked Mr. Hill if he sees her often.
Mr. Hill answered yes as much as possible. He stated he lives in West Palm Beach and works in North
Palm Beach.
Chairman Fogg asked Mr. Hill if you live in West Palm Beach and see her often you must have seen the
condition of the property before it was cleaned up.
Mr. Hill answered no sir I did not and that is the truth. He stated he does not go to that house much
because she is not there much and when he goes to see her he goes to her sister's house because she is there
the majority of the time.
Chairman Fogg asked the Board if they had any questions and if not we are looking for a motion.
Mr. Murdock made a motion in reference to Case #74429 that the Code Enforcement Board
makes the following determination: The fine of $5,000.00 imposed by the Board is hereby reduced to
the amount of zero. This reduced fine must be paid within thirty days of this hearing or the fine will
revert back to the original fine of 5,000.00. The prosecution cost of $200.00 is reduced to zero.
Mr. Campion seconded the motion and the motion carried unanimously.
XIII. OTHER BUSINESS
None.
XIV. STAFF BUSINESS
None.
ADJOURN: There was no further business and the meeting was adjourned at 10:15 a.m.
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